All aboard the Oliver Express

[Undeeterred 3,123]

Hasn't been the same since he was 'rested'. 

Would be interesting to understand whether he really needed it and hasn't got back up to speed, or didn't need it and we broke his momentum.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

41 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

His output has dropped since the title of this post changed...

 

Change it back.

You could almost say he's lost a little steam..

Maybe it's time to #bringbackthechoo 

[TRIGON 4,783]

An intriguing player to watch. Often looks like he's just executed a 'hospital handpass' but they frequently arrive to a teammate in space. 

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

12 minutes ago, Undeeterred said:

Hasn't been the same since he was 'rested'. 

Would be interesting to understand whether he really needed it and hasn't got back up to speed, or didn't need it and we broke his momentum.

Perhaps it is because he has only done 2/3rds of a pre-season coming off a TAC cup year where he was not even a draft contender for half of it due to his (lack of) conditioning. My professional diagnosis would be he is a bit knackered 

[picket fence 17,068]

50 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

is that a real stat PF?  if so can you link the source, Id love to know what a selfless act means

Check the Hun stats page game that's where I got it from I think he was second or third in thIis category. I think it reaaltes to non rewarded ie not actually taking possesion of the ball but acts which assist in us getting the ball! 

Edited June 14, 2016 by picket fence

[Breggsy 123]

Didn't mind his game yesterday. 5 clearances, 8 tackles and 10 CP is a great return for a 9 gamer.

 Not sure on his Centre bounce attendances but it seemed every time there was a goal kicked he would be coming off the bench straight into the centre. Stats might show we are most potent with him in there 

[dieter 3,325]

5 minutes ago, Breggsy said:

Didn't mind his game yesterday. 5 clearances, 8 tackles and 10 CP is a great return for a 9 gamer.

 Not sure on his Centre bounce attendances but it seemed every time there was a goal kicked he would be coming off the bench straight into the centre. Stats might show we are most potent with him in there 

Don't you worry about Clarrie, he's as much of a gun as Petracca.

[SaberFang 7,151]

He's important to us. Small sample size but we've lost every game he didn't play except vs Richmond.

Edited June 14, 2016 by SaberFang

[What 18,810]

4 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

He's important to us. We've lost every game he didn't play except vs Richmond.

We are 5-4 with CHoo Choo in the side

[Undeeterred 3,123]

16 minutes ago, fndee said:

Perhaps it is because he has only done 2/3rds of a pre-season coming off a TAC cup year where he was not even a draft contender for half of it due to his (lack of) conditioning. My professional diagnosis would be he is a bit knackered 

Yeah, that's a good point. 

[Breggsy 123]

31 minutes ago, dieter said:

Don't you worry about Clarrie, he's as much of a gun as Petracca.

No worries here I love what he's about

[Dees_In_October 3,374]

 

[Mach5 4,767]

His output has dipped slightly of late, but I think it is more the opposition recognising the impact he can have already.

Opponents are showing him more respect, and that's not a bad thing.
He'll only get better.

[picket fence 17,068]

11 hours ago, Dees_In_October said:

 

I luuurve this 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,492]

Still a high qulaity contributor.

Next year, with a little more size and experience, I would love to see him use his evasive skills to gain himself enough time and space to kick the ball a bit more.  He'll tear games apart from the center square.

[ArtificialWisdom 4,045]

16 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Still a high qulaity contributor.

Next year, with a little more size and experience, I would love to see him use his evasive skills to gain himself enough time and space to kick the ball a bit more.  He'll tear games apart from the center square.

Yeah I want to see more kicks, he makes the decision to handball as soon as he gets it even if there is no option. But anyone who can find the ball as much as him is going to be good. Is super clean and finds space where there is none, a fantastic trait. Just needs to add some strings to his bow, kicking being the first.

[Ricky P 757]

If he doesn't improve for the rest of his career he'll be a bloody good player.

[Demon_JB 1,376]

I think you should look at the bigger picture. It's not that Oliver has dropped in terms of his output. It's that the performance of his surrounding midfielders has been significantly lifted. Oliver starred in the first few opening rounds with him appearing in more centre clearances than as of late. Roos is utilising Dom Tyson and Bernie Vince more in the midfield and stoppages, with Vince going up an extra gear that I didn't think was possible. Therefore, requiring less of Clarry at important stoppages and more than likely has less % of game time than previous rounds.

 

It would be very interesting to have some stats around this which would help back up my point. 

 

[Demonsone 2,036]

15 hours ago, Undeeterred said:

Hasn't been the same since he was 'rested'. 

Would be interesting to understand whether he really needed it and hasn't got back up to speed, or didn't need it and we broke his momentum.

Really ... Maybe because his playing game 10 or there abouts, maybe because he's only 18 & done 1 pre season ...

The expectations of supporters from our 1st yr players is ridiculous.. Club is getting a list that will be around for a decade 

Cmon people 

Edited June 15, 2016 by Hogan2014

[Undeeterred 3,123]

13 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

Really ... Maybe because his playing game 10 or there abouts, maybe because he's only 18 & done 1 pre season ...

The expectations of supporters from our 1st yr players is ridiculous.. Club is getting a list that will be around for a decade 

Cmon people 

Perhaps stop assuming that I'm criticising him before you arc up.

Or do you just enjoy inflaming the discussion for no reason?

[picket fence 17,068]

Should be getting a game in front of Brayshaw, who in my view is still not quite right.

Manic attack on the ball should be in the team no doubt!

[mauriesy 7,261]

Needs to maintain the manic attack for longer though.

[Redleg 40,855]

2 hours ago, mauriesy said:

Needs to maintain the manic attack for longer though.

Seems as though they want him to be able to run out games.

Another pre season and he will be a regular. Great hands and vision. Got an edge too.

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

Needs to use his foot more often, he handballs too much.

Next year after a second pre season he will tear it up.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Give me 60% of Oliver over 100% of most others in the team.

Best way to improve fitness is to play in the AFL.