Trade rumours

[DemonOX 8,570]

16 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Not a rumour, but Bernie Vince just signed on for another year

Can we get please have a head baggin against a wall imoji as an option?

This would have been perfect in this case. 

Edited September 21, 2017 by DemonOX

[spirit of norm smith 13,603]

Apparently Pies will ask for potential trade for Weideman.  They see him as future Full Forward alongside Darcy Moore. 

I say No but if pick 6 was on offer then they can keep talking.  

Perhaps...

Pick 6 and pick 23

for Weideman and MFC 1st round 2018 draft 

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11 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Apparently Pies will ask for potential trade for Weideman.  They see him as future Full Forward alongside Darcy Moore. 

I say No but if pick 6 was on offer then they can keep talking.  

Perhaps...

Pick 6 and pick 23

for Weideman and MFC 1st round 2018 draft 

I still recall Eddie McGuire talking about Wiedeman's grandpa pre-game before Sam played his first game, must've been one minute he rattled on and you could tell there was a bitter envy there. The Coc hed had the audacity to make the kids first game about Collingwood. If they offered pick 6, i think we'd have to take it if we'd found someone worth taking no matter what the position, if the team wanting the trade is going on family-club romantacism and assumed potential and not on what he's shown so far. We'd then use pick 6 for a trade that fills a hole, or we'd develop a youngster and let Taylor find a forward that fits into our forward line with Hogan, Tmac & Watts with picks, trades or FA over the next year or two.

If anything, this smells like a team trying to get in on the Lever trade. If Adelaide won't accept our 2nd round pick, then it does seem like it's Watts or Salem vs Wiedeman to get it done for Adelaide with 10 & 6

Edited September 21, 2017 by Deeprived Childhood

[Ethan Tremblay 28,828]

15 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Apparently Pies will ask for potential trade for Weideman.  They see him as future Full Forward alongside Darcy Moore. 

I say No but if pick 6 was on offer then they can keep talking.  

Perhaps...

Pick 6 and pick 23

for Weideman and MFC 1st round 2018 draft 

Our first pick in the 2018 draft as well?

Where does Eddie sign? 

Edited September 21, 2017 by Ethan Tremblay

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,877]

35 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Atley?!

A good kick?!

A god-awful suggestion.

100% agree with this. I've watched him closely and he is fairly useless. 

Has good speed but doesn't get enough of it and isn't damaging.

A trade of Watts for Atley would be a loss on our part.

[spirit of norm smith 13,603]

Agree. Pies love romance of Daicos, Brown, Weideman names in their lineup.  Like we do with Viney, Stretch ...

[Constant Mongrel 571]

13 minutes ago, Deeprived Childhood said:

I still recall Eddie McGuire talking about Wiedeman's grandpa pre-game before Sam played his first game, must've been one minute he rattled on and you could tell there was a bitter envy there. The Coc hed had the audacity to make the kids first game about Collingwood. If they offered pick 6, i think we'd have to take it if we'd found someone worth taking no matter what the position, if the team wanting the trade is going on family-club romantacism and assumed potential and not on what he's shown so far. We'd then use pick 6 for a trade that fills a hole, or we'd develop a youngster and let Taylor find a forward that fits into our forward line with Hogan, Tmac & Watts with picks, trades or FA over the next year or two.

If anything, this smells like a team trying to get in on the Lever trade. If Adelaide won't accept our 2nd round pick, then it does seem like it's Watts or Salem vs Wiedeman to get it done for Adelaide with 10 & 6

i'd be [censored] to lose 10 & weideman for lever.. weideman ain't goin nowhere.. yet.

[beelzebub 22,718]

22 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Apparently Pies will ask for potential trade for Weideman.  They see him as future Full Forward alongside Darcy Moore. 

I say No but if pick 6 was on offer then they can keep talking.  

Perhaps...

Pick 6 and pick 23

for Weideman and MFC 1st round 2018 draft 

Let me know I'll drive him over !!

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18 minutes ago, Rocky said:

i'd be [censored] to lose 10 & weideman for lever.. weideman ain't goin nowhere.. yet.

I meant, if Collingwood were stupid enough to offer pick 6 for Weideman with where they're positioned right now to "get the lever trade done", taking that sort of a risk, then we'd take it and use it for another trade or draft a player. We'd instead offer either #10 & Watts or Salem, #10 and a 2nd round pick or #10 and 2018 1st round pick swap for Adelaide's 1st round pick... at the most for Lever imo. 

Either way, Having Lever & Pick 6/Weideman is a must for future development.

Edited September 21, 2017 by Deeprived Childhood

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

I'd trade Weid for the Pies first round pick in a heartbeat.

[Moonshadow 16,608]

Coll's 6 for the Weed, then 6 to GC for Lynch. Isn't he a fa next year?

Edited September 21, 2017 by Moonshadow

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6 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Coll's 6 for the Weed, then 6 to GC for Lynch. Isn't he a fa next year?

He's everyones FAntasy for next year.

Edited September 21, 2017 by Deeprived Childhood

[Wiseblood 24,636]

47 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Apparently Pies will ask for potential trade for Weideman.  They see him as future Full Forward alongside Darcy Moore. 

I say No but if pick 6 was on offer then they can keep talking.  

Perhaps...

Pick 6 and pick 23

for Weideman and MFC 1st round 2018 draft 

Apparently?  What source is this?

And that trade is god awful.  One of the worst I've seen on here this year.

[Moonshadow 16,608]

1 minute ago, Deeprived Childhood said:

He's everyones FAntasy for next year.

Sure, but 6 is more than what they'd get as compo. Preserves our first pick in 2018. Leaves this year's pick 10 and 27 for Lever (or Weed+27 for 6, and 10+Watts for Lever). I'd wet my pants if we landed Lynch and Lever this year. Fanciful, certainly, but no harm asking.

[chook fowler 18,575]

12 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Apparently?  What source is this?

And that trade is god awful.  One of the worst I've seen on here this year.

This trade talk is getting sillier by the minute.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

I'd take a late second round pick for weid. 

[Demons11 6,407]

1 hour ago, samcantstandya said:

Can't believe people want 2 get rid of Watts there are many I'd get rid of b4 him

As mebtioned above, players need to have some form of currency to be traded. 

Agree that there are players to go before him, but they either get delisted or swapped for steak knifes 

[jackaub 1,402]

29 minutes ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

I'd trade Weid for the Pies first round pick in a heartbeat.

Wied for pick 6 

YES PLEASE DO IT 

[chook fowler 18,575]

To trade the Weed would be a massive vote of no confidence in our recruiters and development staff. It's just Eddie fondling himself. Not going to happen.

[jackaub 1,402]

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No in fact it may be they realise the window is only open for a short time and we have to make hard decisions to get a premiership group together

It would in fact be seen as proactive team development we invested in Wied now we maximise his value

[Demons11 6,407]

4 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

To trade the Weed would be a massive vote of no confidence in our recruiters and development staff. It's just Eddie fondling himself. Not going to happen.

Did McGuire say this?

[Lucifers Hero 37,524]

10 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Did McGuire say this?

I suspect @spirit of norm smithwas bored with the lack of rumours so created one!

So easy for people to believe this line:  "Apparently Pies will ask for potential trade for Weideman.  They see him as future Full Forward alongside Darcy Moore". 

Nothing whatsoever, to lend any cred to the claim.  Its not even a rumour!

Edited September 21, 2017 by Lucifer's Hero

[Bitter but optimistic 21,580]

19 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

This trade talk is getting sillier by the minute.

No surprise in that chook

[64" 97]

More than happy to let him go for the right trade.Doesnt impress me and l have seen and played plenty of footy.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

39 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

I'd take a late second round pick for weid. 

 

35 minutes ago, jackaub said:

Wied for pick 6 

YES PLEASE DO IT 

 

The trade talk surrounding Weed is some of the funniest I've heard and if posters buy it they have genuinely NFI about anything regarding football lists and list management.

Let's understand a bit about Sam first and the context surrounding him as a player and what the word 'development' looks like:

Having come off pretty much no pre-season leading into his last year of TAC cup (his draft year), he managed only five games at TAC cup level as well as the game he played against the Northern Blues where he showed enormous potential. The injury was due to an ankle stress fracture that he eventually had operated on and he also had an iron deficiency at the same time.

Sam was touted as a top three pick at one stage based on his talent levels for his type of player and what he had shown as an underaged player the year previous.

So he had next to no pre-season leading into his last year with the Rangers, only managed five games at TAC cup level that year before having an operation, and then he had to carefully manage and rehab an extremely delicate injury that can easily be re-aggravated.  

Have a think about how much conditioning and fitness he lost during that time and compare it to his contemporaries at that level? Yet we still had the balls to take him inside the top 10 on the back of all that! So into the club he came on a very modified first pre-season with the full knowledge and understanding that he was going to take time. Much more time than your average first year underdeveloped forward given his injury history. 

And look what he achieved in his first year at Casey on the back of all of that conditioning he missed. Granted, this year was clearly more difficult for him but I still saw games in which he played and looked like an AFL level player playing in a lower league.

In what will be his second full pre-season both in the gym and on the track, I know that we're going to see him a lot more at AFL level next year and I also know that he's going to show why he was picked inside the top 10. As soon as his body allows, his AFL level talent will shine on the big stage.

The Weed is not going anywhere.

Edited September 22, 2017 by stevethemanjordan