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Post Practice Match Discussion - Melbourne v Collingwood

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2 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

At the margin, the rule change will help the weaker teams. Last year we kicked more behinds than the opposition and we were then able to get repeat entries inside our 50. This year it will be easier to take the ball the other way.

Ok, thanks. Not sure we will be disadvantaged though in so far as our positive points differential is a function of the fact we are the highest scoring side.

As you say it will be easier to take the ball the other way but the increase won't be enough to offset our scoring advantage. I think Wells11 (apologies to the correct poster if i got that wrong) noted that the the lead league average of scoring chains from kick outs last year was under 10% (and we led the league with 13%,) so even if there is big increase the it still might only be say 15% scoring chains (not goals by the by) from  kick outs.

Also  helping us is whilst Maxy, Weid, Tmac and perhaps Pruess will help us offensively with marks across the centre from kick outs they will be equally effective defensively from teams kicking long from kick outs . Already last year clubs were having to go around Maxxy when transitioning such is ability to take contested marks. That was on display today with maxy taking a number of chop out marks on the wings and stopping the pies efforts to move the ball forward.  

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    1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

    Can anyone explain why we need a goal square any more? It seems superfluous now....

    It needs to remain for when they change the rule back due to the unforeseen, unintended consequences it creates...

    Al la hands in the back, ruck, etc ...

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    What a rubbish report on Channel 9 (although why am I not surprised). 90% of the story was Collingwood biased.

    Heck, Ben Reid's performance today was mentioned before anything remotely Melbourne related.

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    25 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

    It needs to remain for when they change the rule back due to the unforeseen, unintended consequences it creates...

    Al la hands in the back, ruck, etc ...

    There is also the angle of the kick when the ball is marked inside the square or outside the square.

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    Some good signs in the 2nd half from Tom Sparrow

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    46 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

    What a rubbish report on Channel 9 (although why am I not surprised). 90% of the story was Collingwood biased.

    Heck, Ben Reid's performance today was mentioned before anything remotely Melbourne related.

    Tony Jones is a Collingwood fan after all, so naturally we'll be served up pro Collingwood dross from channel 9. They did lose by 4 goals, so of course the main focus is on them.

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    55 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

    What a rubbish report on Channel 9 (although why am I not surprised). 90% of the story was Collingwood biased.

    Heck, Ben Reid's performance today was mentioned before anything remotely Melbourne related.

    It's Channel -Eddie Everywhere.!!

    Prefer we fly under the radar ;)

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    May have been mentioned already, but today provided a complete stitch up of Gil’s Absurd AFLX. A fantastic “practice match” match, organised by the clubs - great weather, great footy for February. When will Gil’s clowns realise that trying to recreate an American “game day experience” will slowly extinguish our great game. Give the girls in the AFLW some air and just let the clubs do what they have done for over 100 years build for the real season in March/April. Rant over! Whatever happens, always nice to beat the filth!

     

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    5 hours ago, ProDee said:

    Bit of a scrappy match.

    Best thing: no injuries.

    My other small takeaways - Brayshaw will take another step forward this year.  I thought he was great.  Harmes will continue his new found midfield role and do it well.  vandenBerg will have his best year.  And Sparrow has a very mature physique already.

    Oh and I thought Oscar looked really good.  He's just going to keep getting better.

    Both teams a bit rusty.  

    Your thoughts on Preuss and Gawn in same team please? Am worried we will be found wanting defending kickins with such a large number of talls forward.

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    5 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

    We were net +62 for behinds kicked last year (second to Richmond at +75) and first in inside 50s with +309 for the season in 2018. If anything I see the change in the kick-in rule as a negative for us.

    I can see the pressure on goal kicking go up if the 'coast to coast' goal category goes up? Imagine if St Kilda had another year of shocking goal kicking. I also see the need for defensive forward pressure making Jeffy's spot tenuous.

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    39 minutes ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

    Your thoughts on Preuss and Gawn in same team please? Am worried we will be found wanting defending kickins with such a large number of talls forward.

    I would have thought Preuss and Gawn playing together might happen 5 or 6 times.  I just can't see the structure working weekly if all talls are available.

    If I'm wrong I'm wrong.

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    6 hours ago, Vagg said:

    Don't you hate that??!!  Seems like on the odd occasions I get to a live game, ALL the play is always on the other side of the ground!! 

    Most of the time i’m in the same situation, but then that one moment comes along when Mitch Hannan runs down the wing and puts the game beyond doubt right in front of you makes level 1 seating pretty spectacular viewing.

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    15 minutes ago, ProDee said:

    I would have thought Preuss and Gawn playing together might happen 5 or 6 times.  I just can't see the structure working weekly if all talls are available.

    If I'm wrong I'm wrong.

    I agree, and I wonder if its another case of copying what the premier did to some extent...The Eagles went with Lycett and Vardy in the one side and it worked for them, despite having a tall forward line already with Darling and Kennedy. I'd love to see Gawn and Preuss work for us all year but it is a bit difficult to see exactly how it would. Good insurance policy to have another big monster ready to go in ruck though.

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    Does anybody know how Fritsch went for the Rampage I haven't watched it?

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    Anyone else think Mason Cox is an A-grade [censored]?

    How good was A VdB today? Bloody good. With him and Preuss there's going to be some serious road kill at the G this year.

    JKH looked better than ever and Hore and Sparrow showed something. Going to be an interesting time.

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    39 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

    Anyone else think Mason Cox is an A-grade [censored]?

    How good was A VdB today? Bloody good. With him and Preuss there's going to be some serious road kill at the G this year.

    JKH looked better than ever and Hore and Sparrow showed something. Going to be an interesting time.

    Cox literally just uses his height and reach. No footy IQ nor talent

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    5 hours ago, jnrmac said:

    Can anyone explain why we need a goal square any more? It seems superfluous now....

     

    5 hours ago, daisycutter said:

    1. determines the play-on boundary for kick outs

    2. marks in the square can line up dead in front on top of goal square

    Further to the above are there not certain infringements that result in a bounce at the top of the goal square?

    The first scenario listed is probably no longer relevant but I guess the second is still possible?

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    1 hour ago, pitmaster said:

    Anyone else think Mason Cox is an A-grade [censored]?

     

    Well he is a yank after all.

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    49 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

    Cox literally just uses his height and reach. No footy IQ nor talent

    I tend to agree about the IQ but he must have some talent. He has only played the game for a short time but still managed to kick five goals against us last Queens Birthday 

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