FA & Trade Whispers

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11 hours ago, AngryAtCasey said:

What are our thoughts on Amon as a cheap pick up for some outside run?

I'm not for it. From what I've seen he shies away from the hard stuff and doesn't like getting his knees dirty. Good with ball in hand but a bit soft

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Lions have apparently gone cold on Dunn, because they have Jack Frost. Unintended pun.

Not the worst thing to keep Dunn, who like Pedo, can also be a swing man in a number of positions and can kick a long goal as well.

That said I hope we can find a new home for Garland.

PS. I hope Grimes gets a new gig, he deserves another chance.

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With GWS losing $1.1m in salary cap and having to reduce list size, I hope we are targeting someone on their list. Other clubs seem to be. Of course no point just getting a dud for the sake of getting someone, but they have lots of talent not getting a game. 

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6 minutes ago, Redleg said:

With GWS losing $1.1m in salary cap and having to reduce list size, I hope we are targeting someone on their list. Other clubs seem to be. Of course no point just getting a dud for the sake of getting someone, but they have lots of talent not getting a game. 

Spot on. We've strategically built a good trade relationship with them, and with so many good draft picks still for them to use they will need to either trade out a fair few or possibly trade multiple picks for single higher picks IMO. Mahoney has shown he's the master of these kind of deals so wouldn't be surprised to see us do something with them, possibly even for a future pick so GWS can space out their additions and we can get more involved in this draft. Plus, I feel like because of who and where they are they would have to overpay more often than other clubs, so the cap space could become a really big issue for them, hopefully.

 

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I know it would be really tough to pull off, but i'd be putting a good financial offer infront of Jacob hopper or Josh Kelly and just seeing if it tempts them, the drawback of having the level of talent the Giants do is they can't pay them all, Josh Kelly is exactly the type of player our club needs, i know it'd be vitually impossible but there are some very good young players at the Giants and if you rattle the tree something is bound to fall out. 

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7 minutes ago, Abe said:

I know it would be really tough to pull off, but i'd be putting a good financial offer infront of Jacob hopper or Josh Kelly and just seeing if it tempts them, the drawback of having the level of talent the Giants do is they can't pay them all, Josh Kelly is exactly the type of player our club needs, i know it'd be vitually impossible but there are some very good young players at the Giants and if you rattle the tree something is bound to fall out. 

I'd love to get josh Kelly for no other reason than to shut up the haters that said we gave up the chance to get him when we traded pick 2 I think it was to secure Tyson and Salem 

 

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17 minutes ago, demonoid said:

I'd love to get josh Kelly for no other reason than to shut up the haters that said we gave up the chance to get him when we traded pick 2 I think it was to secure Tyson and Salem 

 

I reckon had we kept pick 2 we would have taken the Bont anyways, i heard Roosy at a function after barretts comments talking about how we didn't rate Kelly at pick 2, and then went on to talk about how he felt big midfielders were the future of the AFL

having said that he's never going to get the $$ at GWS that he might get elsewhere so it's definitely worth asking the question of a few of these guys, because they're loaded with top end talent and can't hold on to it all. 

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20 minutes ago, demonoid said:

I'd love to get josh Kelly for no other reason than to shut up the haters that said we gave up the chance to get him when we traded pick 2 I think it was to secure Tyson and Salem 

 

The Bont went pick 4.

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4 minutes ago, Abe said:

I reckon had we kept pick 2 we would have taken the Bont anyways, i heard Roosy at a function after barretts comments talking about how we didn't rate Kelly at pick 2, and then went on to talk about how he felt big midfielders were the future of the AFL

having said that he's never going to get the $$ at GWS that he might get elsewhere so it's definitely worth asking the question of a few of these guys, because they're loaded with top end talent and can't hold on to it all. 

TBH I don't think we had Bont that high.  Billings would likely have been the pick if we held onto pick 2.

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1 minute ago, ChaserJ said:

TBH I don't think we had Bont that high.  Billings would likely have been the pick if we held onto pick 2.

I've also heard we highly rated Matt Scharenberg

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10 minutes ago, Abe said:

I've also heard we highly rated Matt Scharenberg

Funny this, because I heard we were taking Salem without any doubt. Hence why we didn't mind shuffling back a few picks. 

Apparently one of our leading scouts watched 15 games of Salem live over 2 seasons. That same scout was adamant we select hunt , which if I'm correct was the same draft?

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6 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Funny this, because I heard we were taking Salem without any doubt. Hence why we didn't mind shuffling back a few picks. 

Apparently one of our leading scouts watched 15 games of Salem live over 2 seasons. That same scout was adamant we select hunt , which if I'm correct was the same draft?

Would have been, as they played school footy together. 

Kelly also played in that team 

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1 hour ago, stuie said:

Spot on. We've strategically built a good trade relationship with them, and with so many good draft picks still for them to use they will need to either trade out a fair few or possibly trade multiple picks for single higher picks IMO. Mahoney has shown he's the master of these kind of deals so wouldn't be surprised to see us do something with them, possibly even for a future pick so GWS can space out their additions and we can get more involved in this draft. Plus, I feel like because of who and where they are they would have to overpay more often than other clubs, so the cap space could become a really big issue for them, hopefully.

 

If we did any deal I imagine it'll be for a fringe player they might get rid of anyway, or potentially a player who has been on the outer for injury reasons and now sees themselves as back in the pack.

Maybe someone like Jarrod Pickett, who was pick 4, but has been out all year with a foot injury (caveat emptor) but was rated very highly for his run and spread in his draft year. Not sure how we'd get him, maybe a swap of our 2017 first rounders (given GWS see themselves as top end contenders). Otherwise we have little or no currency to give up. 

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31 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Would have been, as they played school footy together. 

Kelly also played in that team 

Get the gang back together...

Salem, Hunt & Kelly.

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40 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Funny this, because I heard we were taking Salem without any doubt. Hence why we didn't mind shuffling back a few picks. 

Apparently one of our leading scouts watched 15 games of Salem live over 2 seasons. That same scout was adamant we select hunt , which if I'm correct was the same draft?

Extend the scout's contract now.

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Is it me or apart of Hibberd, does it sounds like we're going to have a very quite trade/FA period?

Is it a case of we're comfortable with what we have available? I feel like we're still lacking in a bit of outside run and that's something we should be targeting. 

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1 minute ago, Pates said:

Is it me or apart of Hibberd, does it sounds like we're going to have a very quite trade/FA period?

Is it a case of we're comfortable with what we have available? I feel like we're still lacking in a bit of outside run and that's something we should be targeting. 

With Hibberd and Melksham coming in to play HB I wouldn't mind betting Hunt, Salem, Harmes, Stretch will be looked at for outside run.  All good options IMO

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1 minute ago, hells bells said:

With Hibberd and Melksham coming in to play HB I wouldn't mind betting Hunt, Salem, Harmes, Stretch will be looked at for outside run.  All good options IMO

Not sure about Harmes and Salem in terms of outside run. Both a bit slow i reckon and Harmes' kicking a worry. I reckon Salem an inside mid and Harmes a half forward flanker is the go.

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I would be targetting the Suns to try to get a early draft pick they have quite a few and may want to actually swap some for either next year or more mature players to help them rise next year. I doubt they want to use all of their draft picks onh young players that would leave them with a very youthful and inexperienced team. 

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On 08/09/2016 at 10:23 AM, Hell Bent said:

Why would we want to give Essendon a boost in the draft order? Stuff `em they can have 27!

 

Yep P27 to bummers, get it over & done with early.

Then move on our other trade interests like Garland (if true) & P45 to Lions, for P29, or a player that suits us?

or Dunn's trade.

Dawes if any interest?

On 08/09/2016 at 11:29 AM, Abe said:

I've heard from a mate ( no idea of reliability ) that the Doggies might be interested in Lynden Dunn, they want to add an experienced key defender at the right price.

I could imagine Dunn's speed mobility could interest the Doggies style of play.  Even for depth as they are seen as In the Window.

 

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37 minutes ago, rjay said:

Get the gang back together...

Salem, Hunt & Kelly.

Playing with their other schoolmates, Watts and (if he stays on the list) Dawes.  (Maybe MFC can align with the Old Brighton Grammerians and take off a Premiership, something we failed to do with Casey?)

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1 hour ago, Red and Blue realist said:

If we did any deal I imagine it'll be for a fringe player they might get rid of anyway, or potentially a player who has been on the outer for injury reasons and now sees themselves as back in the pack.

Maybe someone like Jarrod Pickett, who was pick 4, but has been out all year with a foot injury (caveat emptor) but was rated very highly for his run and spread in his draft year. Not sure how we'd get him, maybe a swap of our 2017 first rounders (given GWS see themselves as top end contenders). Otherwise we have little or no currency to give up. 

Yes I'd be interested in Jarrod Pickett, if we could negotiate an outcome.

Maybe a swap of future 2017 1st Rnd draft picks,  plus our future 2017 2nd Rnd pick ?

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26 minutes ago, binman said:

Not sure about Harmes and Salem in terms of outside run. Both a bit slow i reckon and Harmes' kicking a worry. I reckon Salem an inside mid and Harmes a half forward flanker is the go.

I think Salem would be wasted as an inside mid, his kicking skills are too good to have him just bashing it on the foot out of a contest. You are right though that he may not be quick enough for out side run. 

I would love to see him play on the outside but as the distributor, You can have Oliver and co int eh contest to get it out to Salem who then nails a pass to the true outside pace of Hunt. I guess this would make Salem an outside mid, but not an outside runner.  

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1 minute ago, Chris said:

I think Salem would be wasted as an inside mid, his kicking skills are too good to have him just bashing it on the foot out of a contest. You are right though that he may not be quick enough for out side run. 

I would love to see him play on the outside but as the distributor, You can have Oliver and co int eh contest to get it out to Salem who then nails a pass to the true outside pace of Hunt. I guess this would make Salem an outside mid, but not an outside runner.  

Your right I actually think Salem will get away with the perceived lack of speed because he's got really good footy smarts - similar to Mitchell of Hawthorn - in that he reads the play so well he'll put himself in the right spots so will seem to have more space than his speed allows. Back on topic, Kelly is one GWS won't part with, so it'd be great to get the school mates together but I can't see it unless we finish bottom 4 and he requests a trade next year.

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12 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Yes I'd be interested in Jarrod Pickett, if we could negotiate an outcome.

Maybe a swap of future 2017 1st Rnd draft picks,  plus our future 2017 2nd Rnd pick ?

Would hope we might be able to go to them without even using the 2nd round pick, will depend on how much they need to clear out of their cap and where they perceive we'll finish next year. Pickett would be my ideal target for this, but the same could be used for Barrett, WHE, Stewart, Steele or similar, although I'm sure they rate most of those guys much higher than what they'll accept in the end.