Who pays these blokes?

[dazzledavey36 55,912]

Was reading an article about the highlights from the weekend and was shaking my head in disbelief when i read this.

Christian Petracca is a jet
The Melbourne midfielder came out of the same draft as Western Bulldogs gun Marcus Bontempelli – and was actually picked two selections ahead – but started at AFL level a year later courtesy of an ACL tear. We saw that Bontempelli's second season is when he became a star and Petracca is tracking the same way. On Saturday against Carlton at Casey Fields he kicked four goals from 19 possessions. There were midfield cameos but he was at his best across half-forward where he made every touch count. 

Its unbelievable that some of these so called journos on a regular basis get information wrong which proves they do bugger all research.

In the Bontempelli draft, pick 2 was actually Jack Billings. 

[DemonLad5 1,642]

9 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Was reading an article about the highlights from the weekend and was shaking my head in disbelief when i read this.

Christian Petracca is a jet
The Melbourne midfielder came out of the same draft as Western Bulldogs gun Marcus Bontempelli – and was actually picked two selections ahead – but started at AFL level a year later courtesy of an ACL tear. We saw that Bontempelli's second season is when he became a star and Petracca is tracking the same way. On Saturday against Carlton at Casey Fields he kicked four goals from 19 possessions. There were midfield cameos but he was at his best across half-forward where he made every touch count. 

Its unbelievable that some of these so called journos on a regular basis get information wrong which proves they do bugger all research.

In the Bontempelli draft, pick 2 was actually Jack Billings. 

It was actually Josh Kelly. Billings was 3. But I agree 

[dazzledavey36 55,912]

5 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

It was actually Josh Kelly. Billings was 3. But I agree 

My mistake.

[daisycutter 29,894]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

My mistake.

you're excused dazzle. you're not getting paid to post 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

My mistake.

Who's paying you?

[Sir Why You Little 37,322]

The AFL is now just too big. I think Demonland is a far bettter place to keep up to date with what is going on. 

This site is not always right straight away but after discussion and debate it usually gets to the right spot

AFL journalists seem to get background from anywhere quite often

[CBDees 3,167]

47 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

It was actually Josh Kelly. Billings was 3. But I agree 

Using the pick we swapped for Tyson (& Salem)! A Win-Win all around! (As was Petracca and Brayshaw using our Frawley compensation!)

[biggestred 5,245]

It says 2 picks ahead of bont. Not pick 2

[Fatman Blues 30]

I'm not the smartest bloke and I'm the first to admit that.

The Bont was taken pick four in the 2013 draft and CP5 pick two in the 2014 draft

Well, that's what I am reading in wikipedia

Luckily, none of you are journalists - or maybe you should be

[Chris 2,892]

2 minutes ago, Fatman Blues said:

I'm not the smartest bloke and I'm the first to admit that.

The Bont was taken pick four in the 2013 draft and CP5 pick two in the 2014 draft

Well, that's what I am reading in wikipedia

Luckily, none of you are journalists - or maybe you should be

So the journo was right, the Bont was taken 2 picks behind Petracca, they just forgot it was 2 picks behind and 12 months before Petracca. 

[C.Smoker Champion 40]

I don't believe anything till Fox news tells me it's true.

[Demon trucker 1,800]

6 hours ago, C.Smoker Champion said:

I don't believe anything till Fox news tells me it's true.

It all fake news only Trump knows the truth about everything 

[mo64 5,883]

Give the journo a break. It's just alternative facts.

[monoccular 17,655]

6 hours ago, C.Smoker Champion said:

I don't believe anything till Fox news tells me it's true.

 

18 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

It all fake news only Trump knows the truth about everything 

Beat me to it

I was going to say all is pending confirmation of the facts by The Donald.

[Watts the matter 1,235]

9 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Was reading an article about the highlights from the weekend and was shaking my head in disbelief when i read this.

Christian Petracca is a jet
The Melbourne midfielder came out of the same draft as Western Bulldogs gun Marcus Bontempelli – and was actually picked two selections ahead – but started at AFL level a year later courtesy of an ACL tear. We saw that Bontempelli's second season is when he became a star and Petracca is tracking the same way. On Saturday against Carlton at Casey Fields he kicked four goals from 19 possessions. There were midfield cameos but he was at his best across half-forward where he made every touch count. 

Its unbelievable that some of these so called journos on a regular basis get information wrong which proves they do bugger all research.

In the Bontempelli draft, pick 2 was actually Jack Billings. 

Was there? I don't remember him in the midfield at any stage. Unless they are referring to him starting at HB, which I doubt they even noticed.

It's hard to find an article without a mistake like this between the papers and the afl site.

[hemingway 7,633]

Calling them journalists does a disservice to all genuine journalists. The greats of the past must turn in their graves. They are paid to write stories and have no concern about their sources or the accuracy of the information.  They are inept and lazy. Just think about it. If they were good journos would they be footy scribes. Like seagulls scrabbling for a feed. 

[Demons2riseagain 36]

7 hours ago, CBDees said:

Using the pick we swapped for Tyson (& Salem)! A Win-Win all around! (As was Petracca and Brayshaw using our Frawley compensation!)

Pettracca for Frawley = bargain

[Moonshadow 17,678]

1 hour ago, Demons2riseagain said:

Pettracca for Frawley = bargain

Hawks would also be saying "FA Frawley for nothing = bargain"

[CBDees 3,167]

That's why it is Win-Win!

[In Harmes Way 7,840]

The journo should have quit while he was ahead - Christian Petracca IS a jet.

no further analysis required

[dazzledavey36 55,912]

4 hours ago, Watts the matter said:

Was there? I don't remember him in the midfield at any stage. Unless they are referring to him starting at HB, which I doubt they even noticed.

It's hard to find an article without a mistake like this between the papers and the afl site.

1st qtr i saw him line up in the center for a bounce but yes i think he was up forward all day.

[praha 11,253]

I actually did an internship at a rather large Melbourne newspaper (it's not the one you think) and was rather gobsmacked at not just the general lack of research being put into developing stories, but also the lack of knowledge a lot of the journalists had on how to actually research. One source I recommended for a story -- which was a medical journal -- was dismissed by a senior editor because it was sourced by an article on Wikipedia. It wasn't *on* Wikipedia; it was sourced on it.

In another case, I questioned the date of a special event, 100% certain the date proposed during the briefing was wrong but I pretended I wasn't sure so I didn't seem like a know-it-all. The editor completely dismissed it and didn't even double check. It went to print and turns out my date was correct. In another case, the social media editor, whose role was nothing other than to come up with snazzy headlines and images for the social media profiles, had to subedit a journalist's article on a new Apple product because it was riddled with errors.

It gets worse: a major court case taking place at the time created a lot of tension in the office. One journo in particular was getting angry at the department editors because they were clearly driving a campaign, when the journalist suggested they should have been supporting the defendant if they were going to advocate (it was a civil case). The coverage was so narky and lacking in facts that 2 journalists actually resigned. One article in particular had to be retracted and the parent company was fined for contempt of court, despite numerous complaints by journalists that the coverage was unethical.

All in all the two-week internship quite literally turned me off working on *that* sort of media environment. The place was depressing af.

Edited February 27, 2017 by praha

[monoccular 17,655]

15 hours ago, hemingway said:

Calling them journalists does a disservice to all genuine journalists. The greats of the past must turn in their graves. They are paid to write stories and have no concern about their sources or the accuracy of the information.  They are inept and lazy. Just think about it. If they were good journos would they be footy scribes. Like seagulls scrabbling for a feed. 

So eloquently stated, as only you can Ernest. 

[rjay 25,307]

I posted this on the game day thread but it's probably more suited here....

Not sure if anyone heard the commentary on SEN but I thought Chris Connelly as special comments man was hilarious.

We've got a couple of new players which is great...Slalom apparently went alright yesterday and Gartlett is due back soon.

What I loved the most was that I'm pretty sure Chris was improvising a lot on players that he hadn't seen play much footy last year.

One example was how Slalom developed a lot of his game last year learning to play a defensive role at half back. Funny, I thought he missed a lot of the season and when at half back it was the defensive side of his game that was lacking.

Then he went on a rave about a Blue boy who's name escapes me know, he was just throwing stuff out there. The one about Murphy (who missed a lot of last year and has always been a good kick) getting his field kicking together last year was another beauty.

He's quick on his feet and if you didn't know better you might think he brings some insight...seriously Chris you're entertaining but do some homework.

Think Dermott without the homework....and that's what we got yesterday.

...let me add one more; he thought Tommy Mac was AA full back last year, when challenged finally he said something along the line of maybe he should have been.

[hemingway 7,633]

12 hours ago, rjay said:

I posted this on the game day thread but it's probably more suited here....

Not sure if anyone heard the commentary on SEN but I thought Chris Connelly as special comments man was hilarious.

We've got a couple of new players which is great...Slalom apparently went alright yesterday and Gartlett is due back soon.

What I loved the most was that I'm pretty sure Chris was improvising a lot on players that he hadn't seen play much footy last year.

One example was how Slalom developed a lot of his game last year learning to play a defensive role at half back. Funny, I thought he missed a lot of the season and when at half back it was the defensive side of his game that was lacking.

Then he went on a rave about a Blue boy who's name escapes me know, he was just throwing stuff out there. The one about Murphy (who missed a lot of last year and has always been a good kick) getting his field kicking together last year was another beauty.

He's quick on his feet and if you didn't know better you might think he brings some insight...seriously Chris you're entertaining but do some homework.

Think Dermott without the homework....and that's what we got yesterday.

...let me add one more; he thought Tommy Mac was AA full back last year, when challenged finally he said something along the line of maybe he should have been.

I'm sure Chris is a really nice guy and a great raconteur, unfortunately, he is a motor mouth, and that was to our detriment a few years ago.

Best heard in a public bar.

Not the reflective type I'm afraid.  

Although he is not alone. Dwayne comes to mind.