The Incredible Hulk - Jesse Hogan

[loges 6,024]

14 minutes ago, The Big D said:

I'm becoming very concerned by the growing chorus of football industry people saying that Hoges is certain to return home to WA.

Langdon and Hardie, I know, are Western Australians and might be being parochial, but on the other hand they are based in WA and maybe they do have some inside info. 

Crackers Keenan recently wrote that not only is he certain to go home, it is likely to be at the end of this year (despite his contract).

It might be correct that the opinions/whispers of these characters should be dismissed, but obviously, the more you hear it the more you worry.

These comments were made weeks ago and nothing since, certainly before freo's demise and Melbournes rise

[Dr. Gonzo 22,414]

19 minutes ago, The Big D said:

I'm becoming very concerned by the growing chorus of football industry people saying that Hoges is certain to return home to WA.

Langdon and Hardie, I know, are Western Australians and might be being parochial, but on the other hand they are based in WA and maybe they do have some inside info. 

Crackers Keenan recently wrote that not only is he certain to go home, it is likely to be at the end of this year (despite his contract).

It might be correct that the opinions/whispers of these characters should be dismissed, but obviously, the more you hear it the more you worry.

Langdon, Hardie and Crackers? Don't waste your time fretting over what those nimrods might say.

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,418]

I think Hogan will need to decide if he wants to win premierships or earn an extra 100-200k a year.

He will definitely be well paid with us but any side that wants to win flags can't pay one player an exorbitant amount in comparison to the rest of the side.

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,762]

3 minutes ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

I think Hogan will need to decide if he wants to win premierships or earn an extra 100-200k a year.

He will definitely be well paid with us but any side that wants to win flags can't pay one player an exorbitant amount in comparison to the rest of the side.

Sydney are in the hunt.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,367]

With the state Fremantle are in they'd want to be a bit smarter than to throw $2mil a year at Hogan and McCarthy. 

I understand these two would make a potent forward line but they rely heavily on their aging list of midfielders and defenders.

Edited May 10, 2016 by Ethan Tremblay

[chook fowler 18,226]

26 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Langdon, Hardie and Crackers? Don't waste your time fretting over what those nimrods might say.

Hardly a meeting of MENSA

[dpositive 1,547]

So an ex player comments on the worth of a player and thats how the market is set.

He is worth what he is worth! his worth to another club may be not realistic to his worth for us.

I agree with others that our club now has a group of experienced managers who will know what we can afford and how we can afford it. They will know what we pay others and why, Some of this is dollars and some is altruistic.They will know what a premiership is worth.

Roos is essential as part of the management team as he has the experience of Fitzroy and Sydney to recount..

I dont think there is any doubt he is something special so want him with us but not if it destroys the clubs progress.

[mo64 5,209]

36 minutes ago, The Big D said:

By requesting a trade. Whether Melbourne grant the request whilst he is under contract is of course another matter.

But the trading of contracted and highly valued players prior to the expiry of their deals has been done on several occasions - partly to maximise the return. 

But in this instance, why would Melbourne grant the request? The club would back itself in the final year of his contract to persuade Hogan to stay. His manager could try to pull a stunt like McCarthy's manager, but look how badly that turned out for everyone.

[Gator 16,891]

1 hour ago, The Big D said:

It might be correct that the opinions/whispers of these characters should be dismissed, but obviously, the more you hear it the more you I worry. 

EFA

Edited May 10, 2016 by ProDee

[Ethan Tremblay 28,367]

Jonathan Brown thinks the Dockers should make a $15mil 10 year offer to Hogan (apologies if already posted).

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/afl-news/dockers-should-offer-jesse-hogan-15-million-jonathan-brown-20160509-goqepg.html?login_token=QLPT8M_nWjwyqdgSEWXBW3Y8fK7GTh9WbAbC00o4ulB5UjO3HfZYoq_qMwjGeJ6T-CN2-B86aXutjhbgczc8Zw&expiry=1462854753&single_use_token=OtmcnGyTf7S6ROzrLKnu99sC15ajaFbFMF1jd3hV38yNQrmTUGe3U5cW0ruIauQFzec7IgGCJx0jG0I6Q3-imQ

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Confident he will stay, but if he doesn't sign a new contract over the next offseason he is most likely going back to WA.

[whatwhat say what 18,917]

jonno brown: "why would you want to leave melbourne"

 

gerard healy: "i don't think he's going anywhere"

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,418]

58 minutes ago, WAClark said:

Sydney are in the hunt.

Very different situation with their salary concessions at the time..... thankfully they are being wound back!

[SaberFang 7,141]

Even Hogan must realise Fremantle tying up that much of their salary cap on one player is a hideously short-sighted move. We're yet to see how the Buddy deal works out but Fremantle are hardly Sydney and they don't have the Academy protecting their success.

[Pates 9,536]

One big question on Fremantle is how big will their rebuild be? The other question is whether Ross Lyon is the man to pull it off. He has walked into two teams who were classified "contenders" but he took St Kilda to the edge and left them needing a rebuild, he's now done the same with Fremantle and they will have to go through their list and decide who will be there for the next window and who won't. Either way you would imagine they will be at least 2-3 years from being in any kind of legitimate bracket of contention, and it could very well be longer.

Point is Jesse has just been through witnessing that at Melbourne, if he does end up choosing Freo he'll have to go through that again but this time as messiah meant to lead them to glory and be on stupid money so therefor have even more expectation and scrutiny. Now obviously he's going to have scrutiny wherever he plays, but there is something about leaving a club that has drafted and developed you to go somewhere else that adds a lot more weight.

We are on the up, but more than that he doesn't appear to be copping the messiah tag as often as before. He had pretty harsh criticism levelled at him earlier in the year but now that he's knuckled down and the team is doing well the criticism has dissipated. We'll be offering him pretty stupid money as well, so he won't have to worry about that, I think he'll have to ask himself what he actually wants out of his career. Money or the chance to be a part of something. 

[Grand New Flag 3,226]

The club is very confident that:

• Hogan will re-sign to a long term contract this calendar year. Despite reports to the contrary discussions with his manager are on-going and positive.  We got close last summer.
• Dion Prestia will request a transfer to the Dees at season end.  This means we will probably have to give up player and next years first round but in my mind this is utter gold. Dion is massively underrated on this site.  Do not judge Dion by last weeks performance...... he played injured.

 

[Ethan Tremblay 28,367]

1 minute ago, Grand New Flag said:

The club is very confident that:

• Hogan will re-sign to a long term contract this calendar year. Despite reports to the contrary discussions with his manager are on-going and positive.  We got close last summer.
• Dion Prestia will request a transfer to the Dees at season end.  This means we will probably have to give up player and next years first round but in my mind this is utter gold. Dion is massively underrated on this site.  Do not judge Dion by last weeks performance...... he played injured.

 

Currently running at 20/80. Can't afford to have these ones wrong GNF!

[nutbean 8,837]

6 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

The club is very confident that:

• Hogan will re-sign to a long term contract this calendar year. Despite reports to the contrary discussions with his manager are on-going and positive.  We got close last summer.
• Dion Prestia will request a transfer to the Dees at season end.  This means we will probably have to give up player and next years first round but in my mind this is utter gold. Dion is massively underrated on this site.  Do not judge Dion by last weeks performance...... he played injured.

 

Before we get the numbnuts suggesting that we offer Terlich, Grimes and a set of steak knives for Prestia - has there been any suggestion of who would be offered up or do you have any opinion ?

Edited May 10, 2016 by nutbean

[Grand New Flag 3,226]

7 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Currently running at 20/80. Can't afford to have these ones wrong GNF!

No disrespect Ethan, but please tell me what I have said that was wrong?

I gave you the scoop on:

• Roos as coach (round 5, 2013) - completely dismissed by 100% of demonlanders
• Mitch Clark - not really retiring, not prepared to play for Dees - completely dismissed by 90% of demonlanders
• Dees in make play for Tyson (was smashed for this one)

To name but a few.  

I challenge you prove you 20/80 or shut up.  

Edited May 10, 2016 by Grand New Flag

[Ethan Tremblay 28,367]

Just now, Grand New Flag said:

No disrespect Ethan, but please tell me what I have said that was wrong?

I gave you the scoop on:

• Roos as coach (round 5, 2013)
• Mitch Clark - not really retiring, not prepared to play for Dees.
• Dees in make play for Tyson (was smashed for this one)

To name but a few.  

I challenge you prove you 20/80 or shut up.  

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    Trade Radio Discussion

   Grand New Flag replied to Petraccattack's topic in Melbourne Demons

   We have traded picks to trade for a player. We do not intend to take these picks to this years draft.

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   Josh Mahoney on SEN 15 October 2015

   Grand New Flag replied to the rolling fog's topic in Melbourne Demons

   Pick 3, part of a larger complicated trade. Obviously not going back to GC.

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3 minutes ago, nutbean said:

Before we get the numbnuts suggesting that we offer Terlich, Grimes and a set of steak knives for Prestia - has there been any suggestion of who would be offered up or do you have any opinion ?

Not sure about others, but I reckon Terlich and Grimes 

[nutbean 8,837]

4 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Not sure about others, but I reckon Terlich and Grimes 

ok...but what position do you see the steak knives playing going forward ?

Edited May 10, 2016 by nutbean

[Grand New Flag 3,226]

2 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

1. 

    Trade Radio Discussion

   Grand New Flag replied to Petraccattack's topic in Melbourne Demons

   We have traded picks to trade for a player. We do not intend to take these picks to this years draft.

   •  21 Oct 2015
   •  
   •  2,901 replies
   •  
   •  5
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   Josh Mahoney on SEN 15 October 2015

   Grand New Flag replied to the rolling fog's topic in Melbourne Demons

   Pick 3, part of a larger complicated trade. Obviously not going back to GC.

   •  15 Oct 2015
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   •  167 replies

Trades are suggested and many are actively worked on through trade week. 1 in 10 or so turn to reality.  That the trade was not completed does not mean that it was not on the table, and looked likely to be completed. Would you prefer I said nothing?

[stinga81 210]

Have always been of the belief (and this hasn't changed) but if we win more games than we lose this year and there is continuous improvement Hogan, T Mac etc will re-sign.