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The Incredible Hulk - Jesse Hogan


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Jesse's on $500k next year. Not bad for 21. Bet Dawes was nowhere near that at his age & if Jesse really plays his cards right he could very well see $1.5m+ish in a few years given the way contracts for key forwards is going.

Man I hope he reaches his full potential at MFC!!

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No, you do the leg work and tell me why he would not.

Cause we have been [censored] for 7 years, and have rebuilt 3 or 4 time snow with similar results: nothing. We are sitting on 4 wins but i'm not sure where the next ones will come from. Looking at Brisbane they were impressive against Sydney, Saints weren't bad either. We have some good young kids coming along to support him but they wont develop if we don't develop them properly, which has been a weakness of ours for a long while.

He lives in Perth, loves Perth as we have to send him home every so often so he doesn't get homesick. The two sides in WA are successful in the sense they are able to build/re-build without too much fuss and consistently push for finals. You get (roughly) a 10 year period of AFL footy and that's it, why waste it sticking around at a club like us?

There, i had my go, now tell me why he would stay as opposed to joining Freo or West Coast?

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A bit of perspective on Hogans game.

Same number of disposals as Daniher who was BOG

2nd most marks on ground

2nd most contested marks on ground

3rd most inside 50 on ground.

What I love about him is that he works his way up the ground in an effort to genuinely help the team. It's what Dawes should be doing, not Hogan. Pedersen is a big loss because he normally filled that role. Hogan carries on like a kid and has for the past two weeks, but the delivery forward has been nothing short of deplorable. He seriously looks like he hates playing for us right now. His teammates don't give him a chance. At least he tries to work his way into the game. Something Howe doesn't do, and something Dawes tries to do but is very, very limited as a player.

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What was needed was for three forwards to lead in three directions to draw the opposition and give the mids and backs some options to kick to. This is basic footy used very effectively by Norm Smith all those years ago!

I couldn't agree more.. Dawes did the same thing saturday too..

Howe gave us peanuts on the lead front and what annoyed me more was as soom as any kick dropped short to Howe he gave a no contest..

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Cause we have been [censored] for 7 years, and have rebuilt 3 or 4 time snow with similar results: nothing. We are sitting on 4 wins but i'm not sure where the next ones will come from. Looking at Brisbane they were impressive against Sydney, Saints weren't bad either. We have some good young kids coming along to support him but they wont develop if we don't develop them properly, which has been a weakness of ours for a long while.

He lives in Perth, loves Perth as we have to send him home every so often so he doesn't get homesick. The two sides in WA are successful in the sense they are able to build/re-build without too much fuss and consistently push for finals. You get (roughly) a 10 year period of AFL footy and that's it, why waste it sticking around at a club like us?

There, i had my go, now tell me why he would stay as opposed to joining Freo or West Coast?

We'll beat Brisbane. Bookmark it.

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Jesse's on $500k next year. Not bad for 21. Bet Dawes was nowhere near that at his age & if Jesse really plays his cards right he could very well see $1.5m+ish in a few years given the way contracts for key forwards is going.

Man I hope he reaches his full potential at MFC!!

500k is not what Jesse is on next year. It is around the 375k -450 max. Fact
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The kid is in his first year

Lets give him a chance.

He was not the reason we lost.

That joy belongs to players who have been a round for way longer and make his job very hard at times.

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HOGAN DAWES PEDERSEN combo

all 3 have played together once for a loss & our equal lowest score.

2 of 3 have combined for 2 wins 9 losses.

Hogan & Dawes have played solo once each, both resulted in wins & our 2 highest scores for the year.

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HOGAN DAWES PEDERSEN combo

all 3 have played together once for a loss & our equal lowest score.

2 of 3 have combined for 2 wins 9 losses.

Hogan & Dawes have played solo once each, both resulted in wins & our 2 highest scores for the year.

Definitely food for thought isn't it.

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Definitely food for thought isn't it.

If we played about 500 games a year these stats, in the absence of other information, might really mean something rather than just provide entertaining conjectures.

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Riewoldts roughhead et al the new model super forward can work up the ground to be an extra in defence and then on the turnover through hard running be an option in the forward line

This is the next challenge for the young man

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Even more reason to drop Dawes

I think there are enough reasons already. Probably won't happen though.

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I'd try Dawes in the ruck more often. He clogs up the forward line. Hogan, Howe and Garlett would be enough firepower for any team. I think we keep waiting for Dawes to provide that spark but he just isn't that type of player.

He's like a Jamar-Watts-Dunn hybrid lol

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I'd try Dawes in the ruck more often. He clogs up the forward line. Hogan, Howe and Garlett would be enough firepower for any team. I think we keep waiting for Dawes to provide that spark but he just isn't that type of player.

He's like a Jamar-Watts-Dunn hybrid lol

*shudder*

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Id like Howe in the square. Dawes running from the square and making space on the 50 metre line, Hogan running the other angle from Dawes. Garlett behind DAwes Hogan in front of Howe. Mids Watts Brayshaw etc runing in front of and through Hogan and Dawes pack.

Rotation around the forward line by those three keys to keep churning the opposition and providing constant alternative options

The three must know where each is going and not clog up but rather separate to create space.

The mids flankers and wings must also churn with two in deep two in mid and two covering back

Its a new tactic THE CHURN

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IMO until Hogan consistently kicks goals from 45m to 50m out, he should play out of the square (FF) and lead to the ball carrier.

That's not a criticism just a development thing.

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