3 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

This is such an ignorant comment but I can't be bothered giving a detailed response other than to say while Craig was there we played finals 7 of about 11 years while he was doing the job that is now covered by at least 3 people - Taylor, Viney, O'Donnell. I'm not sure how many full time recruiters we have now but Craig had no full time help.

In the first rookie draft he picked Junior, Nathan Bassett, Daniel Ward, Matthew Bishop and Russell Robertson. Not a bad collection that.

 

And in the 1999 draft when he was hampered through Melbourne losing its first round pick (salary cap breach), he drafted future captain Brad Green (19), Paul Wheatley (20), Michael Clark (42 as f/s),  Matthew Whelan (50), Shannon O'Brien (63) and Cameron Bruce (64). Not a bad collection either.

 

Cameron Bruce at 64 is pretty bloody good

I do not understand how a club could go 'oh look at Barry's record at Melbourne, he will be a great addition'.

If I was that bad at my job I don't think I could get another job anywhere reputable. 

God I wish during that period the club just consulted a Demonland vote for each pick- we would have done better.

North wouldn't have to look far on the due diligence side of things. They did pick up one of our discards by the name of Gysberts who was originally drafted by BP.

bahahaha....idiots.

Must have got a reference from Lucas Cook.

Re: Craig Cameron, he had one stellar draft in 1999 and was mostly ok for the rest of his time with us, but continuously failed to find the tall forward target we needed to succeed Neitz. Also burned good draft picks in trades for player who weren't really that great.

As for Prendergast... 2008 to 2011... what a ride.

Although we should be fair, his only misses in the earlier picks were Blease, Strauss, Gysberts, Tapscott, and Cook.... so, barely more than 1 fluffed first-round pick per draft.

 

But let's just take a moment to reflect on how much better things have gone recently.

 

 

Didnt Gys end up at Norf? They must have been blown away by Barry's "gift" after seeing the great string arms in the flesh.

I genuinely can't believe this.

In terms of amazing, it's on par with the moon landing.

 

5 hours ago, Biffen said:

Choc Royal is looking for a gig too !!!!

Better get that signature quick Norf.

Cuddles Connolly looking for a PR gig too, Biff.  Reckon Norf will become the club of our old old boys club.

All Barry has to do is pretend it's opposite day - every day.

5 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

And in the 1999 draft when he was hampered through Melbourne losing its first round pick (salary cap breach), he drafted future captain Brad Green (19), Paul Wheatley (20), Michael Clark (42 as f/s),  Matthew Whelan (50), Shannon O'Brien (63) and Cameron Bruce (64). Not a bad collection either.

 

Very true WJ, although he lived off that draft a little. He made some big errors in the superdraft of 2001, but on the whole he drafted pretty well. 

I believe he was at North before he came across to the D's.

anyway, they are welcome to him and it's a bit of payback.

 

North Melbourne...the new Melbourne.

Edited February 17, 20178 yr by Ethan Tremblay

My post was cruel

I have deleted it

You will never know 

But gee .... I mean ...... wow 

Edited February 17, 20178 yr by Bigred

6 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Re: Craig Cameron, he had one stellar draft in 1999 and was mostly ok for the rest of his time with us, but continuously failed to find the tall forward target we needed to succeed Neitz. Also burned good draft picks in trades for player who weren't really that great.

As for Prendergast... 2008 to 2011... what a ride.

Although we should be fair, his only misses in the earlier picks were Blease, Strauss, Gysberts, Tapscott, and Cook.... so, barely more than 1 fluffed first-round pick per draft.

 

But let's just take a moment to reflect on how much better things have gone recently.

 

 

So, barely more than every single first round pick he made was a disaster?

 

Yeah, fair enough, he was pretty good then.

17 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Like anyone associated from that time at Melbourne you never know how much was there fault and how much was other peoples and part of the culture of failure.

Got some decent late picks with Gawn and Jetta, even big Fitz offers more than most late kopicks. Scully and Trengove were no brainers if we didn't like Dustin Martin. Watts might even have been the right choice if developed properly. Gysberts had the talent.

 

??? Sorry, come again!

 

Watts now looks like a great choice, though I agree that he may be even further ahead with better early development. Appart from Nic Nat, (who may well have got go home syndrome), who was the other stand out?  Nic NAT would be almost redundant now big bearded one has turned it on and stayed injury free.

Edited February 17, 20178 yr by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

4 hours ago, ProDee said:

All Barry has to do is pretend it's opposite day - every day.

Now that might just work! 

12 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Re: Craig Cameron, he had one stellar draft in 1999 and was mostly ok for the rest of his time with us, but continuously failed to find the tall forward target we needed to succeed Neitz. Also burned good draft picks in trades for player who weren't really that great.

As for Prendergast... 2008 to 2011... what a ride.

Although we should be fair, his only misses in the earlier picks were Blease, Strauss, Gysberts, Tapscott, and Cook.... so, barely more than 1 fluffed first-round pick per draft.

 

But let's just take a moment to reflect on how much better things have gone recently.

 

 

I trust you were being facetious with that line LG. After all, on average clubs only get one first-round pick per draft so fluffing barely more than one per draft is an unmitigated disaster.

Of course, it's possible to mount an argument that most of those fluffed picks were double fluffs. For example, picking Blease was one error, not picking Hanneberry or Sloane was another.

Anyway, BP's days at Melbourne are long gone. What must have impressed the Kangaroo hierarchy was the way he performed his role at Carlton where he spent the past five years at Carlton working in the coaching department as an opposition analyst.

Oops.

Who really cares . It's North....who are going south !!

18 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Who really cares . It's North....who are going south !!

To Tassie.

BP-The Quiet Non-achiever

I have to disagree with the topic heading.

The 'best news ever' would be the newspaper article "In game 250 Hogan drives Powerhouse Dees to 15th Premiership"

12 hours ago, faultydet said:

So, barely more than every single first round pick he made was a disaster?

 

Yeah, fair enough, he was pretty good then.

 

5 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I trust you were being facetious with that line LG. After all, on average clubs only get one first-round pick per draft so fluffing barely more than one per draft is an unmitigated disaster.

Of course, it's possible to mount an argument that most of those fluffed picks were double fluffs. For example, picking Blease was one error, not picking Hanneberry or Sloane was another.

Anyway, BP's days at Melbourne are long gone. What must have impressed the Kangaroo hierarchy was the way he performed his role at Carlton where he spent the past five years at Carlton working in the coaching department as an opposition analyst.

Oops.

 

Yeah, I kind of figured the scale of the debacle would speak on behalf of the sarcasm. I keep forgetting how the wildness of some people's sincerely held beliefs make it very hard to track irony or sarcasm here!

 

Looking at it another way, Prendergasts only 'successful' (to varying degrees) first round picks were picks where nobody else had a chance before him. 1. Watts. 1. Scully. 2. Trengove. Every other round 1 pick didn't make it.

2008 will always be the one that got away, though. Possibly the best draft pool ever. Of the top 20 picks, only four are not still on AFL lists (including Blease and Strauss). of the next 20 picks, only another 4 (including Bennell).

I'm not usually into the cherry-picking 'we could have had x instead of y' draft grumbling, but when you waste two picks at 17 and 19, and the next two rounds are so packed full of talent you could assemble a convincing premiership list from them, that gets annoying. So anyway, here it is, the Barry Predergast Memorial starting 18 from only rounds 2 and 3 of the 2008 draft.

F:        Ballantyne         Stanley              Walters               

HF:     Shiels               Trengove            Motlop

C:      Zaharakis            Beams               Redden

HB:     Wright                                          Broadbent

B:      Suban              Roughead             Hunt

Foll:   Z.Clarke      Sloane      Hannebery      Robinson

 

Have fun, North.