Cam McCarthy takes indefinite leave

[jnrmac 20,061]

Was desperate to go back to WA last year and GWS refused to engage in a discussion. Now he has taken indefinite leave of absence.

Don't know the detail but it must be hard enough for recruiters without having to deal with this kind of thing. Some Gen Z's or whatever they are can't handle the pressure of AFL.

My guess is that we will see an increasing number of them go down this path and clubs be 'forced' into trading them or risk losing them....

 

Edited January 29, 2016 by jnrmac

[stuie 7,374]

Homesick Cam McCarthy granted indefinite leave by the Giants

"GREATER Western Sydney has granted key forward Cam McCarthy indefinite leave to allow him to return to Western Australia.

The 20-year-old is understood to have informed the Giants on Wednesday he was homesick and wanted time with family."

AFL needs to do something about this growing trend of young players holding their clubs to ransom. What is the point of free agency now?

 

[Gator 17,346]

McCarthy is a spoilt sook.  GWS were right not to trade him.  You can't just pick and choose where you'll work when you're under contract.  He knew what was on offer when he entered the draft.

It might have been different if Freo offered anything half decent.  They didn't enhance prospects of a trade. 

[brendan 3,437]

GWS Shoukd have traded him when they had the chance, but saying that what a big sook McCarthy is if you don't want to leave mum for 5 minutes then maybe don't become an AFL player might have been better off staying and playing in the WAFL, I doubt he will play a game this year and freo will pick him up in psd for nothing as no one else will take the risk 

[dazzledavey36 54,925]

He can have all the indefinite leave he wants for all i care.

As long as he doesn't come back before round 1.

[Jaded No More 68,915]

24 minutes ago, ProDee said:

McCarthy is a spoilt sook.  GWS were right not to trade him.  You can't just pick and choose where you'll work when you're under contract.  He knew what was on offer when he entered the draft.

It might have been different if Freo offered anything half decent.  They didn't enhance prospects of a trade. 

 

I agree that is a spoilt sook, but GWS grandstanding on this trade has clearly come back to bite them.

Will leave for the same or less at the end of the year when he's out of contract. 

Edited January 29, 2016 by Jaded

[Gorgoroth 12,950]

For all those saying GWS should have traded him, think what you would say if that was Hogan wanting back to WA.

[Jaded No More 68,915]

9 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

For all those saying GWS should have traded him, think what you would say if that was Hogan wanting back to WA.

Think what we would say if Hogan decided to take a leave of absence because he was too homesick, but we didn't wanna trade him

I'm all for playing hardball with your best players, but if McCartney was so hell bent on leaving for home, and GWS refused, what have they actually gained? 
They are clearly not likely to convince him to stay, and if they thought otherwise, they are obviously delusional. 

[P-man 13,366]

Did Freo not offer two first round picks? Pick 22 and future first rounder is what I read. If true, I think that would classify as half decent.

A show of strength is one thing but this was inevitable when the kid wants to leave that desperately. Now they are a man down and who knows what his value will be come season's end.

What a mess. All part of the circus that is the AFL's brainchild. 

[AzzKikA 2,371]

Aww poor little baby, when little babies throw tanties the best thing to do is give him his teddy bear a bottle and put him down for a nap.

[Deemonator 12]

8 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Think what we would say if Hogan decided to take a leave of absence because he was too homesick, but we didn't wanna trade him

I'm all for playing hardball with your best players, but if McCartney was so hell bent on leaving for home, and GWS refused, what have they actually gained? 
They are clearly not likely to convince him to stay, and if they thought otherwise, they are obviously delusional. 

After the Tom Boyd saga, what they have gained is sending out a message that their not letting their best talents go home after one year. GWS will get burnt in this saga, but what sort of message would it be sending to current players and prospective players if they gave in to McCarthey last year.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Was desperate to go back to WA last year and GWS refused to engage in a discussion. Now he has taken indefinite leave of absense.

Don't know the detail but it must be hard enough for recruiters without having to deal with this kind of thing. Some Gen Z's or whatever they are can't handle the pressure of AFL.

My guess is that we will see an increasing number of them go down this path and clubs be 'forced' into trading them or risk losing them....

 

I don't think it just a Gen Z thing. What generation was Anthony Rocca?

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

He is able to play football, get paid and be guaranteed to live in Western Australia, if he joins a WAFL team.

[robbiefrom13 887]

I disagree.  It's a restraint-of-trade thing, I think: the AFL dictates to teenagers who they are allowed to work for - they are like slaves being sold on the block.  

If a boy was "chosen" by Essendon - or GWS for that matter, or anyone who for whatever reason they didn't want to work for - we call him names for not wanting to go there, or stay when the concerned club refuses to trade him.  Have in mind we are talking about someone of outstanding skill - absolute elite in his field; and he has no say over where he works.  Smacks of Stalinist Russia to me, and I will be interested to see one day a legal challenge to this system.

[Willmoy1947 4,086]

Would not be one bit surprised if Bombers have had their fingers in this mishmash already. Told him to go home, lay low, we will take care of everything.

Looking for someone to help Danaher, ready to go and plenty of draft space and money from the AFL 

[KingDingAling 3,758]

19 hours ago, robbiefrom13 said:

I disagree.  It's a restraint-of-trade thing, I think: the AFL dictates to teenagers who they are allowed to work for - they are like slaves being sold on the block.  

If a boy was "chosen" by Essendon - or GWS for that matter, or anyone who for whatever reason they didn't want to work for - we call him names for not wanting to go there, or stay when the concerned club refuses to trade him.  Have in mind we are talking about someone of outstanding skill - absolute elite in his field; and he has no say over where he works.  Smacks of Stalinist Russia to me, and I will be interested to see one day a legal challenge to this system.

McCarthy signed as extension. It is hardly a case of being drafted to GWS and having no choice. He had a choice prior to signing his contract extension.GWS are well within their rights to hold him to his contract finishes. If players don't like that, it is simple, don't sign contract extensions.

[stuie 7,374]

2 minutes ago, robbiefrom13 said:

I disagree.  It's a restraint-of-trade thing, I think: the AFL dictates to teenagers who they are allowed to work for - they are like slaves being sold on the block.  

If a boy was "chosen" by Essendon - or GWS for that matter, or anyone who for whatever reason they didn't want to work for - we call him names for not wanting to go there, or stay when the concerned club refuses to trade him.  Have in mind we are talking about someone of outstanding skill - absolute elite in his field; and he has no say over where he works.  Smacks of Stalinist Russia to me, and I will be interested to see one day a legal challenge to this system.

They're not "like slaves" because slaves don't have the choice of whether they will enter that life or not.

AFL players know what the system is and how it works well before they voluntarily nominate to enter that lifestyle.

You don't sign a contract and then complain about it not being fair, you just don't sign it in the first place.

 

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

GWS did the right thing by not trading him. They set the precedent that Brisbane failed to set in 2013 that seems to have destroyed their culture.

[robbiefrom13 887]

fair points - but it still is not a fair system.  Bit like Essendon players who may not have been too rapt in the jabs - but how can you say "stuff it, I'll just not be part of it"?  They want to play the game, so they put up with terms that are not reasonable.  Well, not reasonable in my opinion.

[mo64 5,874]

6 minutes ago, robbiefrom13 said:

I disagree.  It's a restraint-of-trade thing, I think: the AFL dictates to teenagers who they are allowed to work for - they are like slaves being sold on the block.  

If a boy was "chosen" by Essendon - or GWS for that matter, or anyone who for whatever reason they didn't want to work for - we call him names for not wanting to go there, or stay when the concerned club refuses to trade him.  Have in mind we are talking about someone of outstanding skill - absolute elite in his field; and he has no say over where he works.  Smacks of Stalinist Russia to me, and I will be interested to see one day a legal challenge to this system.

What garbage! He'd signed a contract extension 6 months prior, and nobody put a gun to his head. Good on GWS for playing hardball. If you want a state of origin set-up where every kid gets to play in their home state, say goodbye to the QLD and NSW teams.

[stuie 7,374]

1 minute ago, robbiefrom13 said:

fair points - but it still is not a fair system.  Bit like Essendon players who may not have been too rapt in the jabs - but how can you say "stuff it, I'll just not be part of it"?  They want to play the game, so they put up with terms that are not reasonable.  Well, not reasonable in my opinion.

[DemonOX 8,791]

1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

For all those saying GWS should have traded him, think what you would say if that was Hogan wanting back to WA.

U mean at the end of next season when he wants to go back home!!!

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

10 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

U mean at the end of next season when he wants to go back home!!!

[Mach5 4,767]

41 minutes ago, stuie said:

Courtney Dempsey too for that matter.

[dee-luded 2,959]

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Was desperate to go back to WA last year and GWS refused to engage in a discussion. Now he has taken indefinite leave of absense.

Don't know the detail but it must be hard enough for recruiters without having to deal with this kind of thing. Some Gen Z's or whatever they are can't handle the pressure of AFL.

My guess is that we will see an increasing number of them go down this path and clubs be 'forced' into trading them or risk losing them....

 

oh shittt, I immediately thought of Brendan, & heart skipped a beat.