Steven Motlop

[Ted Lasso 18,914]

Just now, AngryAtCasey said:

Tigers massive winners & Crows massive loosers if that were to occur.

They would know they'd have to cough up a first rounder, so i think regardless that's the price they'd expect to have to pay to get Motlop

[Pennant St Dee 12,811]

1 minute ago, Abe said:

They would know they'd have to cough up a first rounder, so i think regardless that's the price they'd expect to have to pay to get Motlop

Why would they do it young Millera will be a better player long term because he possesses an appetite for hard work. On top of that Betts and Cameron are their current small forwards.  The Crows are aware they need midfield depth and they would also be aware Motlop is not the player they need

[Ted Lasso 18,914]

Just now, Pennant St Dee said:

Why would they do it young Millera will be a better player long term because he possesses an appetite for hard work. On top of that Betts and Cameron are their current small forwards.  The Crows are aware they need midfield depth and they would also be aware Motlop is not the player they need

Not sure, but they were all over him last year despite knowing they were likely bringing in Milera so i can only imagine that opinion won't have changed. 

[rjay 24,689]

Word is the Cats are letting Motlop go.

...now to me that means he doesn't have the currency to warrant a first round pick and his prelim form seems to back that up.

[Dr evil 1,185]

After being told several times to improve his professionalism last year he turned up to pre season training this year overweight and unfit, 

his form this year has been well below the expectations of a player on his money and of his talent and i've also heard and i am sure others will confirm that he's not well liked within the group. He's not the sort of influence we want anywhere near our talented young group, i think recruiting him could be an awful decision. 

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

I'd like him.

For the right deal.

 

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11 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I'd like him.

For the right deal.

What's the right deal RB?

Motlop & Kersten for a 2017 2nd round pick and other pick swapping shenanigans like our 3rd for their 4th?

Which then frees us up to trade Dawes, Dunn and Steak Knives to Brisbane for Pearce Hanley?  or Dawes to WCE (instead of Petrie) 

Edited September 28, 2016 by DominatrixTyson

[Lord Travis 10,542]

I'd take him if he didn't cost much. A change of environment and coaching staff might get him back on track. If he could regain his 2015 form he'd become a march winner and be exact type of outside class and goal kicking power we need. If Geelong shop him off cheap we should grab him. Not for a first rounder though.

Edited September 28, 2016 by Lord Travis

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Exactly the player we need, just needs a good Viney right hook the jaw to stop him from being so lazy. Which I'm sure he'd receive 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

His best is brilliant but he was a liability against Sydney and almost cost Geelong the game against Hawthorn.

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18 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

His best is brilliant but he was a liability against Sydney and almost cost Geelong the game against Hawthorn.

As they won by two points. His first shot on the boundary was the matchwinner, his second unnecessary shot was the liability that almost cost them the game. If he didn't take the risk of  shooting for the 7 point win or missing for a 2point lead with hawk kick in, then he gambles on a throw-in on two occasions with the lead at 1 point. I think everyone knew the Hawks would have the last shot on goal, and so that one behind he kicked was vital.

Edited September 28, 2016 by DominatrixTyson

[Mickey 4,529]

One of the non-negotiable of the last few years for our recruiters has been competitiveness. I doubt Motlop fits the bill

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16 minutes ago, Mickey said:

One of the non-negotiable of the last few years for our recruiters has been competitiveness. I doubt Motlop fits the bill

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the Cats don't have many indigenous afl players. Our club does, we also have a leader in Neville Jetta. We may have the right club environment for him to fit in and work hard amongst his peers. We did for Jeff Garlett.

Edited September 28, 2016 by DominatrixTyson

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,397]

1 hour ago, jeck wartz said:

After being told several times to improve his professionalism last year he turned up to pre season training this year overweight and unfit, 

his form this year has been well below the expectations of a player on his money and of his talent and i've also heard and i am sure others will confirm that he's not well liked within the group. He's not the sort of influence we want anywhere near our talented young group, i think recruiting him could be an awful decision. 

All sounds pretty believable.

Similar reports were made about Jeff Garlett;but he came a lot cheaper than Motlop would. .

[Glenn Molloy 494]

I do worry that if Geelong isn't the right environment for him, how is ours going to be better?  One thing that you can't query with the Cats is their leadership and culture.

As others have noted, his type is exactly what we need...but gee he can go missing.  He had an ordinary finals series but I remember his 2011 finals series was superb and he had a damn good year last year.  I'm pretty sure the Cats signed him  to a good deal last year so he would not only cost a first rounder but a fair chunk of salary, although we must have loads of cap space for the next couple of years.  

 

[Deeoldfart 8,001]

A big 'no' from me.  Doesn't seem to understand the "non negotiables" of playing at the highest level.

[DeeSpencer 24,973]

14 minutes ago, DominatrixTyson said:

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the Cats don't have many indigenous afl players. Our club does, we also have a leader in Neville Jetta. We may have the right club environment for him to fit in and work hard amongst his peers. We did for Jeff Garlett.

They've had Varcoe, Stokes and Christensen whilst Motlop has been there.

I think it's a bad generalisation to suggest a senior Indigenous player can turn around others. No doubt it could help but every player is still different and I don't think just because of their race you can group them together.

Garlett needed a fresh start and had a great 2015 but he was shocking this year. 

Motlop was certainly overweight in preseason but his first 6 weeks or so of this year were fantastic. His decision making and effort just seemed to spiral off as the season went on. 

Whilst Motlop at his best would bring a lot of speed and skill to our team I don't think he's a priority. He isn't a hard running wingman nor is he a forward pressure player. He's kind of an inbetween forward/midfielder and I like the options we have there with rotating mids like the Dogs do.

[Diamond_Jim 12,395]

Did we not just give Garlett a three year contract.

Hard to see room for both Motlop and Garlett.

[DemonLad5 1,642]

No more than a second rounder for me. If we can get him for that then I'd be into it 

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26 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

They've had Varcoe, Stokes and Christensen whilst Motlop has been there.

I think it's a bad generalisation to suggest a senior Indigenous player can turn around others. No doubt it could help but every player is still different and I don't think just because of their race you can group them together.

It's well spoken about by all indigenous players that there is a comraderie and brotherhood with each other. That's not discounting the comraderie they have with non-indigenous players, it's just recognising that they all speak of a special bond with one another. As it stands, Geelong only have a younger player in Nakia Cockatoo. I'm not attributing any turn around solely to indigenous leaders, but it's part of the group dynamic that can help foster a strong culture and Neville Jetta is a community leader and disciplined and consistent afl player who can mentor others in regards to defensive pressure and work ethic.

Edited September 28, 2016 by DominatrixTyson

[Adam The God 29,682]

7 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Did we not just give Garlett a three year contract.

Hard to see room for both Motlop and Garlett.

If we could get him at the right price, we'd have plenty of room for both. Half forward is one of our most troublesome positions IMO. The evidence is the yoyoing of Kennedy, Harmes and evem Gartlett in and out of the senior side. Kent is also not a consistent footballer, but seems to be a favourite of the FD and did kick his PB this year.

I'm a yes on Motlop, but have no idea what we'd trade to get him.

[The Reverend 1,736]

Just another to add to our frustrations. Not required.

[Members' Wing 1,106]

1 hour ago, jeck wartz said:

After being told several times to improve his professionalism last year he turned up to pre season training this year overweight and unfit, 

his form this year has been well below the expectations of a player on his money and of his talent and i've also heard and i am sure others will confirm that he's not well liked within the group. He's not the sort of influence we want anywhere near our talented young group, i think recruiting him could be an awful decision. 

He's very well liked within the playing group. Just loves the [censored] too much.

Edited September 28, 2016 by Members' Wing

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56 minutes ago, Glenn Molloy said:

I do worry that if Geelong isn't the right environment for him, how is ours going to be better?  One thing that you can't query with the Cats is their leadership and culture.

Their culture has been well spoken about over the years, and they've got some wonderful players and experienced heads. But where were all of the players under the top 6 on the weekend, why didn't they show up? You do have to question the leadership of their club if their mid-lower tier of players go missing so often though. Just as we do with the Dees. Do they really have an excellent culture if they're really a 10th placed team without one player? Selwood might lead by example, but he sure does a lot of sooking and complaining to the umpires when things don't go his way. They're not the team they were 5 years ago and have plenty of players who aren't living up to standards consistently.

After their weekend performance, I wouldn't be surprised if they become a mid table side for the next few years, and we accelerate past them.

Edited September 28, 2016 by DominatrixTyson

[whatwhat say what 22,325]

Would like him to come to us but despite his up and down form in 2016 the Cats will inevitably demand a first round pick for him.

 

Is he worth it? Debatable.