Farewell Jack Watts

[Demon Disciple 11,972]

46 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Wouldn't it be funny if JW got up to make his speech and declared he's staying??!

Maybe something along the lines of Chocco Williams. "Simon Goodwin and Josh Mahoney..........you're wrong"

[Dockett 32 1,239]

15 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Obviously. He doesn't create it or cause it. His job is recruitment...thats the IN columb. He has nothing to do with the OUT .

He'll advise who's best available. The FD then spends...not Taylor.

Not sure they would work in isolation.

[beelzebub 23,306]

1 minute ago, Dockett 32 said:

Not sure they would work in isolation.

They dont.. but Taylor doesnt cause it...just lists the players to get.

Its not a  hard distinction. 

[bing181 9,189]

1 hour ago, rpfc said:

What would affect the merits of this decision?

“You can’t tell the quality of the decision you are making by the outcome that will be produced. Or, to put it another way, you can’t tell by the outcome whether you made a good decision. It’s just a logical mistake to say, “I got the good outcome, I must have made a good decision.” And yet that’s what everybody thinks.”

https://hbr.org/2014/11/how-to-tell-if-youve-made-a-good-decision

[beelzebub 23,306]

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

A season isn't defined by one game.

Irony doesn't require a season.,just a context.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,453]

1 hour ago, P-man said:

The emotion on here is nothing. The MFC parents are the ones I feel sorry for once it becomes official. Gonna be some waterworks in those households. He's very popular with the kids.

Takes me back to when we delisted Jakovich.

[bing181 9,189]

1 hour ago, rpfc said:

I read a social experiment that had those that paid to see a movie, rate it higher than those that didn't have to pay - the investment made the person wedded to the movie more and made it desirable to make it worth that investment.

Exactly. A combination of the Endowment effect (we value things we have/own over things we don't) coupled with a touch of Sunk Cost Fallacy (the more you invest financially or emotionally in something the harder it becomes to abandon it - one of the reasons people stay in unsatisfying relationships or jobs) and Status Quo Bias (we're generally resistant to change and prefer things to stay the same and do nothing.)

[praha 11,226]

5 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Takes me back to when we delisted Jakovich.

Didn't he ask to be let go/retired?

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,453]

1 minute ago, praha said:

Didn't he ask to be let go/retired?

Through the tears I recall he was let go due to his back injury and we had too many long term injured players on the list- Schwartz, Lyon, Tingay, etc.

I could be wrong - he came back after a year out and played for Footscray.

Regardless, I was shattered.

[What 18,810]

18 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Takes me back to when we delisted Jakovich.

You mean this guy?

https://twitter.com/brey9186/status/914339530928295936

 

 

Edited October 7, 2017 by Petraccattack

[spirit of norm smith 16,090]

18 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Takes me back to when we delisted Jakovich.

No comparison. Jakovich was a 2 year phenomenon and his back/body was struggling. For other MFC fan favourites 

Woey was pushed out around money  

The Wiz went home to WA

But losing Watts on the verge of our success is hard to digest for the vast majority of supporters.  He wants to stay!!  Very rare to find clubs kick out players with 2 years to run on contracts and they want to stay.  And he is in best 22 definitely  

 

[ChewyOnMyBoot 152]

One day all may be revealed. Particularly if he leaves.

I would be really surprised if PJ hasn't forced the parties into mediation of some sort. Or at least got the coaching panel in and said "This s#*t has to stop. Sort it out". Because if Jack does decide to go it could get pretty ugly on any number of fronts. And that can ill be afforded by a second year coach who has been handed the duck that has the potential to lay the golden egg. Nor the club so soon after it seems to have been put back on track.

It wouldn't surprise me if Jack tells us he's staying at the B & F. That he's met with Goodwin and it's all patched up. Everything is understood and they are on the same page.

Edited October 7, 2017 by ChewyOnMyBoot

[Beetle 4,577]

3 minutes ago, ChewyOnMyBoot said:

One day all may be revealed. Particularly if he leaves.

I would be really surprised if PJ hasn't forced the parties into mediation of some sort. Or at least got the coaching panel in and said "This s#*t has to stop. Sort it out". Because if Jack does decide to go it could get pretty ugly on any number of fronts. And that can ill be afforded by neither a second year coach who was handed the duck that has the potential to lay the golden egg nor the club so soon after it seems to have been put back on track.

It wouldn't surprise me if Jack tells us he's staying at the B & F. That he's met with Goodwin and it's all patched up.

PJs in it up to his eyeballs trust me...and not in the way of "mediation".

[frankie_d 1,471]

2 minutes ago, Beetle said:

PJs in it up to his eyeballs trust me...and not in the way of "mediation".

PJs involvement can only be good and that lifts the gloom a little for me. Can you expand on ‘not in the way of “mediator”’?  Please. 

[demoniac 1,330]

3 minutes ago, frankie_d said:

PJs involvement can only be good and that lifts the gloom a little for me. Can you expand on ‘not in the way of “mediator”’?  Please. 

I think our CEO and Board would have been briefed about the decision to trade Jack, the reasons behind that decision, and the messaging around that decision.

[deelete my account 1,194]

2 hours ago, jumbo returns said:

Wouldn't it be funny if JW got up to make his speech and declared he's staying??!

Wowee!

Biggest moment since the bomb hit No 96 and Mr and Mrs Gondolfus were written out of the show!

You're assuming Jack gets an invite from our Adelaide bred coach

[hardtack 10,500]

33 minutes ago, frankie_d said:

PJs involvement can only be good and that lifts the gloom a little for me. Can you expand on ‘not in the way of “mediator”’?  Please. 

With regards to PJ's involvement, I'm guessing that Beetle is speculating.

[Skuit 10,027]

44 minutes ago, ChewyOnMyBoot said:

One day all may be revealed. Particularly if he leaves.

I would be really surprised if PJ hasn't forced the parties into mediation of some sort. Or at least got the coaching panel in and said "This s#*t has to stop. Sort it out". Because if Jack does decide to go it could get pretty ugly on any number of fronts. And that can ill be afforded by a second year coach who has been handed the duck that has the potential to lay the golden egg. Nor the club so soon after it seems to have been put back on track.

It wouldn't surprise me if Jack tells us he's staying at the B & F. That he's met with Goodwin and it's all patched up. Everything is understood and they are on the same page.

Imagine if Jack Watts being traded tore our club apart lol.

You're sounding kind of desperate and irrational. Maybe you'll find a nice new player to support in this year's draft?

[ChewyOnMyBoot 152]

18 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Imagine if Jack Watts being traded tore our club apart lol.

You're sounding kind of desperate and irrational. Maybe you'll find a nice new player to support in this year's draft?

Awwww. You so funny. You make me laugh. Maybe you find another brain cell to go with the one you already got!

[bing181 9,189]

5 hours ago, ChewyOnMyBoot said:

It wouldn't surprise me if Jack tells us he's staying at the B & F. That he's met with Goodwin and it's all patched up. Everything is understood and they are on the same page.

Fantasyland.

You are seriously, seriously in denial. 

Even the fact that you seem to think that this is just between Watts and Goodwin, my god ... the frustration with Watts goes right through the club, from player level up to (clearly, as this wouldn't happen without their endorsement) Board level. As someone "in the know" commented, "Watts has burnt too many bridges".

Sad end to the fairytale, but there you go.

[bing181 9,189]

5 hours ago, demoniac said:

I think our CEO and Board would have been briefed about the decision to trade Jack, the reasons behind that decision, and the messaging around that decision.

More than just briefed.

[puntkick 325]

I,m 114 pages in and still can,t decide if to vote yes or no.

More information please !

[Cards13 9,117]

On 06/10/2017 at 10:33 AM, DemonOX said:

Could have been worse picket we could have missed out on Lever too. 

Unfortunately we as a club are taking baby steps and it is frustrating cause other teams always seem to go past us. 

Don't agree at all. Are the 3 players who nominated ESS the players we want? Probably not so we wouldn't have spoken to their managers, they may want more money that we want to pay, we may have other options for the position they play... there will be multiple reasons why to say players don't want to come to us is not true when you look at Lever, and there will be more conversations going on.

[Redleg 40,769]

8 hours ago, ChewyOnMyBoot said:

One day all may be revealed. Particularly if he leaves.

I would be really surprised if PJ hasn't forced the parties into mediation of some sort. Or at least got the coaching panel in and said "This s#*t has to stop. Sort it out". Because if Jack does decide to go it could get pretty ugly on any number of fronts. And that can ill be afforded by a second year coach who has been handed the duck that has the potential to lay the golden egg. Nor the club so soon after it seems to have been put back on track.

It wouldn't surprise me if Jack tells us he's staying at the B & F. That he's met with Goodwin and it's all patched up. Everything is understood and they are on the same page.

It would surprise me.

[Cards13 9,117]

8 hours ago, Beetle said:

PJs in it up to his eyeballs trust me...and not in the way of "mediation".

Goody and footy dept would have been talking to PJ about players/club direction at points all season, of course he is all over it and you would think he have given his feedback on it prior to it happening, during and post outcome.