Post Match Discussion - Round 23

[Bang Bang Bang 5,850]

Not sure why you compared Garlett to Dawes as Garlett is streets ahead:

Garlett: 22 games, 40 goals, average 1.8.

Career average: 1.7 per game

Dawes: 14 games, 11 goals, average 0.8

Career average: 1.1 per game

souce: MFC website

Jeff kicks 35-45 goals every year and there is no reason why he can't play 22 games for a few years yet.

Dawes can't even get on the park let alone kick goals.

I was actually referring to Newton who kicked 11 goals from 11 games. Dawes kicked 11 from 14. Obviously they're not competing for the same spot but goals are goals. Newton matched Dawes' output this year on the scoreboard in less games.

Garlett did well to play 22 games this year. It's not easy to play every game in a season especially when you're as skinny as him. It would be very useful to build some depth in the small forward ranks which is where I fit Newton in for 2016.

[Je Roos Salem 661]

Given our recent history no one should be appalled at how the season has panned out. the fact that nobody turns up

Would've been cooler if I'd written it down and you folded the sheet

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Would've been cooler if I'd written it down and you folded the sheet

i can supply a postal address if you would like to make that dream a reality

[rjay 25,354]

You can say it, but I disagree.

As a key forward you float a lot more these days. I agree that Hogan's best place is what was the traditional CHF position.

I think he will basically have the run of the forward line a bit like Carey, so at times he may start from the square and at others further up the ground including occasional runs in at centre bounces.

[titan_uranus 25,212]

Having watched the reply, the highlights for mine were Viney (superb game), Hogan (those marks...), Jones and Vince (no coincidence we won when they each played their best game since Collingwood), and Harmes.

I'm really excited by Harmes, he has the right physique, can take a mark, but seems to have some pace too.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,407]

Not sure why you compared Garlett to Dawes as Garlett is streets ahead:

Garlett: 22 games, 40 goals, average 1.8.

Career average: 1.7 per game

Dawes: 14 games, 11 goals, average 0.8

Career average: 1.1 per game

souce: MFC website

Jeff kicks 35-45 goals every year and there is no reason why he can't play 22 games for a few years yet.

Dawes can't even get on the park let alone kick goals.

Jeff also is very unselfish too. One of Hogan's goals was beautifully set up by Garlett. Love his tenacious tackling and chasing.

[Nasher 33,617]

Jeff also is very unselfish too. One of Hogan's goals was beautifully set up by Garlett. Love his tenacious tackling and chasing.

The thing that impresses me about Garlett is the speed in which his brain operates. That pass to Hogan was a split second decision as Hogan appeared in his sight. It helps that he's also got the skill and foot speed to go with it.

Still can't believe we got him for a packet of stale twisties. Thanks again Mick.

[timD 994]

I've only seen 3/4 of the replay but my impression is that Newton is soft and runs hard one way. Great, he got three goals. Huzzah.

Loved Stretch's game - linking, running, moving where he should when he should. Small, but tackles as hard as he can and doesn't shirk the issue. Sure with his possessions. Does everything that toump should do but doesn't.

Viney needs a mate - ANB next year perhaps?

With two more mids from trade week and petracca we'll have power and depth in the midfield. Bugger me.

Losing vanders and Kemp is really hurting us forward.

[rjay 25,354]

I've only seen 3/4 of the replay but my impression is that Newton is soft and runs hard one way. Great, he got three goals. Huzzah.

Loved Stretch's game - linking, running, moving where he should when he should. Small, but tackles as hard as he can and doesn't shirk the issue. Sure with his possessions. Does everything that toump should do but doesn't.

Viney needs a mate - ANB next year perhaps?

With two more mids from trade week and petracca we'll have power and depth in the midfield. Bugger me.

Losing vanders and Kemp is really hurting us forward.

It's funny but my Port mate loved him as a contested ball winner, said he was kept out by strong midfield but reminded him of another Boak.

We haven't really seen this from him yet.

[jnrmac 20,307]

The crowd was around what I expected, but I still think it's disappointing that barely a fifth of people who paid for memberships (even though membership numbers aren't very reliable indicators these days) end up coming for the final home game, for whatever reason it may be. That's a lot who've dropped off and I think those who are buying memberships should do so with attending every game in mind. Given our recent history no one should be appalled at how the season has panned out.

Get a life you nong

You'd prefer they didn't buy a membership?

[jnrmac 20,307]

I've only seen 3/4 of the replay but my impression is that Newton is soft and runs hard one way. Great, he got three goals. Huzzah.

Loved Stretch's game - linking, running, moving where he should when he should. Small, but tackles as hard as he can and doesn't shirk the issue. Sure with his possessions. Does everything that toump should do but doesn't.

Viney needs a mate - ANB next year perhaps?

With two more mids from trade week and petracca we'll have power and depth in the midfield. Bugger me.

Losing vanders and Kemp is really hurting us forward.

Haven't seen much of this Kemp bloke. Didn't he play for West Coast?

[Adam The God 30,644]

I've only seen 3/4 of the replay but my impression is that Newton is soft and runs hard one way. Great, he got three goals. Huzzah.

Loved Stretch's game - linking, running, moving where he should when he should. Small, but tackles as hard as he can and doesn't shirk the issue. Sure with his possessions. Does everything that toump should do but doesn't.

Viney needs a mate - ANB next year perhaps?

With two more mids from trade week and petracca we'll have power and depth in the midfield. Bugger me.

Losing vanders and Kemp is really hurting us forward.

Bang on. Agreed.

[binman 44,713]

The thing that impresses me about Garlett is the speed in which his brain operates. That pass to Hogan was a split second decision as Hogan appeared in his sight. It helps that he's also got the skill and foot speed to go with it.

Still can't believe we got him for a packet of stale twisties. Thanks again Mick.

Mick owed us something after giving us neeld

[P-man 13,367]

Mick owed us something after giving us neeld

Truth.

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Just watched the replay last night, apologies if this has been covered in this thread already but one of the commentators said Salem had "second year blues" and was "better in attack than on half-back".

Who the hell was this?

Do these idiot commentators actually WATCH the footy at all? Salem was injured for most of the year, how the hell can you infer from that that he has second year blues?

Also, he's clearly been a much better performer, and much more important to the side, when he's played his role on half-back.

One of them also called a possession by Mumford. I lol'd.

In other news, I love Hogan. So very, very much.

[rjay 25,354]

Just watched the replay last night, apologies if this has been covered in this thread already but one of the commentators said Salem had "second year blues" and was "better in attack than on half-back".

Who the hell was this?

Do these idiot commentators actually WATCH the footy at all? Salem was injured for most of the year, how the hell can you infer from that that he has second year blues?

Also, he's clearly been a much better performer, and much more important to the side, when he's played his role on half-back.

One of them also called a possession by Mumford. I lol'd.

In other news, I love Hogan. So very, very much.

Thought it was a strange call myself...it's this sort of stuff that makes you realise how little homework some of these clowns do.

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

FWIW Jones, Vince and Viney in the team of the week

[hardtack 10,982]

I posted pics from my trip to Melbourne on Facebook and included are a few from training and a few from the game (although I'm not so happy with the quality of those):

https://www.facebook.com/tim.fleming.75/media_set?set=a.883458691689415.1073741860.100000758763064&type=3&pnref=story

[Pates 9,688]

Just watched the replay last night, apologies if this has been covered in this thread already but one of the commentators said Salem had "second year blues" and was "better in attack than on half-back".

Who the hell was this?

Do these idiot commentators actually WATCH the footy at all? Salem was injured for most of the year, how the hell can you infer from that that he has second year blues?

Also, he's clearly been a much better performer, and much more important to the side, when he's played his role on half-back.

Would be interesting to know who that was as clearly they haven't done their research. Early days this year I wasn't sure about his position of HB but against GWS he was the perfect linking player with his exceptional kicking. What he also displayed was a bit of flair; several times he backed himself to get past players and did some run and carry.

Really liked his game and will be a great platform for him next year.

[DemonOX 8,837]

Thought it was a strange call myself...it's this sort of stuff that makes you realise how little homework some of these clowns do.

There was also a call by dwayne I think during the game when he said Gawn was off the ground receiving treatment and as he is saying it the next shot shows Gawn in the ruck. He is such a ittle twirp and didn't even correct himself.

Put it this way I wouldn't swerve to miss him if I saw him crossing the road actually id probably speed up!

[DemonWheels 1,118]

Watched the replay and thought I'd add that Michie found himself in defence a number of times purely through gut running - even got an intercept mark or two. Hopefully thats now the benchmark that he sets for himself because I can see him being a great accumulator of the footy if he can build on his tank and get around the ground more.

[Nasher 33,617]

Just watched the replay last night, apologies if this has been covered in this thread already but one of the commentators said Salem had "second year blues" and was "better in attack than on half-back".

Who the hell was this?

Do these idiot commentators actually WATCH the footy at all? Salem was injured for most of the year, how the hell can you infer from that that he has second year blues?

Also, he's clearly been a much better performer, and much more important to the side, when he's played his role on half-back.

One of them also called a possession by Mumford. I lol'd.

In other news, I love Hogan. So very, very much.

Yep, this was covered in the Derwayne thread. It was Lynch and Johnson that had that dialogue. It's pretty frustrating when you just know they are speaking complete garbage.

Salem was good before the injury and has been good since coming back, but we get told he has second year blues. He also barely touched the ball as a forward and was in and out of the side last year. He's taken a big step forward this year, even with the injury.

I get that the commentators can't know the ins and outs of every player, but it would be nice if they didn't resort to just making shit up when they don't know what they're on about.

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

Watched the replay and thought I'd add that Michie found himself in defence a number of times purely through gut running - even got an intercept mark or two. Hopefully thats now the benchmark that he sets for himself because I can see him being a great accumulator of the footy if he can build on his tank and get around the ground more.

He has really net skills as well. Has the ability to hit the 30m pass to the lead up forward rather then bomb it long to a contest.

[timD 994]

It's funny but my Port mate loved him as a contested ball winner, said he was kept out by strong midfield but reminded him of another Boak.

We haven't really seen this from him yet.

We have not seen that but he has had opportunity to show it. He'll be handy depth. A keeper for mine until we don't need him - 2 years.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Yep, this was covered in the Derwayne thread. It was Lynch and Johnson that had that dialogue. It's pretty frustrating when you just know they are speaking complete garbage.

Salem was good before the injury and has been good since coming back, but we get told he has second year blues. He also barely touched the ball as a forward and was in and out of the side last year. He's taken a big step forward this year, even with the injury.

I get that the commentators can't know the ins and outs of every player, but it would be nice if they didn't resort to just making [censored] up when they don't know what they're on about.

and you just know they would never make the mistake about a young Collingwood or Hawks player, because they would have enough respect to first verify their comments or just not the make the comments if they were unsure... it is annoying