phuket demon 79 Posted April 14, 2019 Posted April 14, 2019 Every time I watch him play, even non dee games, he is an absolute gun. I have no idea why he was dropped for the best part of a season, but he always seems to kill it. Whats the knock on him? Would be a massive upgrade on Oscar. Won't happen I know. 3 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,333 Posted April 14, 2019 Posted April 14, 2019 I am a fan as well. Peels off and intercepts well. Exact kind of player we need. He is a joy to watch. 2 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,675 Posted April 14, 2019 Posted April 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, phuket demon said: Every time I watch him play, even non dee games, he is an absolute gun. I have no idea why he was dropped for the best part of a season, but he always seems to kill it. Whats the knock on him? Would be a massive upgrade on Oscar. Won't happen I know. Had a few really good games to start his career, then got a bit ahead of himself and was ad libbing too much for the Swans liking and butchering the ball. Killed us last year when allowed to play as an intercepting half back but being stuck on Preuss deep and providing little intercepting or attacking drive largely took him out of the game. The Swans should've trusted young McCartin deep or flipped Ried to full back and McCartin forward and got Aliir up the ground, but Longmire isn't very creative. If we get May and Lever fit we will be well served for intercepting tall defenders, we just need a 3rd guy who can do a shut down job. Quote
Bay Riffin 1,518 Posted April 14, 2019 Posted April 14, 2019 hes a fairly good intercept mark but poor kick. I think he is overrated but AFL worthy nonetheless. 1 Quote
junk 342 Posted April 14, 2019 Posted April 14, 2019 Alir Alir is a good average player, he is not Lever at his best. O'Mac has some good matches and some bad matches for us. We have a lot of inconsistent players in the side at the moment. Can we afford to keep Jones and Lewis in the same side?. I have a feeling that O'Mac will get used up the opposite end of the game sooner than expected. Quote
olisik 4,060 Posted April 14, 2019 Posted April 14, 2019 Yes for me. Manages to stay on the park which is something which can’t be said for other defenders of ours. Quote
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted April 14, 2019 Posted April 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, ENYAW said: I have a feeling that O'Mac will get used up the opposite end of the game sooner than expected. In the stands selling pies and drinks? 4 1 Quote
Storm Boy 376 Posted April 14, 2019 Posted April 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: In the stands selling pies and drinks? We are all waiting patiently for Lever and May to come into the side Quote
FireInTheBennelly 4,104 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 He has a nice haircut, looks awesome Quote
Wunders 397 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Think it's too late now. If we had of gone for him instead of a may then sure. But with May and Lever to come in can't see us going for him. Woul've been keen last year though (similar for darcy moore). Quote
phuket demon 79 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Posted April 15, 2019 Yeah I am not saying that we will or should recruit him, i am just thinking that he is criminally Underrated. 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Allir is a gun. His run and carry, athleticism, strength and spoils are above and beyond what Omcd brings. Potentially Frosty serves this raw athlete back role in our team. 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said: Allir is a gun. His run and carry, athleticism, strength and spoils are above and beyond what Omcd brings. Potentially Frosty serves this raw athlete back role in our team. Some players are just fun to watch. Allir, Tipu etc. Quote
Nasher 33,686 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 0 instances of spelling his name correctly in this thread so far. Edit: sorry 1 - apologies to DeeSpencer Quote
Sydee 4,684 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Assuming May and Lever can consistently get on the park and play some solid footy I'd sooner target quality skillful outside runners Quote
sisso 2,627 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Haven't we recruited enough defenders for now how about some forwards! Quote
dieter 3,325 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, sisso said: Haven't we recruited enough defenders for now how about some forwards! Most of our recruited defenders are injured... Quote
sisso 2,627 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, dieter said: Most of our recruited defenders are injured... I know but seriously it feels like our whole list is intercept defenders and inside mids + Max sometimes Quote
DV8 2,271 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, Nasher said: 0 instances of spelling his name correctly in this thread so far. Edit: sorry 1 - apologies to DeeSpencer You should have joined the police force Nashr. a natural. Quote
M_9 2,216 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Nasher said: 0 instances of spelling his name correctly in this thread so far. Edit: sorry 1 - apologies to DeeSpencer Nickname is Shand. Maybe use that. Quote
grazman 7,539 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, phuket demon said: Every time I watch him play, even non dee games, he is an absolute gun. I have no idea why he was dropped for the best part of a season, but he always seems to kill it. Whats the knock on him? Would be a massive upgrade on Oscar. Won't happen I know. I was at the game in Sydney, so I had a front row seat, so to speak, about why. He certainly has assets: tall, athletic and quick..., but he torches the ball. In years gone past I remember when opposition sides were happy to sit off certain players to allow high possession numbers in the back half because they'd always turn it back over. He's in the same boat. I actually wanted him to get the ball because he would either a) dispose of it poorly leading to a turn over, b) sell a team mate into trouble leading to a turnover or c) would take off like a headless chook without considering who to give it to next. I'm not sure what his DE% is, but i'd be surprised if it was higher than about 34%. Also for a bloke his size I actually reckon (like a lot of defenders now) he has very little idea about when to mark and when to spoil. Edited April 15, 2019 by grazman Quote
Nasher 33,686 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 3 hours ago, grazman said: I was at the game in Sydney, so I had a front row seat, so to speak, about why. He certainly has assets: tall, athletic and quick..., but he torches the ball. In years gone past I remember when opposition sides were happy to sit off certain players to allow high possession numbers in the back half because they'd always turn it back over. He's in the same boat. I actually wanted him to get the ball because he would either a) dispose of it poorly leading to a turn over, b) sell a team mate into trouble leading to a turnover or c) would take off like a headless chook without considering who to give it to next. I'm not sure what his DE% is, but i'd be surprised if it was higher than about 34%. Also for a bloke his size I actually reckon (like a lot of defenders now) he has very little idea about when to mark and when to spoil. So he’s Sam Frost? 1 Quote
Singa 226 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 I'd take him in a heartbeat but sadly we can't afford to give up more first round draft picks. Quote
ProperDee 1,698 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Former Aspley Hornets (Qld) player as are the Wagners and Oskar Baker. Couple of knocks on him are a tendency to have tunnel vision, not great foot skills and attention seeker/party animal (apparently). Quote
Demon Dynasty 17,165 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, grazman said: I was at the game in Sydney, so I had a front row seat, so to speak, about why. He certainly has assets: tall, athletic and quick..., but he torches the ball. In years gone past I remember when opposition sides were happy to sit off certain players to allow high possession numbers in the back half because they'd always turn it back over. He's in the same boat. I actually wanted him to get the ball because he would either a) dispose of it poorly leading to a turn over, b) sell a team mate into trouble leading to a turnover or c) would take off like a headless chook without considering who to give it to next. I'm not sure what his DE% is, but i'd be surprised if it was higher than about 34%. Also for a bloke his size I actually reckon (like a lot of defenders now) he has very little idea about when to mark and when to spoil. Must have had an off nite with disposal or maybe we are back as the No.1 pressure team in the AFL!....... His average DE% for the season so far is 90.6%. To put that in some perspective our best DE% defender is Nev running at 85.83% (as a side note that is the highest in the team to date). Aliir's kicking efficiency is 89.7% and Nev's is 92.3%. Edited April 15, 2019 by Rusty Nails 1 Quote
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