Post Match Discussion - Elimination Final

[buck_nekkid 5,479]

11 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Vote 1. Jetta on Duckwood.
 

I love the drool he knocked out of him!

[jnrmac 18,953]

21 hours ago, Danelska said:

Any one got an informed opinion on Goodwin and the FD's game day coaching for the EF? Personally I find it hard to decipher... but have noticed that the plaudits go to the players, rather than anything that the coaching stuff have done on the day.

I posted a while back that our 3rd qtr stats are outstanding. The number 1 team for the year. That says to me the coaching staff are able to make the necessary changes, reinforce the messages, get the team back on track if needed or counteract the opposition moves.

That is a very good sign that the coaches can identify what needs to be done and impart the right messages and moves.

It also seems that we have tightened up measurably since the Sydney game to mostly one on one footy - none of the no wings, or 2 behind the square for the bounce etc.

 

 

[monoccular 16,043]

12 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Vote 1. Jetta on Duckwood.
 

Some say that it was drool or spit .....  surely it is tears ???

[Beetle 4,280]

Coaches votes:

 

 

[deanox 8,568]

11 hours ago, Bates Mate said:

Salem and T Mav are excused I expect them to be more accurate as they usually are. ANB and Trac have been awful shots at goal all year I have zero confidence in the lining up a set shot at goal. 

ANB has kicked 26 goals 18 behinds. Set shot I'd tend to agree but stats aren't available.

Petracca has kicked 18.19, so ANB is a level above for accuracy. 

 

Edited September 10, 2018 by deanox

[What 18,810]

19 minutes ago, Beetle said:

Coaches votes:

 

 

Do they have a Player of the Finals?    Max already won the Coaches Award

[jnrmac 18,953]

4 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Do they have a Player of the Finals?    Max already won the Coaches Award

I believe so...

[Engorged Onion 9,262]

6 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Do they have a Player of the Finals?    Max already won the Coaches Award

The Gary Ayres Award...

[low flying Robbo 979]

Did a job in Ocean Grove yesterday.... Should have taken the scarf with me to hang out the window as I drove through Geelong 

[FarNorthernD 5,839]

Chris Scott on AFL 360 had this to say about the Demons

"I’m happier to say it now than pre-game but for a while we’ve been watching Melbourne and they could be the second best team in the competition. They comprehensively outplayed us. It will be interesting to see how they go because if they keep that style they will be a hard team to beat."

 

[Mazer Rackham 14,969]

Breakdown of coaches votes. Two possible outcomes (I've bunched together Gawn & Oliver as it's not possible to tell which got what).

 

Weid 5 + 4
Harmes 5 + 3
Gawn/Oliver 4 + 0
Oliver/Gawn 3 + 1
TMac 2 + 1
Angus 2 + 0

 

Weid 5 + 4
Harmes 5 + 3
Gawn/Oliver 4 + 0
Oliver/Gawn 2 + 2
TMac 3 + 0
Angus 1 + 1

 

So Weid & Harmes rated highly -- all good -- but Angus not? Maybe Goodwin gave him 2 and Old Spiteful gave him 0. And Gawn or Oliver ... one coach no votes!

[low flying Robbo 979]

28 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Breakdown of coaches votes. Two possible outcomes (I've bunched together Gawn & Oliver as it's not possible to tell which got what).

 

Weid 5 + 4
Harmes 5 + 3
Gawn/Oliver 4 + 0
Oliver/Gawn 3 + 1
TMac 2 + 1
Angus 2 + 0

 

Weid 5 + 4
Harmes 5 + 3
Gawn/Oliver 4 + 0
Oliver/Gawn 2 + 2
TMac 3 + 0
Angus 1 + 1

 

So Weid & Harmes rated highly -- all good -- but Angus not? Maybe Goodwin gave him 2 and Old Spiteful gave him 0. And Gawn or Oliver ... one coach no votes!

Not sure if I'm alone here but I thought Gus had a very poor first half. Didn't see much of him and I felt like he had a lot of turnovers or just sprayed kicks.

[DV8 2,271]

On 9/10/2018 at 12:56 PM, buck_nekkid said:

I love the drool he knocked out of him!

Do you mean Sellwood is drooling over our Nev, 'b_nkd' ?

such is his awe.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,579]

11 minutes ago, low flying Robbo said:

Not sure if I'm alone here but I thought Gus had a very poor first half. Didn't see much of him and I felt like he had a lot of turnovers or just sprayed kicks.

I thought Gus was pretty good first quarter.  Has such good connection with Maxy and I think he has become a big part of us winning so many clearances in general, but that was a key part of that first quarter. Also seem to recall hI'm providing some pretty good run through the guts, but I don't recall specificly which quarter.

[DV8 2,271]

16 hours ago, low flying Robbo said:

Did a job in Ocean Grove yesterday.... Should have taken the scarf with me to hang out the window as I drove through Geelong 

not you,  'lfR'  ?

de phantom of Oceans Grove. ?

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,579]

Loved the sight of us standing arms linked as a tight knit group during the anthem before Friday's game.

http://m.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-09-10/in-pictures-melbourne-v-geelong

If I recall correctly, Geelong by contrast stood spaced a bit apart, arms by their sides without contacting each other.  I looked at it at the time and thought that body language really told a story and so it played out with the pressure we applied and how hard we worked for each other as a team.

This kind of comradery is so important to sucess, can't just be manufactured and turned on at will and I'm hoping it gives us some extra edge going forward this finals series and beyond.

[layzie 28,708]

16 hours ago, low flying Robbo said:

Did a job in Ocean Grove yesterday.... Should have taken the scarf with me to hang out the window as I drove through Geelong 

Yeah you should have, as well as enjoy the good weather today!

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,579]

13 minutes ago, DV8 said:

not you,  'lfR'  ?

de phantom of Oceans Grove. ?

Well, we certainly shat all over the Cats in the first quarter and most of the rest of the game.

[Nasher 33,047]

6 hours ago, low flying Robbo said:

Not sure if I'm alone here but I thought Gus had a very poor first half. Didn't see much of him and I felt like he had a lot of turnovers or just sprayed kicks.

Brayshaw spent a lot of time on the pine in the first half. Only had 71% TOG for the game; only Tyson and Viney had less.

[Engorged Onion 9,262]

8 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Loved the sight of us standing arms linked as a tight knit group during the anthem before Friday's game.

http://m.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-09-10/in-pictures-melbourne-v-geelong

If I recall correctly, Geelong by contrast stood spaced a bit apart, arms by their sides without contacting each other.  I looked at it at the time and thought that body language really told a story and so it played out with the pressure we applied and how hard we worked for each other as a team.

This kind of comradery is so important to sucess, can't just be manufactured and turned on at will and I'm hoping it gives us some extra edge going forward this finals series and beyond.

That did not influence the outcome of the game.... 

Yes, It's emblematic of the camaraderie... but the players care, love and compassion towards one another is tough to measure vs another team... 

They could have easily chosen to not link arms, and still have the same outcome.

 

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,579]

53 minutes ago, Danelska said:

That did not influence the outcome of the game.... 

Yes, It's emblematic of the camaraderie... but the players care, love and compassion towards one another is tough to measure vs another team... 

They could have easily chosen to not link arms, and still have the same outcome.

 

I agree it was partially symbolic, but sometimes you can tell a fair bit from body language and more importantly, it was also backed up by the way they played.  It's also really evident when you hear guys like Nathan Jones, Max Gawn, Jack Viney and most of the team speak just how invested they are in the club.  To a certain extent the journey the team has been on, having guys like Jones who could have left, but stayed the course has built a strength from adversity and togetherness that many players at the more reciently successfull clubs who were 'born into privilege' just probably do not experience and can not manufacturer.

I also don't think the pressure and physicality that we have witnessed over the past month has come from nowhere.  The first half we played against Richmond the physical pressure on the Tigs was manic, we were pretty had at it against Port in Adelaide also and the stats would show we have dominated contested ball all year, it's just that we are now bringing together the other parts of our game better as well.

[jnrmac 18,953]

1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

I agree it was partially symbolic, but sometimes you can tell a fair bit from body language and more importantly, it was also backed up by the way they played.  It's also really evident when you hear guys like Nathan Jones, Max Gawn, Jack Viney and most of the team speak just how invested they are in the club.  To a certain extent the journey the team has been on, having guys like Jones who could have left, but stayed the course has built a strength from adversity and togetherness that many players at the more reciently successfull clubs who were 'born into privilege' just probably do not experience and can not manufacturer.

I also don't think the pressure and physicality that we have witnessed over the past month has come from nowhere.  The first half we played against Richmond the physical pressure on the Tigs was manic, we were pretty had at it against Port in Adelaide also and the stats would show we have dominated contested ball all year, it's just that we are now bringing together the other parts of our game better as well.

Contrast it with the Adelaide 'Power stance' for the GF. Contrived and a failure...

 

[Cards13 9,117]

3 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Contrast it with the Adelaide 'Power stance' for the GF. Contrived and a failure...

 

The whole finals series wasn’t it. 

[jnrmac 18,953]

2 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

The whole finals series wasn’t it. 

Could be right. I was OS last year and only saw the GF.

[Sadler 26]

6 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Could be right. I was OS last year and only saw the GF.

Where did you go?