Mid-season Trading

[sue 9,106]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-23/midseason-draft-on-the-table-as-afl-clubs-brainstorm-ideas

I can only just handle players coming and going over the summer break, but this would test loyal feelings for a playing group by supporters to the limit.  Where will this madness end - weekly list changes?

[DemonWA 3,934]

yeah I'm not a fan at all. Yet another step from the AFL looking at other sporting comps for inspiration.

I'd love the AFL to put a 3 year freeze on any rule or policy tweaks and just let everyone enjoy the game itself

[Dr. Gonzo 24,216]

I wouldn't be against it necessarily.  Why not? Could help players and clubs .

[SaberFang 7,151]

Would work a treat for struggling clubs like Brisbane and Gold Coast, having their players poached mid-season by clubs trying to reach the top 4 for a premiership tilt.

[Sir Why You Little 37,036]

Just another way to rape and pillage the Bottom 9 Clubs twice a year

 

great idea Gill

thanks

[dazzledavey36 54,938]

Don't mind it at all. We could use a Lachie Henderson or Nathan Brown down back at the moment. Two big body defenders who have had finals and grand finals experience. 

It would be a massive chop out for Tmac and would let Oscar develope at Casey.

[deanox 9,919]

8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Don't mind it at all. We could use a Lachie Henderson or Nathan Brown down back at the moment. Two big body defenders who have had finals and grand finals experience. 

It would be a massive chop out for Tmac and would let Oscar develope at Casey.

Really?  You don't think that if the von actually wanted to pay a different big bodied defender that Dunn or Garland wouldn't get a run? 

 

Its pretty clear those two are being selected on purpose. 

[Nasher 33,616]

8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Don't mind it at all. We could use a Lachie Henderson or Nathan Brown down back at the moment. Two big body defenders who have had finals and grand finals experience. 

It would be a massive chop out for Tmac and would let Oscar develope at Casey.

How about Jesse informing us that he'd like to be traded in round 13?

[Lord Travis 10,730]

Sh*t idea and lower placed clubs like us would get stuck down the bottom even more. Leave the rules alone and make players stay at one f*cking club.

[dazzledavey36 54,938]

8 minutes ago, Nasher said:

How about Jesse informing us that he'd like to be traded in round 13?

Overeacting much..

[dazzledavey36 54,938]

8 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Sh*t idea and lower placed clubs like us would get stuck down the bottom even more. Leave the rules alone and make players stay at one f*cking club.

Il bet you a thousand bucks we won't be classed as a 'Lower placed club' next year...

We will be a destination club very soon.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,053]

The Players' Association is all for it, therefore it's probably a terrible idea.  They don't give a flying fruitbat for the welfare of the competition, they just want more money and power in the hands of the players. 

[deeko 952]

Not a trade period but I wouldn't be against a mid season draft allowing teams to look at the second tier comps for players to fill certain roles in case of injuries etc.

Maybe increase the rookie list to allow another two players to be recruited mid year for example

[hemingway 7,627]

Another way to destroy the fabric and meaning of clubs, player loyalty and emotional investment by supporters. The talk and speculation of players moving clubs would become incessant and demoralising. Bad enough now, would be a nail in the coffin of the important connection of player and club. Clubs and players prostituting themselves for money and the hope of instant success. That would be the end for me. 

[deanox 9,919]

I'd hate it. 

Theory: Can be used to help clubs top up in deficient positions die to injuries

Reality: Top clubs and middle of the range clubs will poach the best players from the bottom clubs when they need them most.  Players would love to go to clubs that play finals. 

 

I don't mind the idea of:

- mid season draft of 2nd tier players

- loaning rookie players on short term contacts (from 6 weeks up til the end of season)

- loaning players who have played less than x games (3?) in the first 11 weeks, and haven't missed due to injury 

[The Chazz 4,077]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Don't mind it at all. We could use a Lachie Henderson or Nathan Brown down back at the moment. Two big body defenders who have had finals and grand finals experience. 

It would be a massive chop out for Tmac and would let Oscar develope at Casey.

 

46 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Overeacting much..

Said the poster who thinks we would get Henderson, a bloke playing his first season at Geelong, who are currently on top, after spending the first stage of his career at a hopeless club.

Dazzle is fast becoming the "new" 'Luded...

[rjay 24,928]

1 hour ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

The Players' Association is all for it, therefore it's probably a terrible idea.  They don't give a flying fruitbat for the welfare of the competition, they just want more money and power in the hands of the players. 

If they're going to make this work then players have to be traded without their consent (mid & end of season trade period). If Dill wants to bring these ideas in then he needs to follow through and do it properly, not be half pregnant...

Lets see if the PA like it then 'Ralph'.

[Willmoy1947 4,088]

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

Another way to destroy the fabric and meaning of clubs, player loyalty and emotional investment by supporters. The talk and speculation of players moving clubs would become incessant and demoralising. Bad enough now, would be a nail in the coffin of the important connection of player and club. Clubs and players prostituting themselves for money and the hope of instant success. That would be the end for me. 

Yes I agree Hem... this and anymore drug related exposés of consequence and I am going to listen hard to what my wife says is "not sport anymore, just money".

[dazzledavey36 54,938]

1 hour ago, billy2803 said:

 

Said the poster who thinks we would get Henderson, a bloke playing his first season at Geelong, who are currently on top, after spending the first stage of his career at a hopeless club.

Dazzle is fast becoming the "new" 'Luded...

Was ment to say Lachie Hansen from North. 

I'm sorry that little mistake i made lead to getting sand right in your knickers.. 

Idiot

[Skuit 10,031]

From the article: 'The AFL last had a mid-season draft in 1993.' I have no recollection of this whatsoever. Can someone refresh my memory? Who was traded and what were the circumstances?

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

5 minutes ago, Skuit said:

From the article: 'The AFL last had a mid-season draft in 1993.' I have no recollection of this whatsoever. Can someone refresh my memory? Who was traded and what were the circumstances?

Vaguely remember it, can't recall any trades associated with it

[SaberFang 7,151]

How does this work in other sports? What exactly can clubs trade? Draft picks for later in the year?

[CBDees 3,167]

3 hours ago, deanox said:

injury 

 

[What 18,810]

Terrible idea and Gil Mclachlan is a total moron.  If you want to be American [censored] off to the U.S.

[nutbean 8,838]

For those of us old enough to remember  - we have had a midseason draft before.

Very little need for panic - very few players left clubs for other clubs. The ones that did were players that were "trash and treasure"  - ( one clubs trash is another clubs treasure). What did transpire is players from the then VFA got drafted in to fill holes caused by injuries. You may see a parting of the ways with a Cloke, if the Pies have no intention of keeping him. 

If it is obvious that we are devoid of say leg speed and we have spotted a Casey boy that we think could make a difference then why not ? The other issue is that it could only really be VFL as they would be the only players fit enough and possibly be able to work out a game plan. The game is much more sophisticated than the "old days". What it could mean though is if we think a VFL player could make it with us long term then maybe you get him in on the list mid year with a view to him being gold in the following seasons. 

There is a problem with the fixed list size. Do you delist a player mid season  and how would that work as they would be contracted.