Jack Watts in 2016?

[whatwhat say what 19,145]

he needs a big season. contract year.

[Guest]

He'll be in for round 1. Roos is a big one for experience and while Jack is disappointing at times, he is now an experienced player. Some may say it's an indictment on him that he is now an experienced player yet has achieved so little.

Whether he stays in the first 22 is a different matter altogether. Keep in mind that he is in the last year of a 3 year deal.

If he hits a bad patch of form, does Roos drop him and potentially get nothing if he walks via free agency (and is he a restricted free agent as well)? Does he get delisted full stop? Do we do a sign and trade?

Edited November 2, 2015 by Colin B. Flaubert

[Fitz Fitzpatrick 886]

He'll be in for round 22. Roos is a big one for experience and while Jack is disappointing at times, he is now an experienced player. Some may say it's an indictment on him that he is now an experienced player yet has achieved so little.

Whether he stays in the first 22 is a different matter altogether. Keep in mind that he is in the last year of a 3 year deal.

If he hits a bad patch of form, does Roos drop him and potentially get nothing if he walks via free agency (and is he a restricted free agent as well)? Does he get delisted full stop? Do we do a sign and trade?

Possible this is his last season at MFC. If he doesn't improve he may well get delisted as it appears his trade value is fairly low.

If he does improve a bit and attracts interest as a free agent then MFC may not wish to match an offer from a club looking for that cream on top type player.

Regardless, its setting up for a fascinating stage of his career.

[dazzledavey36 48,918]

Next year the coaching staff need to leave Watts inside the forward 50 and told he has 10 weeka to show why we drafted him as a forward. No more shedding weight in the expense of playing in the midfield. Club needs to just back him in one position and told be creative and kick goals.

[stuie 7,374]

Next year the coaching staff need to leave Watts inside the forward 50 and told he has 10 weeka to show why we drafted him as a forward. No more shedding weight in the expense of playing in the midfield. Club needs to just back him in one position and told be creative and kick goals.

Bang. Could not agree more DD. If they're going to "make him or break him" then do it in the one position he's shown the most promise, has the best skill set for, and would be the handiest for us to have work as a team.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

IF Watts can become ferocious at the contest, he will be elite.

I get that this will involve a monumental change and that, without being hard at the ball these days, elite talent does not translate into being an elite player, but that's all that's required IMO.

Brad Green turned himself from a softish player into a madman at the contest. It can be done.

[Yossarian 1,808]

It's really only you. Now to your question...

It's French typesetting. Some like it, others don't. Naturally, you can please yourself.

Now your turn ... I'd lay London to a brick you're an only child with these personality traits. Confirm ?

I would've picked that too, that or one older sister.

I have nothing else to add to this Jack Watts thread other than stuie is a [censored].

[Fitz Fitzpatrick 886]

IF Watts can become ferocious at the contest, he will be elite.

I get that this will involve a monumental change and that, without being hard at the ball these days, elite talent does not translate into being an elite player, but that's all that's required IMO.

Brad Green turned himself from a softish player into a madman at the contest. It can be done.

As DD said, i reckon the coaches need to give up on trying to turn him in to BJ and stick him forward. He's got great footy smarts , just needs that crunt in him.

Green showed complete disregard for his safety later in his career when he committed to the contest. loved it

[rpfc 27,534]

I, personally, don't ever think about the hidden reasons why people on here are the way they are.

And your personality is somewhat distorted by being anonymous and the words occasionally misunderstood through the lack of tone in text...

I like our little community though - as we all do - some leave but they keep coming back.

They love us too much.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Brad Green turned himself from a softish player into a madman at the contest. It can be done.

Green improved his physicality over the course of his career no doubt and this was highlighted especially by his 'running back with the flight' style marks and spoils that stick in my mind as something that clearly weren't acts that he attempted from the get-go. In the first few years of his career he certainly did look timid and played without a 'presence'. But through the middle and toward the end of his career, regardless of his weaknesses as a player, you could certainly see a visible change in the way he played and he began to play with an assertiveness that clearly gave him the confidence to go for those types of marks and spoils.

You hope that all players will improve that aspect of their game as they grow both in age and games experience and this is all we can hope with Watts.

Levels of fearlessness, physicality, competitive nature, aggressiveness etc, etc vary in all players. On one end of the spectrum you have players like Jack Viney and Joel Selwood who possess these traits in spades. The antithesis of these two are players like Watts and Grant. (Please refrain from pointing out that Watts is '10 times the player Grant is' as it's completely missing the point).

Grant is the perfect example of a player who cleary hadn't improved in the areas I'm talking about. Aspects of the game in which the game itself demands a certain level of. I seem always read posts trying to pointing out that 'Watts will never be a pack crashing/bone crunching/rib tickling player'. Something that would have been fairly obvious from day one. Does it mean he's exempt from ever having to display or improve in these areas he lacks? From what I read about Jack these days, it honestly seems like there are posters who believe so. Which only further highlights the task he's facing.

I want Jack to succeed. But time is running out as our list improves and the club moves forward.

Next year, he must show more of a presence and consistently improve in his physical approach to the game.

If not, I fear the worst for him.

[daisycutter 28,607]

But, the one thing I want to know before you go is - why do you have space between the end of your question and the question mark?

he's probably just a kerning extremist

[monoccular 16,189]

You'd have Trengove instead of Watts?? Nup never. Trengove is a long way back in my estimation for a call up, I believe any pace he had will now be gone due to injury, and I would much rather give Jack Watts first opportunity playing as a dangerous forward in an improved line up.

If Jack Watts clicks early, being such a very good ball user and accurate goal kicker watch out!! Many on here to eat their words and opposition coaches to have to put some time into him. I hope so!

Regardless of JW, how about waiting and seeing what Trengove produces in the preseason?

It is premature to write him off, write off his pace, just as it is to lock him in for a top season.

OMG some people just love to prejudge.

[P-man 13,224]

I, personally, don't ever think about the hidden reasons why people on here are the way they are.

And your personality is somewhat distorted by being anonymous and the words occasionally misunderstood through the lack of tone in text...

I like our little community though - as we all do - some leave but they keep coming back.

They love us too much.

Range Rover never came back.

Or did he?

I miss the weekly polls.

[P-man 13,224]

Regardless of JW, how about waiting and seeing what Trengove produces in the preseason?

It is premature to write him off, write off his pace, just as it is to lock him in for a top season.

OMG some people just love to prejudge.

I've never understood why people do it.

Why would you, as a supporter, essentially will Trenners to failure? It doesn't make sense. It's not like we have any say in the planning. So why not just hope for the best outcome?

Who knows what will happen with him post-surgery, but surely you'd think positively until he's ruled out. A fit and firing Trenners is a more than handy player. That's what I'm hoping to see next season. As a supporter of him and the team.

[McQueen 17,864]

Imagine if Watts could take the role that Dawes plays off him.

He's a better mark than Dawes

More agile

Faster

Better decision maker

More accurate field and goal kicking

etc

Just needs to bulk up and get feral.

It goes without saying that 'Desire' is they key ingredient of AFL players.

[Return to Glory 7,736]

Jack's ok.

[spirit of norm smith 13,054]

agree Jack Watts could be the key to our progress. He should be a floating forward and look to support Jesse Hogan. He can use his athletic ability to run defenders up and down.

If Jack has the desire ?????? that is the question

[Yossarian 1,808]

It goes without saying that 'Desire' is they key ingredient of AFL players.

It's definitely worth saying and more and more so seems to outweigh athletic ability and natural talent.

[Fitz Fitzpatrick 886]

It's definitely worth saying and more and more so seems to outweigh athletic ability and natural talent.

Life in general really.

[McQueen 17,864]

Life in general really.

Yeah, it just sticks out like dogs balls playing elite level footy.

[Fitz Fitzpatrick 886]

Yeah, it just sticks out like dogs balls playing elite level footy.

yep most definitely. Viney / Watts is a perfect example.

[Gator 16,893]

agree Jack Watts could be the key to our progress. He should be a floating forward and look to support Jesse Hogan. He can use his athletic ability to run defenders up and down.

It genuinely shocks me that there are supporters who still hold this view.

Let it go. For your and Jack's sake.

[stuie 7,374]

It genuinely shocks me that there are supporters who still hold this view.

Let it go. For your and Jack's sake.

We get it, you hate Watts.

Let it go, for yours and our sake.

[old dee 22,930]

I find JW threads boring full stop.

[hemingway 7,597]

I find JW threads boring full stop.

Agree OD, absolutely done to death. There is really nothing that has not been said many times in many different ways, but is all amounts to the same thing, over and over and........