PREGAME: Rd 11 vs Adelaide

[Engorged Onion 10,223]

28 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

was that about Petracca? or the lame gag?

Edited May 31, 2019 by Engorged Onion

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4 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Crows in Doubt

Pike says Lynch and others may be in doubt.  Could be just 'mind games'.

I reckon we can win this.  Tex might be like angry ant after last weeks embarrassing shirking of a contest but he isn't going to turn on a blinder; hasn't done so in years.  Harmes to Sloane.  Hore or Hibberd to Eddie.  Frost 'sacrifices' his game to run everywhere with Lynch, wear him like a glove to shut down his linking game.  They don't have a De Boer to shut down Oliver

Our midfield to finally hit its straps.

Go Dees!

Tex should've given away the captaincy after last year. reckon he's gone downhill ever since he was appointed.

[Demon3 2,541]

Really,  there a few that couldn't play as worse as they did last week, Oliver finds a way to bounce back after a bad game, and that was a bad game. Brayshaw is struggling, but if he can find a bit of form, it makes us better. I though Jack Viney was one of our best last week, his year has been about continuity.. he is starting to get that.

Hibberd, and Salem sure up defence and ball use, but most importantly Hannan moves around, he gets on his bike, he separates and opens up the fwd line.. that's what helps our usage going inside. Its no coincidence that without him our entries have been poor. 

Im not saying we win, but every role player we get back makes our other players better.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,249]

31 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

@Bitter but optimistic thinks he knows where the sun shines in Romsey...

I usually end up where it don’t shine Chazz

[ding 5,126]

Spargo still in makes me suspect we have stopped trying to win, while Hannan in with no demonstrated  form reeks of desperation.

Spargo = bad form = stays in

Hannan = No form = comes in

 

I have given up trying to understand our selections this year. The club has lost the plot and become more and more desperate, whilst the team has shown no signs of improvement. God what a cluster-[censored] of a season.

I picked a bad year to quit glue sniffing.

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

was that about Petracca? or the lame gag?

Could be applied to any comment that infers a glimmer of hope surrounding any player or the MFC itself this season EO.

A 'fits all' gif!

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1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

Does this mean all the players will have sandpaper inside their shorts,   bit hot n sweaty in Darwin for that i would have thought !

 

 

 

Go Dees !!

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4 minutes ago, 640MD said:

Does this mean all the players will have sandpaper inside their shorts,   bit hot n sweaty in Darwin for that i would have thought !

 

 

 

Go Dees !!

Would rather sandpaper than a cricket 64!

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On 5/30/2019 at 2:19 PM, At the break of Gawn said:

We've also won 3 of the last 4 games against the Crows to make you feel more optimistic.

Their best win was at home against Freo, other wins have all been against bottom 8 sides: an injury ravaged Port, Suns, Sydney and an injury ravaged St.Kilda. 

I'm still constipated but there's slight signs of movement.

We still have the most impotent playing forward line in comp - would love an improvement in set shots at least.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

Few Demons at Shenanigans in Mitchell st

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10 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

It usually takes this current regime a week later than the rank and file to work out an obvious selection.

Dunning-Kruger

[bing181 9,328]

10 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Next week they’ll select JFK and drop Spargo after his inevitable 4 possession game.

Spargo had 10 possessions last week. (To go with his 3 marks, 4 tackles and goal.)

To put that in context, Lockhart had 8, Hunt 7 and Garlett 6, all of whom had fewer tackles than Spargo, and except for Lockhart, fewer marks.

You see what you want to see.

[Little Goffy 14,645]

THE FINAL ROUND

Some may say that round 11 is the halfway point of the AFL Home and Away season. But if we lose on saturday evening, it is officially season over for the Demons. Anyone familiar with my posts will know I am the last person to write off a season, but, here it is, win now or bake cookies for the rest of winter.

Currently, bizarrely, Melbourne sits 'only' two games and a bucket of percentage (accumulated deficit of approximately 200 points) outside the 8. In a mad world, in a strange season, and with an incredible surge back to form, this is not impossible, starting with a solid win over the Crows.

However, lose to Adelaide and the maths changes dramatically and decisively.

St Kilda (5/5) plays Port Adelaide, ensuring that one of these teams will go 3 wins ahead of us. With the Crows win also putting them to 6/5, a loss for us this round puts us a plainly insurmountable 3 wins and large percentage behind the top 8, while also needing to out-perform 3 further teams that will finish this round on at least 5 wins.

On the other hand, beat the Crows and they stay vulnerable on 5 wins, and with Hawthorn facing a rejuvenated Brisbane in Brisbane, while Fremantle face Collingwood at the 'G, there is a genuine chance that the final spot in the 8 remains in the hands of a team on just 5 wins after 11 rounds.

There has never been a more '8 point game' this early in a season - if we take that slot, it will be because Adelaide lost it, at our hands, in round 11. With their coming games being against the Giants, Tigers and Cats, a loss to the Demons now will likely be the start of a downward spiral.

It is precisely what happend to Adelaide last year, so why now have it be the same this year?

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1 hour ago, bing181 said:

Spargo had 10 possessions last week. (To go with his 3 marks, 4 tackles and goal.)

To put that in context, Lockhart had 8, Hunt 7 and Garlett 6, all of whom had fewer tackles than Spargo, and except for Lockhart, fewer marks.

You see what you want to see.

I watched this closely on the replay, his tackle numbers were inflated by gang tackles and another instance where the opposition player was stationary.

He struggles to lay a good tackle one on one, and he gets exposed on this consistently.

I see what I see.

Apart from Hunt who seems to be our only lead up forward at the moment the others don't inspire either but it's hard to understand how Spargo came back into the team after being dropped and on no exposed form at Casey.

We are struggling for numbers is probably the answer...but it's not the answer for keeping his place.

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4 hours ago, ding said:

Spargo still in makes me suspect we have stopped trying to win, while Hannan in with no demonstrated  form reeks of desperation.

Spargo = bad form = stays in

Hannan = No form = comes in

 

 

Edited May 31, 2019 by DV8

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4 hours ago, ding said:

Spargo still in makes me suspect we have stopped trying to win, while Hannan in with no demonstrated  form reeks of desperation.

Spargo = bad form = stays in

Hannan = No form = comes in

 

I have given up trying to understand our selections this year. The club has lost the plot and become more and more desperate, whilst the team has shown no signs of improvement. God what a cluster-[censored] of a season.

I picked a bad year to quit glue sniffing.

 

 

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1 hour ago, bing181 said:

Spargo had 10 possessions last week. (To go with his 3 marks, 4 tackles and goal.)

To put that in context, Lockhart had 8, Hunt 7 and Garlett 6, all of whom had fewer tackles than Spargo, and except for Lockhart, fewer marks.

You see what you want to see.

 

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4 hours ago, Mydee said:

I agree if we were playing in France he would be known as L' espargot.

Well Iv'e had a few tonight and Spargo's selection still baffles me!

Must have some incriminating evidence on someone!!

Beggars Belief!!

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6 hours ago, ding said:

Spargo still in makes me suspect we have stopped trying to win, while Hannan in with no demonstrated  form reeks of desperation.

Spargo = bad form = stays in

Hannan = No form = comes in

 

I picked a bad year to quit glue sniffing.

 

 

Or injecting heroin into eyeballs outside MFC HQ with a crudely texta’d “help me Rhonda” sign on cardboard on the chest 

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On 5/30/2019 at 9:35 PM, John Demonic said:

40 goals for the past 5 seasons before this year, and all people can say about him his 'he only gets joe the goose goals". One of the top 5 most under-rated AFL players.

He's a dead set spud.

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4 hours ago, bing181 said:

Spargo had 10 possessions last week. (To go with his 3 marks, 4 tackles and goal.)

Good on the young lad. Very impressive stats...

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,882]

12 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

THE FINAL ROUND

Some may say that round 11 is the halfway point of the AFL Home and Away season. But if we lose on saturday evening, it is officially season over for the Demons. Anyone familiar with my posts will know I am the last person to write off a season, but, here it is, win now or bake cookies for the rest of winter.

Currently, bizarrely, Melbourne sits 'only' two games and a bucket of percentage (accumulated deficit of approximately 200 points) outside the 8. In a mad world, in a strange season, and with an incredible surge back to form, this is not impossible, starting with a solid win over the Crows.

However, lose to Adelaide and the maths changes dramatically and decisively.

St Kilda (5/5) plays Port Adelaide, ensuring that one of these teams will go 3 wins ahead of us. With the Crows win also putting them to 6/5, a loss for us this round puts us a plainly insurmountable 3 wins and large percentage behind the top 8, while also needing to out-perform 3 further teams that will finish this round on at least 5 wins.

On the other hand, beat the Crows and they stay vulnerable on 5 wins, and with Hawthorn facing a rejuvenated Brisbane in Brisbane, while Fremantle face Collingwood at the 'G, there is a genuine chance that the final spot in the 8 remains in the hands of a team on just 5 wins after 11 rounds.

There has never been a more '8 point game' this early in a season - if we take that slot, it will be because Adelaide lost it, at our hands, in round 11. With their coming games being against the Giants, Tigers and Cats, a loss to the Demons now will likely be the start of a downward spiral.

It is precisely what happend to Adelaide last year, so why now have it be the same this year?

I like the positivity and never say die Goofy.  I'm just about at the point of thinking what can we salvage from this season.  If we win tonight, then perhaps I'll keep a small glimmer of hope alive as well, but we would need to not only win, but win in a convincing manner that not only got us the four points, but gave us something to work with going forward as well.  Just clumsily falling over the line in an error riddled game like most of our previous wins this year wouldn't do it for me. 

Even though we lost the game against the eagles, I thought our form had turned the corner, but then last week showed that just to be a mirage.  Really hoping for any sort of win tonight as it sure beats loosing, but right now my expectations are not high.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,882]

16 hours ago, Demon3 said:

Really,  there a few that couldn't play as worse as they did last week, Oliver finds a way to bounce back after a bad game, and that was a bad game. Brayshaw is struggling, but if he can find a bit of form, it makes us better. I though Jack Viney was one of our best last week, his year has been about continuity.. he is starting to get that.

Hibberd, and Salem sure up defence and ball use, but most importantly Hannan moves around, he gets on his bike, he separates and opens up the fwd line.. that's what helps our usage going inside. Its no coincidence that without him our entries have been poor. 

Im not saying we win, but every role player we get back makes our other players better.

Really looking forward to seeing what difference Hannan can make.  Many here have sighted a lack of demonstrated from from Hannan, but I bet many would be happy to see Steven May back in next week simply on the proviso he gets through the game.  Watching us this year I think we are missing many of the qualities that Hannan brings as a footballer:

1.  Cumbing ability;

2.  Good goal nous and the ability to pull out a goal from nowhere;

3.  Marking ability, both on the lead and in a pack;

4.  The ability to finds space and turn his opponent inside out on the flanks and then deliver quality inside 50 passes as you suggest.

Put al this together and Hannan makes a 5, maybe 6 - 7 goal difference to our side and we win the last two games.

 

Salem and Hibbard back to our defense brings it back from being a C grade to a C+ or perhaps B grade as well, so very happy with those inclusions.

 

Carn the Might Demons - we can doo this!

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We seem to come up against sides that are reasonably close to full strength while we are still losing players each week to injury.

For example,  would we have beaten the Bombers without Shiel, Smith and Stringer, their best 3 against us?

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12 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Really looking forward to seeing what difference Hannan can make.  Many here have sighted a lack of demonstrated from from Hannan, but I bet many would be happy to see Steven May back in next week simply on the proviso he gets through the game.  Watching us this year I think we are missing many of the qualities that Hannan brings as a footballer:

1.  Cumbing ability;

2.  Good goal nous and the ability to pull out a goal from nowhere;

3.  Marking ability, both on the lead and in a pack;

4.  The ability to finds space and turn his opponent inside out on the flanks and then deliver quality inside 50 passes as you suggest.

Put al this together and Hannan makes a 5, maybe 6 - 7 goal difference to our side and we win the last two games.

 

Salem and Hibbard back to our defense brings it back from being a C grade to a C+ or perhaps B grade as well, so very happy with those inclusions.

 

Carn the Might Demons - we can doo this!

The only knock on Hannah is his set shot routine he needs 2 slow it down & keep it simple. Otherwise I like him he gives us that x factor in the forward half.

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19 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

The only knock on Hannah is his set shot routine he needs 2 slow it down & keep it simple. Otherwise I like him he gives us that x factor in the forward half.

I've always thought his set shots goal kicking was ok, but your points might be quite valid.

Certainly what I would say is that compared to what we have had so far this season from many of his MFC peers, his goal kicking reliability makes him look like Locket or Dunstal by comparison.