1 hour ago, Jaded said:

For 2 years now I've forked over $700 for a membership that comes with guaranteed finals tickets access. Smart move that was. 

I've been doing that post the non merger!

3 hours ago, Smokey said:

What does this even mean? Because some of us entertained the idea of trading him that we someone willed this injury upon him? Or that we are somehow relishing on a fine young man struck down by injury? 

That's enough internet for you today, champ. 

Why are you taking this personally ?  I was referring to all the knockers who wanted to trade him . However if you are one of those knockers then feel free to take it personally. And if so on your bike! as the saying goes. 

 

39 minutes ago, bing181 said:

If it was just Hogan, maybe. But it's not. You cannot take 3 of your key players (Hogan, Viney, Lever are about as "key" as it gets) out of the team and expect to get anything like the same level of performance. If that was the case, then you could argue that Carlton should be in the 8.

I'm as optimistic as they come, but I'm also a realist, and this is just a bridge too far. 

we often dont agree...but its hard not to here. A bridge too far indeed.  I dont think Demons are far enough ahead in the queue for miracles. Really needed to beat Sydney to get things to click...they didnt.

Weideman to step up

Glad the club put him on ice, it’s not a bad one apparently but players have pushed through previously and had an issue. Come back super charged for next season Hogs. 

Edited August 14, 20186 yr by Cards13

14 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Really needed to beat Sydney

I'll disagree with you on that (while of course, agreeing as well ...), because I don't believe these things ever come down to one match, one decision, one player. It's a cumulation of events, in this case, an accumulation of losses, in particular those against Geelong x2 and St Kilda. Sydney were *always* going to be difficult to beat, the other 3 matches were more achievable wins.

Though even in those, players out (Viney, McDonald, Lever etc.) contributed IMHO.

1 minute ago, bing181 said:

I'll disagree with you on that (while of course, agreeing as well ...), because I don't believe these things ever come down to one match, one decision, one player. It's a cumulation of events, in this case, an accumulation of losses, in particular those against Geelong x2 and St Kilda. Sydney were *always* going to be difficult to beat, the other 3 matches were more achievable wins.

Though even in those, players out (Viney, McDonald, Lever etc.) contributed IMHO.

but in a sense thats the thing...the accumulation as you put it.. The Sydney game would have added to momentum, added to confidence.....Had we won it would have been because certain and various things had been done right/well. It might have shown we were atoning for those very games you mentioned. The new accumulation would have been positive. My thinking was we needed to beat Sydney to show we had overcome the inertia,  its my opinion of course.

I never thought wed beat Sydney to tell the truth... The first couple of mins didnt nothing to sway that but then we had SO much of the game..and fluffed it..

Hogans demise seemed to mirror the whole side really. 

Love how grounded Hogan is about it as well - mentioned that, while disappointed, Alex Johnson just did his sixth ACL so he can't really complain.  It's a great attitude to have and will hold him in great stead in his recovery from this injury.

It's well known that he is one of our hardest workers at training, so once he is fit again I have no doubt that he can come back fitter and better in 2019.

4 hours ago, binman said:

Is it? Weird they would build a brand new ground and not make it the same dimensions as the g.

If it is indeed narrower that really helps u as the width of the g makes our aggressive press less effective as an attacking weapon and more easily penetrated by opponents on the rebound 

Yep it is:

https://optusstadium.com.au/factsheets/afl-fact-sheet/

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

we often dont agree...but its hard not to here. A bridge too far indeed.  I dont think Demons are far enough ahead in the queue for miracles. Really needed to beat Sydney to get things to click...they didnt.

yep... of the three games we all knew Sydney was the easiest if there is such a thing.Not much mention on the board about how lucky we were that Buddy kicked 1:5.

In a way it would be very Melbourne to beat WCE and then fall to GWS.

The unfortunate reality is that while our VFL team kicks butt in their competition they have produced very little even by way of depth for the senior team. Not one inclusion has stayed the course. I thought we had found something in Tim Smith but that failed as well.

PS: I rate Spargo as a worthwhile product but I am not sure he qualifies as coming from the VFL as he only played about 6 games at that level.

Edited August 14, 20186 yr by Diamond_Jim

I haven't read every post so this may have been pointed out already.

From memory , Dave Misson started at the MFC for the 2012 preseason (late 2011).

Not long after that we lost Jack Trengove to navicular injury that dragged out for way too long, and we lost Mitch Clark to a lisfranc injury. They are just the two main ones I can recall from soon after Misson got to the club...  perhaps there are others someone else will remember. 

Now this season we obviously have Viney,  Stretch, Hogan, T Mac all with foot or toe issues.

Is it all just a coincidence, or is Missons training/recovery program/philosophy the (very very big) problem?

 

 

 

6 hours ago, Redleg said:

Yeah but Heeney is much bigger than Pedo, oh wait a minute.

We clearly went in with one lumbering player too many.

Oh and also one skilless player and one sh-t scared player.

That's why we change tack and go small, we are 0-7 against top 8 sides, change it up Goody FFS.

Edited August 14, 20186 yr by Win4theAges

11 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

I haven't read every post so this may have been pointed out already.

From memory , Dave Misson started at the MFC for the 2012 preseason (late 2011).

Not long after that we lost Jack Trengove to navicular injury that dragged out for way too long, and we lost Mitch Clark to a lisfranc injury. They are just the two main ones I can recall from soon after Misson got to the club...  perhaps there are others someone else will remember. 

Now this season we obviously have Viney,  Stretch, Hogan, T Mac all with foot or toe issues.

Is it all just a coincidence, or is Missons training/recovery program/philosophy the (very very big) problem?

 

 

 

The guy is a Wart.

We should have drafted Michael 'Juice' Newton as a rookie. 

8 hours ago, ben russell said:

Confirmed by the club that he is out for the season.

Here's the link --> http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-08-14/hogan-to-miss-rest-of-the-season

Apology accepted DD ?

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

Yep by 8 metres.

11 according to this:

https://optusstadium.com.au/factsheets/afl-fact-sheet/

8 hours ago, nosoupforme said:

I will say this to all who have been critical of Jesse Hogan and wanted him traded or out  just incase you forgot his name, You have your wish. Live with it. I hope you feel ashamed with yourselves..

Drugs are bad.

This club doesnt need better fitness staff, it needs an exorcist.

11 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

This club doesnt need better fitness staff, it needs an exorcist.

and a proctologist 

9 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

This season just keeps on giving.... Oh well Weideman has got two weeks to show if he has improved this year.

Personally that just about does me for this year... time to pick a team to watch in the finals as usual

it seems like its headed that way for sure.  another wasted year. 

but no, this team will surprise.  against the odds we shall fire.  we're finals bound.  we're granny bound.  we're premiership bound.  

Again I have not or do not want to read all posts on this but my take is it will give someone else a go (maybe Weeds) and you never know it may well make those up the ground to FINALLY lower their eyes and look for someone spare in the forward line in lieu of tossing it up in air at Hogan.

As bad as it is for Hogan this maybe a blessing for us and our entries into forward line will be better and forwards work better as a unit. 

It may be a blessing in disguise.  It is a shame he is out, but it might focus the squad, change our f50 entry structure, invite others to step up, and encourage the opposition to overestimate our weakness.

i hope the squad digs deep and sticks it up the Weagles.

10 hours ago, TGR said:

He rang 94201700 and pretended to be his GP?

 

Why are we shooting the messenger anyway?  The real issue is the club's history in dealing with below-knee issues.

I think they also need to deal with between the ears issues.

6 hours ago, Jaded said:

For 2 years now I've forked over $700 for a membership that comes with guaranteed finals tickets access. Smart move that was. 

Me too, last two years in Trident. Seriously considering going back to Redlegs on Level 1 next year.