Christian Petracca's toe injury (in full training)

[old dee 23,998]

I hope you are all right however I cannot understand the confidence many seem to have.

The guy was a very good junior  and we have seen a lot of them end up delisted when they join the big boys.

He has not played a game anywhere since 2014 in the juniors surely that means he is going to take a little time to show his wears at VFL level before he gets a chance at senior level.

He is also coming back from a serious knee injury.

We have seen a number of saviours rushed into the senior side to quickly over the last decade can we please give the kid a chance to find his feet?

Edited March 2, 2016 by old dee

[Its Time for Another 4,301]

35 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

 

Petracca reminds me of Allen Jakovich.  I am sure 'Ill get howled down for that comparison, but Im sticking with it god damn it,.

His build and movement reminds me of Darren Jarman. Of course, given he hasn't played a game of Senior footy yet, I can't talk about how he plays, just who he looks like.

[Gorgoroth 13,184]

I believe Trac will first do some solid weeks of training, play a half for cases, then a full game followed by another and if he plays well in both will be in line for a call up. Round 4-5 would be about what I'd expect if he plays well at Casey.

[What 18,810]

43 minutes ago, nutbean said:

I won't go as far as comparing him to Jakovich ( the good bits of Jakovich not the bad bits ! ) but I think the comparison that they both have/had "X factor" is going to prove right. 

 

I think they also have a similair size and body shape too. Both explosive off the mark and very strong in the body. Big backsides..  Everyone has Petracca pegged as a midfielder but I feel hes going to be an enigmatic  superstar forward much like Jaka.

[Gator 17,967]

34 minutes ago, old dee said:

I hope you are all right however I cannot understand the confidence many seem to have.

The guy was a very good junior  and we have seen a lot of them end up delisted when they join the big boys.

He has not played a game anywhere since 2014 in the juniors surely that means he is going to take a little time to show his wears at VFL level before he gets a chance at senior level.

He is also coming back from a serious knee injury.

We have seen a number of saviours rushed into the senior side to quickly over the last decade can we please give the kid a chance to find his feet?

You're just advertising the fact that you have zero clue about this player.

If you had any understanding of his history or talent you wouldn't post what you have.

[Little Goffy 14,750]

My guess is that each of Petracca, Brayshaw and Trengove will come into the side in a staggered way designed to maximise their usefulness for supercoach teams.

 

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

1 hour ago, Peter Griffen said:

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Trengove i expect no risks, i reckon round 6 is a good aim, i'd want to see a few good VFL hitouts and him force his way into the side.

The Richmond game would be kind of apt

[old dee 23,998]

17 minutes ago, ProDee said:

You're just advertising the fact that you have zero clue about this player.

If you had any understanding of his history or talent you wouldn't post what you have.

Yes all knowing one

[Sir Why You Little 37,294]

59 minutes ago, drdrake said:

I thought we were pasted this sink or swim attitude.  Both him and Trengove need at least 4 matches at lower levels, and if they both start at the same time round 1 VFL or last scratch match VFL, Trengove will earn his spot before him.  Jack Trengove is a gun and if fit and in form will demand a spot.  This kid is a great unknown, good junior but we have seen a number of high pick good juniors.  I hope he comes out and gets best on a couple of weeks in a row in the VFL and demands a spot, but I think it will be Trengove demanding a spot first

But i don't put Trengove and Pettracca in the same category. 

I have said all along i don't think Trenners will play again with the injury he has had

if he does good luck to him, but the stress of full time running in match conditions is still a way off

petracca will play soon

[Gator 17,967]

26 minutes ago, old dee said:

Yes all knowing one

It was a silly comment that I'd expect from a half-interested supporter who rarely attends games and certainly wouldn't post on a footy forum.  And I know that's not the case.

Petracca is a dynamic midfielder, who most experts had as pick one.  He box squats 200kg.  His next senior coach told Wayne Carey he's the best talent he's ever seen (albeit from the training track).  He's quick, strong as a bull, a fantastic mark and kicks 60 metres with ease. 

Like Dustin Martin and Ollie Wines, Petracca will rag doll the "big boys" from day one.  Subject to injury he's as safe a bet as there's going around.

There's a reason we bid on Heeney, who will be a star, there's a reason we bid on Callum Mills, who showed in one game he'll be a star, there's a reason we drafted Brayshaw, who'll be a star, there's a reason we drafted Oliver, who will be a star, and there's a reason we drafted Petracca.  There's a reason he's favourite to win the RS even after his knee and toe.  

Just like we knew Hogan would hit the ground running and become a star, many view Petracca in the same light.  I know I do. 

 

Edited March 2, 2016 by ProDee

[Wormburner 674]

I watched him a bit at training today, and without trying to jinx the kid....but he is good.

Pinpoint kicks, strong frame, appears quick, good leap and can take a grab - watched him take speccies over Crossy who was wearing the mat thing. 

Can't wait to see him out there.

[monoccular 17,642]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

I hope you are all right however I cannot understand the confidence many seem to have.

The guy was a very good junior  and we have seen a lot of them end up delisted when they join the big boys.

He has not played a game anywhere since 2014 in the juniors surely that means he is going to take a little time to show his wears at VFL level before he gets a chance at senior level.

He is also coming back from a serious knee injury.

We have seen a number of saviours rushed into the senior side to quickly over the last decade can we please give the kid a chance to find his feet?

Surely old dee you can see the difference between Trac and the likes of Morton, Gusberts, $cully.   

Chalk and cheese.  Times have changed. 

[Allen Jakovich 516]

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

 

Petracca reminds me of Allen Jakovich.  I am sure 'Ill get howled down for that comparison, but Im sticking with it god damn it,.

I won't howl you down.

[sisso 2,588]

I'm still baffled (but thankful) that St Kilda didn't take him at pick #1

[drdrake 3,203]

2 hours ago, ProDee said:

You're just advertising the fact that you have zero clue about this player.

If you had any understanding of his history or talent you wouldn't post what you have.

I think Old Dee's position is spot on.  We had a player not so long ago that came to us with all the same if not better attributes this guy has, like him  missed early football because of injury and was one of the most talented frustrating players on our list, then Fremantle took him off our hands before he was walked.  If you compare Trac and Col Sylvia when he was drafted they are exactly the same.  Hopefully Trac makes the most of his talent.

[old dee 23,998]

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

Surely old dee you can see the difference between Trac and the likes of Morton, Gusberts, $cully.   

Chalk and cheese.  Times have changed. 

A lot of things have changed you are correct mono.

However I stick with my comment that he has only proved at this point that he was a good junior footballer.

And we should give him a chance to find his feet at senior level.

[chook fowler 19,694]

19 minutes ago, drdrake said:

I think Old Dee's position is spot on.  We had a player not so long ago that came to us with all the same if not better attributes this guy has, like him  missed early football because of injury and was one of the most talented frustrating players on our list, then Fremantle took him off our hands before he was walked.  If you compare Trac and Col Sylvia when he was drafted they are exactly the same.  Hopefully Trac makes the most of his talent.

The big difference is between the ears.

[Lord Travis 10,793]

Bumped into Dave Misson last week and asked him about Petracca. He said Petracca will start the year playing VFL to get match fitness and touch. Don't expect to see him for a few matches yet. He was very excited at him as a talent though and said his power is unlike many players he's ever worked with before.

[Gator 17,967]

46 minutes ago, drdrake said:

I think Old Dee's position is spot on.  We had a player not so long ago that came to us with all the same if not better attributes this guy has, like him  missed early football because of injury and was one of the most talented frustrating players on our list, then Fremantle took him off our hands before he was walked.  If you compare Trac and Col Sylvia when he was drafted they are exactly the same.  Hopefully Trac makes the most of his talent.

Yes, I've seen Goodoil make that comparison. 

Clearly, I disagree. 

Edit: I should add ... Sylvia was very talented, but a poor mid.  He wasn't creative and lacked footy smarts. There's also the matter of application. We've already seen how driven Petracca is. 

Why Petracca can't be evaluated on his own merits is beyond me. 

There will always be a "Sylvia" to compare to anyone.  It's a pointless exercise.  We all know nothing is guaranteed. 

Edited March 2, 2016 by ProDee

[daisycutter 29,891]

25 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Bumped into Dave Misson last week and asked him about Petracca. He said Petracca will start the year playing VFL to get match fitness and touch. Don't expect to see him for a few matches yet. He was very excited at him as a talent though and said his power is unlike many players he's ever worked with before.

i think misson would have said the same thing about brayshaw at the same time last year

[CBDees 3,167]

5 hours ago, Pates said:

If he manages to get a NAB game in and stays injury free before round 1 I can't imagine why he wouldn't be in there. If he doesn't play NAB then sure he should have a run at Casey for a week or two but the kids a gun and if he shows he fits into the best 22 for round 1 then why shouldn't he be in there?

Since you've mentioned JT, will we be seeing any of him in the NAB Challenge?

I spoke to Trenners today as he was running the boundary. He smiled when I mentioned Round One but somehow I suspect that he may come back through the VFL. But who knows for sure?

[CBDees 3,167]

37 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Bumped into Dave Misson last week and asked him about Petracca. He said Petracca will start the year playing VFL to get match fitness and touch. Don't expect to see him for a few matches yet. He was very excited at him as a talent though and said his power is unlike many players he's ever worked with before.

From what I saw at training today he seemed both match fit and in touch. Expect him a smokey for this Sunday, the following Sunday, Round One of the VFL and then the opening Round of the AFL.

[dee-luded 2,959]

6 hours ago, Deeoldfart said:

AFL site reporting that Trac joined in full training this morning.  From what I'v read about him he will be an outstanding addition forward set-up.  (Even more) exciting times just around the corner!

lol,  time to celebrate Dof,   him joining in again

 

maybe a suitable song?

http://www.musicpophits.com/Music/BlueEchoes/HokeyPokey.mp3

 

[Wormburner 674]

1 minute ago, CBDees said:

From what I saw at training today he seemed both match fit and in touch. Expect him a smokey for this Sunday, the following Sunday, Round One of the VFL and then the opening Round of the AFL.

Did you see the tackling drill Trac and Crossy were doing? Trac was a man mountain against poor Crossy, just wrapped him up every time.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,477]

2 hours ago, sisso said:

I'm still baffled (but thankful) that St Kilda didn't take him at pick #1

What was more bizzare was the Suns taking Martin over Hogan.