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NON MFC: Round 02

Diamond_Jim
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15 minutes ago, Deecisive said:

i find it interesting that Hawthorn is playing its first game in Geelong in something like 14 years. strange how we seem to play there every year and they don't.. i wonder how many other such anomalies apply where some clubs avoid Geelong, interstate trips, etc..

 

I believe the Bombers havent played at Geelong since 1993. Collingwood probably similar. The game has become about the money and these sort of things just go on without issue. Is what it is as they say. 

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    Let’s be honest if there was 100,000 people at the game last night it would have been great to watch, the atmosphere is what makes the game, without it is boring 

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    IMO it won't matter what the AFL do to change things. Coaches are so hell bent on trying to keep as much control over the game as they can. Coaches don't care if the game is good to watch, they are paid to win. I think for some of them, winning 1 to 0 would be seen as a big win defensively!. 

    Even last night with about 10 seconds to go and Collingwood had the ball, you could see the first thought was to not give up the ball and not lose the game as opposed to moving it quickly and try to win it. 

    Go back to only one coach, they won't be able to teach the players as well and defensive structures will break down, allowing for more scoring. It won't happen though. 

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    2 minutes ago, Age said:

    IMO it won't matter what the AFL do to change things. Coaches are so hell bent on trying to keep as much control over the game as they can. Coaches don't care if the game is good to watch, they are paid to win. I think for some of them, winning 1 to 0 would be seen as a big win defensively!. 

    Even last night with about 10 seconds to go and Collingwood had the ball, you could see the first thought was to not give up the ball and not lose the game as opposed to moving it quickly and try to win it. 

    Go back to only one coach, they won't be able to teach the players as well and defensive structures will break down, allowing for more scoring. It won't happen though. 

    abolish runners. 

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    Last night was a big let down for sure. 5 goals a piece from two of the best teams. No exciting goals, no big marks, no bursting through the middle of the field on a counter, no run down tackles. 
    it was like a game of under 10’s. following the ball around and no space. 
    hopefully some coaches come up with a plan to bring back the focus on attack over defence

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    6 minutes ago, Age said:

    IMO it won't matter what the AFL do to change things. Coaches are so hell bent on trying to keep as much control over the game as they can. Coaches don't care if the game is good to watch, they are paid to win. I think for some of them, winning 1 to 0 would be seen as a big win defensively!. 

     

    Spot on

    The answer is simple. And it is not reducing interchange any further - coaches will get around that too, probably by slowing the game down even further to allow players to rest on field.

    Use the coaches rather than try to reign them in.

    Incentivise scoring with premiership points. For example winning or losing teams teams getting to 100 points (or even 85) get one premiership point.

    Of course there are variable in terms of weather and possibly venues (eg in Tassie where it is often windy) but so what. It would largely even out over a season and luck always plays a'part in teams fortunes.

    The coaches will still be defensive but not nearly as much. They will look for ways to maximise the chances of winning but will look for opportunities to snag that extra point. Losing teams also still have an incentive to keep attacking and not put the cue in the rack to save energy for the next game.

    If nothing else it might stop one of the biggest blights in the game - teams with 3-4 goal lead shutting up shop with 10 minutes to go, chipping it around and playing in slo mo. God awful to watch

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    8 hours ago, BigFez said:

    A pink 'chewy on your boot' button?

    Also a 'he's been doing it all day button'.

    Brilliant...  Fake commentary noise.?  ?

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    Commentary was back to its boring best last night - Pendlebury - he just has so much time doesn’t he? Even brought up his basketball background and he’s been playing footy for 13 years!!

    any guesses for the most dull predictable line that will be repeated tonight?

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    At least the 16 mins made it faster for me to fast forward through the match 

    49 minutes ago, Age said:

    IMO it won't matter what the AFL do to change things. Coaches are so hell bent on trying to keep as much control over the game as they can. Coaches don't care if the game is good to watch, they are paid to win. I think for some of them, winning 1 to 0 would be seen as a big win defensively!. 

    Even last night with about 10 seconds to go and Collingwood had the ball, you could see the first thought was to not give up the ball and not lose the game as opposed to moving it quickly and try to win it. 

    Go back to only one coach, they won't be able to teach the players as well and defensive structures will break down, allowing for more scoring. It won't happen though. 

    They finally had clean possession of the ball, I'd be playing for the draw too. 

    The pies have lucked out in avoiding extra time these past 10 years! 

    Edited by John Demonic

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    Tigers played a fill in ruck and Grundy did not really influence the game despite dominating the hit outs.

    Does not bode well for Gawn tomorrow

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    6 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Tigers played a fill in ruck and Grundy did not really influence the game despite dominating the hit outs.

    Does not bode well for Gawn tomorrow

    Viable option. Ruckman are a dying breed who have little influence on matches. Grundy is overhyped to the moon. Wouldn’t have been in the top 15 players on the ground last night playing against a plodder in Soldo.

    For Gawn to have an impact on games he needs to flunk marks around the ground either intercepting across halfback or contested as a bailout up the ground. 

    We’ll likely see more makeshift ruckman used in future. If they nullify ruck contests then they’re an extra runner around the ground. 

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    Would like to think that Hawthorn v Geelong is watching 10th play 11.

    Maybe this strange season will give the Cats another year in the eight.

    Hell I'm sick of being so jealous

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    Hamish McLachlan "clear clarity"

    Jobe Watson "seeked"

    BT " a lessened width ground".... errr is that a narrower ground Brian?

    I don't regard myself as a pedant when it comes to the use (or misuse) of language,  but for crying out loud!

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    Further mangling by the commentators

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    What a surprise...Frost free kicked for holding!

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    Apologies if this has been covered, but can the players hear the canned crowd noise on the ground? TIA

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    3 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    love jab watson commentating about how to play down at kardinia park...he......never..........played............there.................

    Good lord, you’re right!

    Thats ridiculous for a man who played 220 games over 14 seasons.

     

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    4 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

    Someone tell me 

    Who does Chris Scott look like with the face fuzz?

    A [censored] [censored]. 

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    Bloody censor

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    Beginning to think this season might've been better cancelled completely. Hard to get excited over this rubbish

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