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  On 06/08/2020 at 05:57, FarNorthernD said:

Haha Taylor Walker had a net contribution of negative 1.

 

So did Lever five minutes before half time. i kid you not.

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      On 06/08/2020 at 03:19, goodwindees said:

    AVB has been cleared of bone damage, however, that head clash early in the first quarter required 15 stitches above the eye on the same side as the cheekbone damage.  Unbelievably tough.

     

     

     

    Certainly won't miss then.

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    As regular posters might know i am partial to punt on the footy. 

    Whilst of course the odds do not always reflect the outcome they remain the most accurate predictor of outcomes. 

    So as dees fans how do we feel about the odds for the roos game, which at the time of writing have dees as raging favorites at $1.51 and the line at plus 10.5?

    By the by for te sake of comparison the line in the crows game was plus 14.5?

     
      On 06/08/2020 at 05:30, DeeSpencer said:

    Was he good? He didn’t win the ball back, he mostly just existed against Adelaide’s crappy forwards and got a few uncontested touches.

    AFL player ratings had him worst on ground for us.

    I don’t have any faith in Tomlinson as a key defender, it’s just not his go. Where as Oscar has done the job on Day and Mitch Lewis. When Oscar has the right match up and is running on top of the ground he looks and plays like a proper tall defender. I’d be proactive and put him back in rather than waiting for Tomlinson to fail. 

    The same player ratings which have Steven May in the bottom half of players on the ground, when he was arguably second best behind Oliver?

    Does the measure of a defender playing Tomlinson's role come from player rating points?

    You say you don't want to wait for Tomlinson to fail. That's fair, but unfortunately for OMac we're in the same boat. He hasn't done enough to warrant having the faith that he won't fail in the coming weeks any more so than Tomlinson.

    I wasn't in favour of dropping him for the Adelaide game, but I'd be more than comfortable backing Tomlinson in again vs North.

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      On 06/08/2020 at 06:49, binman said:

    As regular posters might know i am partial to punt on the footy. 

    Whilst of course the odds do not always reflect the outcome they remain the most accurate predictor of outcomes. 

    So as dees fans how do we feel about the odds for the roos game, which at the time of writing have dees as raging favorites at $1.51 and the line at plus 10.5?

    By the by for te sake of comparison the line in the crows game was plus 14.5?

    I'm a bit of a punter too.

    I reckon we are the harshest critics of the Demons.  Objectively, we are in better form: 3 wins from last five Vs 1 win from last 5. North have key players out, probably ~6 best 22 injured.

    We have more talent.

    but of course none of that means we will win!   but on a neutral ground, I'll back us

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      On 06/08/2020 at 00:21, big_red_fire_engine said:

    Should confidence in his calves stop him from putting his body on the line? There were a few one hand in efforts last night that a calf should not excuse.

    No, however the psychological barriers might.The bloke is trying to come back after serious injury interlaced with personal issues. The pressure on him would be immense.  I don’t tolerate soft players but believe Harley should be cut some slack given his history.

      On 05/08/2020 at 23:50, WERRIDEE said:

    Why T.Mac when we have Preuss?

    That’s if Preuss is not right to go. 

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    In: Pickett, Bedford, Rivers, Nev 

    Out: ANB, Bennell, AVB, Lockhart

     

    ANB - Suspended

    Bennell - Lack of physicality, aggression, no run, chase or tackling (soft?) 

    AVB - Injury

    Lockhart - looked a bit ginger in the towards the end of the game. He's had a few big knocks the past couple of weeks.

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      On 06/08/2020 at 07:07, titan_uranus said:

    The same player ratings which have Steven May in the bottom half of players on the ground, when he was arguably second best behind Oliver?

    Does the measure of a defender playing Tomlinson's role come from player rating points?

    You say you don't want to wait for Tomlinson to fail. That's fair, but unfortunately for OMac we're in the same boat. He hasn't done enough to warrant having the faith that he won't fail in the coming weeks any more so than Tomlinson.

    I wasn't in favour of dropping him for the Adelaide game, but I'd be more than comfortable backing Tomlinson in again vs North.

    May has been penalised harshly for his poor unforced turnovers in the first quarter and probably for not taking enough intercept marks. Take marks, don't turn the ball over and you get high scores as he did in a lot of the rest of the game.

    I think we set Oscar up to fail playing him on a short break and without a suitable opponent, not to mention the way the team played.

    They'll likely stick with Tomlinson so I hope I'm wrong. He does have a better tank and more experience to deal with the quick turnaround, but I could also see someone like big Majak getting hold of him and next week we're sitting back saying why didn't we just play a fresh and trained up Oscar who suits the match up.

      On 06/08/2020 at 07:40, Caligula's cohort said:

    In: Pickett, Bedford, Rivers, Nev 

    Out: ANB, Bennell, AVB, Lockhart

     

    ANB - Suspended

    Bennell - Lack of physicality, aggression, no run, chase or tackling (soft?) 

    AVB - Injury

    Lockhart - looked a bit ginger in the towards the end of the game. He's had a few big knocks the past couple of weeks.

    A bit harsh on Bennell, he is the finisher.


      On 06/08/2020 at 07:45, DeeSpencer said:

    May has been penalised harshly for his poor unforced turnovers in the first quarter and probably for not taking enough intercept marks.

    Not by the coaches.  Scored 6 in the AFLCA votes.  Split 4/2. 

    Thankfully the coaches don't look at Player Ratings or stats.  They look at Impact and playing their role.

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    I have it on reasonable authority that Gawn and Viney won't play this week due to injury.

    I also understand a couple of others are carrying injuries and may not get up in time.

    Take this with whatever grain of salt you'd like.

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      On 06/08/2020 at 23:04, titan_uranus said:

    I have it on reasonable authority that Gawn and Viney won't play this week due to injury.

    I also understand a couple of others are carrying injuries and may not get up in time.

    Take this with whatever grain of salt you'd like.

    Pity Chris Lamb still doesn't play for us. Then I could make a pithy comment about garlic salt being the one I like.

      On 06/08/2020 at 23:04, titan_uranus said:

    I have it on reasonable authority that Gawn and Viney won't play this week due to injury.

    I also understand a couple of others are carrying injuries and may not get up in time.

    Take this with whatever grain of salt you'd like.

    Is Viney injury serious?


      On 06/08/2020 at 23:04, titan_uranus said:

    I have it on reasonable authority that Gawn and Viney won't play this week due to injury.

    I also understand a couple of others are carrying injuries and may not get up in time.

    Take this with whatever grain of salt you'd like.

    Well we have had a great injury run so far so cant complain too much.  Hopefully they just miss this game.

    Viney out would mean Brayshaw will get unleashed in the midfield and he has momentum from last game.  More Harmes in the midfield too.

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    Apologies if I’ve missed it, is the team announced tonight or tomorrow?

    OUT: ANB, Jones, Tomlinson

    IN: Pickett, Hannan, O McDonald

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      On 06/08/2020 at 23:29, Dee Zephyr said:

    Apologies if I’ve missed it, is the team announced tonight or tomorrow?

    Tomorrow at 6.20pm. It's always the night before the game with these compressed fixture rounds.

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      On 06/08/2020 at 23:04, titan_uranus said:

    I have it on reasonable authority that Gawn and Viney won't play this week due to injury.

    I also understand a couple of others are carrying injuries and may not get up in time.

    Take this with whatever grain of salt you'd like.

     

      On 06/08/2020 at 23:09, dazzledavey36 said:

    Is Viney injury serious?

     

      On 06/08/2020 at 23:13, titan_uranus said:

    I don't know, sorry. I don't even know what the injury is.

    Viney took a pretty big hit to his strapped shoulder during the game and IMO played out the game hurt.

    Could be that possibly.


    Anyones guess this week with changes. There will be a fair few sore players. I noticed a lot more aggression with our attack and tackling especially this week. Luckily we have a bit of depth this year in these situations.

    Backs: Rivers, Jetta, Omac

    Mids: JJ and Preuss. Although would most likely be just changing the rotations. If no Viney say then more Brayshaw/Sparrow/Harmes in the middle.

    Forwards: Kozzy, Brown, Spargo, Hunt

    PLEASE don't persist with bringing Tmac in this week ?

      On 07/08/2020 at 00:12, Yung Blood said:

    Anyones guess this week with changes. There will be a fair few sore players. I noticed a lot more aggression with our attack and tackling especially this week. Luckily we have a bit of depth this year in these situations.

    Backs: Rivers, Jetta, Omac

    Mids: JJ and Preuss. Although would most likely be just changing the rotations. If no Viney say then more Brayshaw/Sparrow/Harmes in the middle.

    Forwards: Kozzy, Brown, Spargo, Hunt

    PLEASE don't persist with bringing Tmac in this week ?

    Agree - I think we need to manage a number of players this week.  The roos have more injuries and are also dealing with short breaks - I'd make as many changes as we can.

    I'd love to see JJ come in and spend more time in the middle with Sparrow Brayshaw and Harmes.

    After reading the HUN this morning I cannot see why we do not rest Gawn.

    if they don’t rest him I will do something serious like not watch the game.

    There MFC take that!

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    so, catastrophising...

    OUT: viney, gawn, avb, anb, lockhart (all injured, bar anb who will obviously be suspended)
    IN: hannan, preuss, jordon, pickett, jetta

    B: Jetta - May - Lever
    HB: Salem - Tomlinson - Hibberd
    C : Langdon - Petracca - Harmes
    HF: Melksham - Jackson - Bennell
    F: Fritsch - Weideman - Pickett
    Foll: Preuss - Oliver - Brayshaw
    I/c: Jones - Hannan - Jordon - Sparrow

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      On 06/08/2020 at 06:49, binman said:

    As regular posters might know i am partial to punt on the footy. 

    Whilst of course the odds do not always reflect the outcome they remain the most accurate predictor of outcomes. 

    So as dees fans how do we feel about the odds for the roos game, which at the time of writing have dees as raging favorites at $1.51 and the line at plus 10.5?

    By the by for te sake of comparison the line in the crows game was plus 14.5?

    Obviously the prices have not been framed by a Dees supporter I would have the betting at  even money. 
    I hope they are correct.


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