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  On 24/10/2019 at 06:11, Lucifer's Hero said:

Dr Dan Bates was the replacement for our '20 year experience' doctors who left in in 2011.  Dr Z  Dr Zeeshan Arain started in 2013 after Dr Bates resigned for involving MFC with the shady S Danks.

I'm not saying Dr Arain has or hasn't the required experience just noting that he did not replace the doctor(s) who left with Misson's arrival in 2011. 

At this stage we don't know what Dr Brunkner's role is or whether Dr Arain will stay with the club.  So it may be a bit early to say his appointment is a mistake. 

"Head Doctor Zee Arain and club doctor Laura Lallenec will remain at the Dees."

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      On 24/10/2019 at 01:59, dazzledavey36 said:

    Legit never heard of this bloke..

    But welcome Pete!

    this bloke along with Karim Khan literally wrote the book on sports Medicine! it's called 'sports medicine' and is tge bible for anyone in the industry. he also started the Olympic Park Sports medicine centre. is a God in the sports med world!!!

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      On 24/10/2019 at 05:50, TGR said:

    The handling of many players, from Viney's foot to Joel Smith's soft-tissues has been overtly appalling.  Sending players (May, Smith, Viney Shoulder) back on the park with soft-tissue injuries in games that have been decided or don't matter, defies logic.  In fact it is laughable.  For a so-called professional outfit, it was easy to see the amateur hour that reigned.

    The medicos who contributed to making those decisions (Zain and Lallenac) are still there, and in the same roles. Maybe the club and FD know a bit more than you about injuries and treatments.

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    Paying for salaries like Brukner and Burgess may point to why we said little about GCS getting the PP.

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      On 24/10/2019 at 07:19, A F said:

    Paying for salaries like Brukner and Burgess may point to why we said little about GCS getting the PP.

    Could also be why the coaching department has shrunk somewhat. Adding Brukner, Burgess and Richardson might have meant a tighter squeeze in the 'soft cap'.

     

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      On 24/10/2019 at 02:20, hemingway said:

    Set up Olympic Sports Medicine Centre at Olympic Park approx 30 years ago, the first dedicated multi-disciplined sports clinic for elite athletes and the weekend jogger. It was at the time, we first started to hear about Sports Medicine and doctors specializing in the field.

    A researcher and practitioner, he is a Professor at Lat Trobe Uni.

    At the same time, he was MFC doctor in the Northey years. Lots of photos of him with the team in those days, sitting on the bench etc. At the time, he was a professed Demon supporter.

    Was involved with other AFL team, Collingwood being one and also Sports doctor for Olympic teams such as hockey, Aussie Test team and other sports.  Also spent time in UK. Would be in his mid to late 60s, so has lots of experience. Not a bad thing. Also written text books on Sports Medicine and regarded as one of the doyens in the field.  There are mixed views in the field about him but this is not unusual in medicine with its petty jealousies and rivalries. 

    He has built a successful business so my guess is that he would not come cheap. With all his other interests, he would not be full-time but act more as consultant as needed. My guess. 

     

    Awesome write up @hemingway!

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    I've seen him in the MCC members in recent years with a Demons scarf on so he is a supporter as well!

    Edited by Northern Summer

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    It will be interesting to see the impact/role he has in the nutrition area. I believe he has been highly involved in that area, taking a very holistic approach to sports medicine. Burgess and he working together in the past augers well for this whole department to be a high functioning unit.

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      On 24/10/2019 at 07:13, bing181 said:

    The medicos who contributed to making those decisions (Zain and Lallenac) are still there, and in the same roles. Maybe the club and FD know a bit more than you about injuries and treatments.

     

     

    You can only hope.

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    #Humble brag 

    I once presented at a conference for international cricket (in a different discipline) in Sydney, he was the keynote, discussing fat vs sugar in the diet , particularly in the context of sport, before this conundrum has become media popular. Was an insightful monologue.

    He is well versed, clearly has a wealth of experience and history and I hope he brings forensic assessment to his role

    On a flippant side note...

    Perhaps JohGle (Josh Mahoney/Glenn Bartlett) have persuaded him to connect to his inner altruist, rather than capitalist for the love of the club.

    Perhaps there is ‘seduction in a fading power’...

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    I have met the guy and he is very impressive and a good communicator   

    I just wonder how the structure will turn out.  

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      On 24/10/2019 at 09:36, TGR said:

    You can only hope.

    Players will still get injured, and as with any medical condition, those injuries will not always respond to standard treatments in standard ways.

    Also, most of the treatment for the more serious and long-term injuries is managed off-site through specialists, with the club doctors only overseeing. It's the same for all clubs. Players are all basically seeing the same specialists.

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    One thing's for sure.

    You can't have enough capable people in an organisation.

    People with knowledge, skills and experience.  Brukner has those attributes.

    And I would probably throw in a dose of wisdom.

    He certainly brings years of experience dealing with players, administrators, coaches and fitness gurus. In short, people skills.

    He would also have a wealth of contacts from his years in the field and his academic role suggests that he will be up to date with latest research and injury management techniques around the world. With his own years of experience at the coal face of sporting clubs that is impressive.    

    My only doubt would be the question as to his level of involvement and how  much time he will have for the MFC. 

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      On 25/10/2019 at 00:18, hemingway said:

    One thing's for sure.

    You can't have enough capable people in an organisation.

    People with knowledge, skills and experience.  Brukner has those attributes.

    And I would probably throw in a dose of wisdom.

    He certainly brings years of experience dealing with players, administrators, coaches and fitness gurus. In short, people skills.

    He would also have a wealth of contacts from his years in the field and his academic role suggests that he will be up to date with latest research and injury management techniques around the world. With his own years of experience at the coal face of sporting clubs that is impressive.    

    My only doubt would be the question as to his level of involvement and how  much time he will have for the MFC. 

    Like you I think he is a great get.  Along with Burgess he will add some much needed credibility.  Clubs like Hawks, Tigers and more recently Lions have built their attractiveness on their ability to rehab players or minimize injuries. 

    My impression is that club doctors are part-time as they also work in private practices.  Sometimes they see players at those practices sometimes at the club.  I wouldn't be surprised if Dr Brukner's role is a bit hands off when it comes to player contact but heavily involved in the processes for injury diagnosis and management.   The club has shown faith in keeping at least two of the existing doctors so perhaps he will be involved in the more complex or chronic cases.

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      On 25/10/2019 at 00:30, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Like you I think he is a great get.  Along with Burgess he will add some much needed credibility.  Clubs like Hawks, Tigers and more recently Lions have built their attractiveness on their ability to rehab players or minimize injuries. 

    My impression is that club doctors are part-time as they also work in private practices.  Sometimes they see players at those practices sometimes at the club.  I wouldn't be surprised if Dr Brukner's role is a bit hands off when it comes to player contact but heavily involved in the processes for injury diagnosis and management.   The club has shown faith in keeping at least two of the existing doctors so perhaps he will be involved in the more complex or chronic cases.

    As usual Lucifer, spot on

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      On 24/10/2019 at 12:35, binman said:

    Yrs, but can he cure mfcss?

    Somethings  are beyond medical science even in the 21st century binman.

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      On 25/10/2019 at 00:30, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Like you I think he is a great get.  Along with Burgess he will add some much needed credibility.  Clubs like Hawks, Tigers and more recently Lions have built their attractiveness on their ability to rehab players or minimize injuries. 

    My impression is that club doctors are part-time as they also work in private practices.  Sometimes they see players at those practices sometimes at the club.  I wouldn't be surprised if Dr Brukner's role is a bit hands off when it comes to player contact but heavily involved in the processes for injury diagnosis and management.   The club has shown faith in keeping at least two of the existing doctors so perhaps he will be involved in the more complex or chronic cases.

    Yes I think it is an excellent appointment, he was very good in those Northey days

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      On 25/10/2019 at 00:18, hemingway said:

    One thing's for sure.

    You can't have enough capable people in an organisation.

    People with knowledge, skills and experience.  Brukner has those attributes.

    And I would probably throw in a dose of wisdom.

    He certainly brings years of experience dealing with players, administrators, coaches and fitness gurus. In short, people skills.

    He would also have a wealth of contacts from his years in the field and his academic role suggests that he will be up to date with latest research and injury management techniques around the world. With his own years of experience at the coal face of sporting clubs that is impressive.    

    My only doubt would be the question as to his level of involvement and how  much time he will have for the MFC. 

    Also, if you add a C to Brukner, it becomes Bruckner, one of my Gods as a composer. 

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      On 25/10/2019 at 09:57, dieter said:

    Also, if you add a C to Brukner, it becomes Bruckner, one of my Gods as a composer. 

    That's a capital C and that rhymes with P and that stands for Premiers!

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