Changes versus Collingwood

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

22 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

Tough call on Tyson. I'd be ok with it but Tyson's game against the Saints was massive and in contested ball finals I'd want him in. It's a nice dilemma to finally have close to a full team to choose from.

It comes down to balance, the likes of ANB, Harmes, Vince or possibly Hannan could come out before him, but they all play a different role to Tyson.

 

Edited August 23, 2017 by Clint Bizkit

[watchtheeyes 1,417]

I just don't get people calling for Tyson to be dropped. Makes me think I know nothing about footy..

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1 minute ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Before Hannan Luci?

I think so.  Recently, Jason Taylor described Hannan as an 'impact' player.  He also has a nice side step and is one of the more composed players on our forward line.  On average he kicks 1 goal per game.

In terms of role, Harmes is playing upfield a bit when Watts is not in the team.  With Watts back its harder to find a role for him.

Lastly, Hannan played in a winning VFL team last year.  So he has finals experience, albeit not at AFL.

Harmes would be stiff to miss out...but  I would prefer Hannan...just my thoughts...

[Mel Bourne 4,446]

20 hours ago, DubDee said:

Viney has to play unless there is risk of worsening the injury.  if he is 80% then he plays, gets 2 weeks off and goes again

he is the baromter. Aish will take a look at Vineys face at the first bounce and crap his dacks

Hmmm, taking two weeks off after this upcoming match isn't exactly ideal though. 

I'd like to see Viney rested for one more week. The risk of us not making the final eight seeeeems to be lower than the risk of Viney pulling up too sore for an elimination final post what is bound to be a very hard-fought match this weekend. And I can't see Adelaide just lying down against WC this weekend. After last weekend's result, individuals will be playing for finals selection and the team for restored dominance. 

Hopefully, anyway. 

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54 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

Hmmm, taking two weeks off after this upcoming match isn't exactly ideal though. 

I'd like to see Viney rested for one more week. The risk of us not making the final eight seeeeems to be lower than the risk of Viney pulling up too sore for an elimination final post what is bound to be a very hard-fought match this weekend. And I can't see Adelaide just lying down against WC this weekend. After last weekend's result, individuals will be playing for finals selection and the team for restored dominance. 

Hopefully, anyway. 

I agree, but hopefully IF (pretty decent sized if) we win he isn't too rusty come finals given he will have had a couple of weeks off..

No Hurley again this week for Essendon too apparently, which fingers crossed is putting them at a massive disadvantage on the weekend.

Edited August 23, 2017 by In Gawn we Trust

[Redleg 40,444]

26 minutes ago, In Gawn we Trust said:

I agree, but hopefully IF (pretty decent sized if) we win he isn't too rusty come finals given he will have had a couple of weeks off..

No Hurley again this week for Essendon too apparently, which fingers crossed is putting them at a massive disadvantage on the weekend.

Bombers are playing Dockers here. Dockers are on holidays. 

Bomber % will jump. 

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5 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Bombers are playing Dockers here. Dockers are on holidays. 

Bomber % will jump. 

Yeah i realised that after i posted lol, buggerrrrrrrr...

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1 hour ago, watchtheeyes said:

I just don't get people calling for Tyson to be dropped. Makes me think I know nothing about footy..

I like tyson, and when he shows patience and uses the ball well, he is one of our best.

BUT, i am just telling you what i know from inside the club, and if he doesnt play up to his best standard, he could be one to miss, as unlucky or unlikely as that may be.

He is not quick, and to have him, vince, lewis and jones (all who are not quick) all in the same team does make us a little slow, so he needs to do what he is good at, but if he doesnt, he could be the unlucky one.

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I agree with the consensus with Watts and Salem in for Wagner and Stretch. 

It would great to see Maynard given another chance for additional grunt for what will be a high intensity match. I would rest who ever has a slight niggle out of Tyson, Harmes, Vince or Petracca

[jnrmac 19,944]

21 hours ago, Grand New Flag said:

I saw the Goodwin interview. My read o it was different.

Goodwin knows he must play Watts but is carefully managing Watts to get the best return. Simply Goodwin us trying to put a firecracker up Watts.

Worked a treat preseason. 

Goodwin wants that return again. its a clear play. Watts is clearly best 22 and this is the pointy end of the season. We all know we can't go far without Watts at full steam in the finals.  Goodwin is doing his thing. 

Watts to play a blinder this weekend.

If Jack can't get fired up enough to play finals after 9 seasons and 150 games then its pretty obvious where the problem lies.

I hope Jack gets a shot as he has skills we need. But Goody has been firm and I have to say I like what he is doing - if you don't want to demonstrate intensity and desire there isn't a spot for you.

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3 hours ago, Yokozuna said:

I like tyson, and when he shows patience and uses the ball well, he is one of our best.

BUT, i am just telling you what i know from inside the club, and if he doesnt play up to his best standard, he could be one to miss, as unlucky or unlikely as that may be.

He is not quick, and to have him, vince, lewis and jones (all who are not quick) all in the same team does make us a little slow, so he needs to do what he is good at, but if he doesnt, he could be the unlucky one.

If I had to drop one of Vince, Lewis, Tyson or Jones... it'd have to be Vince for me.

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4 minutes ago, watchtheeyes said:

If I had to drop one of Vince, Lewis, Tyson or Jones... it'd have to be Vince for me.

Yep, I'd drop Vince before Hannan, Harmes or ANB personally.

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Agree Harmes, ANB and to a lessor extent Hannan are playing to well ATM.

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5 hours ago, watchtheeyes said:

I just don't get people calling for Tyson to be dropped. Makes me think I know nothing about footy..

No. You know plenty it is the opposite.

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19 hours ago, watchtheeyes said:

I just don't get people calling for Tyson to be dropped. Makes me think I know nothing about footy..

Its not you, its them.

Tyson is solid as a rock and a huge part of our midfield engine. 

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30 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Its not you, its them.

Tyson is solid as a rock and a huge part of our midfield engine. 

He is solid but does butcher the ball

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The amusing thing about this thread is the various convoluted explanations which all come back to the same thing...Watts and Salem in for Wagner and Stretch. 

[Demon17 5,103]

5 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Its not you, its them.

Tyson is solid as a rock and a huge part of our midfield engine. 

At last. I also thought it was me.  I watched Tyson do an individual skills/ball handling warm up at the G last week and just reflected that he seems to get the ball a lot in traffic and links well getting the ball out. That's his strong suit.  Granted the team needs outsiders  and that's not his forte but gee, he's not Robinson Crusoe either in clangers.

 

[Deespicable 2,691]

Based on the little bit of training I saw today, there might be up to two more changes.

T-Mac may be rested - battling a niggling knee injury I think. That means Frost gets a game.

Hannan also is a bit proppy and received treatment - he may just be a straight swap this week for Watts.

That could mean: Salem in for Wagner and JKH or Kennedy on for Billy.

All will be revealed soon however!

 

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5 hours ago, Demons11 said:

He is solid but does butcher the ball

Solid at butchering the ball*

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Would love to know why Burgan/Misson did their injury report video this week. 

Literally told us nothing we don't already know in regards to all players but especially Viney.

Why is there such a lack of transparency with reporting injuries at our club? Why so coy?

Nobody knows anything more than the fact his foot is 'sore'.

I don't get why they bother doing video injury report updates. 

[Redleg 40,444]

1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Would love to know why Burgan/Misson did their injury report video this week. 

Literally told us nothing we don't already know in regards to all players but especially Viney.

Why is there such a lack of transparency with reporting injuries at our club? Why so coy?

Nobody knows anything more than the fact his foot is 'sore'.

I don't get why they bother doing video injury report updates. 

It's so you can be confused visually, instead of just audibly or in print.

Edited August 24, 2017 by Redleg

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6 hours ago, Demon17 said:

At last. I also thought it was me.  I watched Tyson do an individual skills/ball handling warm up at the G last week and just reflected that he seems to get the ball a lot in traffic and links well getting the ball out. That's his strong suit.  Granted the team needs outsiders  and that's not his forte but gee, he's not Robinson Crusoe either in clangers.

 

I'm almost 99% sure Tyson is in our top 5 for least likely to get dropped.