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2 minutes ago, old dee said:

Its the only way a MFC supporter remains sane.

To take the MFC seriously is folly of the highest order.

Your better off sending that post to SWYL.

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23 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Another wannabe comedian

You are one angry poster dd. You get points for being consistent.

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51 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

I think DS makes a good point in his post Titan. 

Oliver, Brayshaw, Viney, Jones and Harmes all had very interrupted preseasons and it has taken them until now (pretty much) to reach anything like last years form.  Whilst I too am very pleased we look like getting some soldiers back let's not kid ourselves that they will be anywhere near their best.

I watched Lever last week and apart from one good pack mark he was very ordinary.  That's not a criticism, just an observation.  May has played what?  One and a half games this season after an interrupted preseason.  KK has played very little in the last 2 years.  Hannan hasn't played at all this year and missed preseason and JKH has missed half a season. Add to that Melk, Jetts and AVB are a long way away and whilst it will be good to have a number back and we will be better for it I think peoples expectations about what those players might be able to achieve is optimistic.  If it takes them as long as it took our mids to find their mojo the season will be just about over.

There's a pulse but IMO we are on life support. And that's not MFCSS, that's just logic.

Agree BB.

As I have banged on about quite a bit this season having big numbers of interrupted pre seasons AND in season injuries is the key reason we have struggled (there are others of course but often they are symptom nor cause e.g. inability to execute game plan).

It has always been thus and I find it funny that the footy culture of soldier out, soldier in tricks people in underestimating the impact of those two factors.

And the impact is felt all season as as you say players usually take time to get back to their best and some simply don't until the  following season (Assuming they have a good pre season and no more injury).

It also takes time for the team gel, and that is particularly an issue for the defence as synergy is so important. And we have four first pick defenders to come back in.

All that said, if we get most players back and have no more key players go down, IF we somehow made the finals we have time for it all to come together. We only have to look at the bullies gf win for evidence to support that idea.

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5 minutes ago, binman said:

Agree BB.

As I have banged on about quite a bit this season having big numbers of interrupted pre seasons AND in season injuries is the key reason we have struggled (there are others of course but often they are symptom nor cause e.g. inability to execute game plan).

It has always been thus and I find it funny that the footy culture of soldier out, soldier in tricks people in underestimating the impact of those two factors.

And the impact is felt all season as as you say players usually take time to get back to their best and some simply don't until the  following season (Assuming they have a good pre season and no more injury).

It also takes time for the team gel, and that is particularly an issue for the defence as synergy is so important. And we have four first pick defenders to come back in.

All that said, if we get most players back and have no more key players go down, IF we somehow made the finals we have time for it all to come together. We only have to look at the bullies gf win for evidence to support that idea.

Yes and the other factor - an amazing free kick differential...774590762_ScreenShot2019-05-23at2_07_15pm.png.76f71fa5b1ecc3ceb433f24bdded6f79.png

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5 minutes ago, binman said:

Agree BB.

As I have banged on about quite a bit this season having big numbers of interrupted pre seasons AND in season injuries is the key reason we have struggled (there are others of course but often they are symptom nor cause e.g. inability to execute game plan).

It has always been thus and I find it funny that the footy culture of soldier out, soldier in tricks people in underestimating the impact of those two factors.

And the impact is felt all season as as you say players usually take time to get back to their best and some simply don't until the  following season (Assuming they have a good pre season and no more injury).

It also takes time for the team gel, and that is particularly an issue for the defence as synergy is so important. And we have four first pick defenders to come back in.

All that said, if we get most players back and have no more key players go down, IF we somehow made the finals we have time for it all to come together. We only have to look at the bullies gf win for evidence to support that idea.

You are in a powerful positive mood there binman.

I have one question.

When has the the MFC done this type of thing in the last 54 years?

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6 minutes ago, old dee said:

You are in a powerful positive mood there binman.

I have one question.

When has the the MFC done this type of thing in the last 54 years?

1987 ?

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4 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

1987 ?

So once in 54 years. I think 2020 looks a lot better year

 

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17 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Anyone who thinks MFCSS is some sort of joke, read this post.

Only on Demonland could we have someone post something this negative about players finally returning from injury.

Meh. 

Point 1 is a fact, injured players are more likely to sustain future injuries. 

Point 2 feel free to argue but I’m willing to bet there will be concern about May and Lever struggling when they come back. They won’t be anywhere near their full potential. Same with Hannan and anyone else who’s missed a long stint. I remember when Gawn came back after his hamstring and everyone thought he was awful. 

Point 3 is debatable to the impact but it’s certianly going to take time to settle the side. 

My post was a response to some comments that players back will see the team improve over the next month or so. I’m not saying we won’t improve but I think at least until guys have had 4 weeks or so in the team it will be mostly on the back of the 22 who played on the weekend. 

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1 hour ago, Wells 11 said:

Just saw that. Im sure they are fuming over at bomber land. I do HOPE we're smarter with May and don't rush him to appease the supporters. Id rather he was long term right.  

hmmn same with jSmith. be very cautious with him.

We don't want anymore groin strains turning into OP...

 

I had tennis elbow in both elbows a while back...  recovered after the physio nearly wrecked his own arms and shoulders,  rubbing out the sinews to get it to improve...  quite painful really.  Lucky i have a very high tolerance to pain.  

But that poor physio dreaded when I was coming in...   now its been 12 - maybe 16 years...  and I still get soreness twinges in the elbow,  now and then.

Tendonitis is a bugga,  once its in there.

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1 hour ago, old dee said:

You are in a powerful positive mood there binman.

I have one question.

When has the the MFC done this type of thing in the last 54 years?

I might be wrong on this but my memory is that we had a pretty bad run  with interrupted preseasons (TMac, Viney, hogan and others ?) and in season injuries (Gawn, Viney, Smith, VDB and others?) in 2017 and came with a late burst to almost sneak into the finals.

Even last year we got Viney and AVB back near the end of the season and we looked pretty fit come finals time.

The season is incredibly long and taxing the way the game is played now. The running the all team offence and defence systems demand has a huge impact on all players as does the ballistic nature of footy.

Pies and cats are flying now but they might cop their injuries at the back end of the season, as might the Lions who have had a great run with injury. Just as we are coming good!

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Non Demon injury news  - Joe Daniher out for the season again with that groin issue that wont go away.

I must say I couldnt stand this kid when he came on to the scene, not helped at all by the fact he plays for the EssenDruggos,  but he is the nephew of The Reverend so I dont mind him, and hope he can get back on the park fit and healthy next season.

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8 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

I can see comedy isn't your best suit.

A quick glance over your posts and I can see you don’t have any sense of humour whatsoever.

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18 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

Yes and the other factor - an amazing free kick differential...774590762_ScreenShot2019-05-23at2_07_15pm.png.76f71fa5b1ecc3ceb433f24bdded6f79.png

That is incredible. I remember all the  talk about but had forgotten how big the differential was. Talk about a statistical outlier.

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Sound like we should be budgeting for hibberd to return for Collingwood, not next week Vs Adelaide.

Smylie Misson kind of hinted that he may need an extra week in his injury report.

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On 5/22/2019 at 9:18 PM, titan_uranus said:

Anyone who thinks MFCSS is some sort of joke, read this post.

Only on Demonland could we have someone post something this negative about players finally returning from injury.

Rest assured that would be a very small minority TU!  A time honoured tradition passed down from generation to generation and shared amongst all genuine minion households for over half a century.

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2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Sound like we should be budgeting for hibberd to return for Collingwood, not next week Vs Adelaide.

Smylie Misson kind of hinted that he may need an extra week in his injury report.

Forget him till after the break why rush it is not as thought we going the play finals so make sure he is healthy.

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54 minutes ago, old dee said:

Forget him till after the break why rush it is not as thought we going the play finals so make sure he is healthy.

If and it's a big IF we can knock off GWS, we're back in finals discussion and his return will be required before the bye.

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30 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If and it's a big IF we can knock off GWS, we're back in finals discussion and his return will be required before the bye.

AS you say IF.

Even  if we can beat GWS doesn't that mean we can win without him so why make absolutely sure he is fit, we have ten games after the break.

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The selections last night for the Seniors and Casey have whittled down the injury list.

 

  PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
NEAL BULLEN Alex.png Alex Neal-Bullen Concussion Test
HIBBERD Michael.png Michael Hibberd Collarbone 1-2 Weeks
KOLODJASHNIJ Kade.png Kade Kolodjashnij Concussion 1-2 Weeks
MAY Steven.png Steven May Groin 1-2 Weeks
MELKSHAM Jake.png Jake Melksham Foot 3-4 Weeks
SMITH Joel.png Joel Smith Groin 4-6 Weeks
VANDENBERG Aaron.png Aaron vandenBerg Ankle TBC
JETTA Neville.png Neville Jetta Knee 7-9 Weeks
WALKER Guy.png Guy Walker Shoulder Indefinite
NIETSCHKE Aaron.png Aaron Nietschke Knee Season

 

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2 hours ago, old dee said:

Forget him till after the break why rush it is not as thought we going the play finals so make sure he is healthy.

or just play him when he is fit and ready?

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12 minutes ago, DubDee said:

or just play him when he is fit and ready?

There lies the rub DD.

" when he is fit" 

Who do you believe? e.g. Viney, a number of times he has said he is fit only to prove he wasn't and or made the injury worse. When there is little to be gained by rushing back I would punt on the cautious side. 

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6 hours ago, old dee said:

There lies the rub DD.

" when he is fit" 

Who do you believe? e.g. Viney, a number of times he has said he is fit only to prove he wasn't and or made the injury worse. When there is little to be gained by rushing back I would punt on the cautious side. 

I’d say when the doctor says he is fit to play and no heightened risk of reinjury. With a collarbone pretty easy to know when. 

Bones in the foot and stress fractures are a different story. Always some guesswork involved as doesn’t always show up on scans

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Injury relief for Demons after scans clear star defender...

MELBOURNE is breathing a sigh of relief after scans cleared key defender Jake Lever of damage to his ankle.

Lever was playing his second VFL game back after a knee reconstruction when he rolled his ankle.

The Demons' elite performance manager, David Misson, said there was no need for concern after Lever suffered the injury in the second quarter of Sunday's match against Williamstown. 

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The star defender had originally hoped to return against his former side Adelaide this weekend, but Lever is now likely to spend another week in the VFL to build match fitness. 

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