Comments on the couch? Costing "cuddles" his job?

A. Did we tank?

If yes..

B. Doesnt matter how we got caught doing it, if we did it, we suffer

Dont shoot the (minor part of it all) messenger here guys

That's funny because I distinctly remember the AFL ruling that we didn't tank...

That's funny because I distinctly remember the AFL ruling that we didn't tank...

Semantics rpfc and we all know it.

His social life which I've witnessed personally is a brilliant reason I don't want him anywhere near this young list.

This.

For what possible reason other than the lulz?

I'd take him back. I simply enjoyed his footy.

And if he was the person who, via his On The Couch comments, made the football community investigate our brilliant policy called "the benefits of loosing" then I am actually glad he did.

Did he drop us in it? You bet. And if he didn't we would still have Connolly, Schwab & Co making players wear blazers and every other crazy thing, without any vision to become a success-driven club.

Is he [censored]? Yes. Are his social activities questionable? Yes.

But I simply like his footy.

So much lol

if brock did not say what he did on the couch then we would not have Roos and co and the recent successful drafts we have had. Who knows where we would have been as the club may have still been trying to ride that culture to get more cheap picks. All in all its history, do what is best for the club.

What did Brad Green say to Mike Sheehan about tanking? I must have missed that part of the programme.

If I remember rightly, McLean was said to have left the club when he was offered a lower contract figure by the club than he was being paid on his old contract and Carlton offered him more. When he appeared on OTC he inferred he left because of the tanking he alleged was going on at Melbourne but we all know Carlton were the masters of the art of tanking so if that's so, why do you think he chose them?

BTW, I do agree he was a pawn in the whole saga, but if so, who made used him as a pawn and for what purpose?

Brad Green talked very nervously about his meeting with Mclardy as i recall, he didn't mention the word "tanking" but it wasn't hard to work out there was big "Trouble at Mill"

Re Mclean being a pawn, i believe Sheehan and Healy used their positions to open the dam walls...Vlad had his ears covered before then probably for legal reasons

The outcome was ugly as we all know...But in my opinion it would have been a lot worse if it had been covered up for longer.

Whatever you think of Mclean he did leave mates at the club

Playing to lose as a supporter totally sucked the life out of me, regardless of the draft picks we recieved

I cannot imagine what it would be like as a player...Sometimes dangerous i would say...Mind not fully on the job at hand...

Roos might just scrape a year or to out of Mclean as a big bodied mid who can still use the ball in tight

Who knows what the meetings of coaches and recruiters are speaking of....

Pass- Id rather play JKH Brayshaw Petracca and co.

If he was in the side, he would be taking the place of others I would prefer to be playing. We drafted Cross and Vince to help out Jones as the seniors in the midfield - I don't think we need another.

I think this is not a bad idea. He did play some terrific games for us, including almost single handedly executing our last finals win, against St Kilda I seem to remember. We do have a very young, and potentially very talented team, but we do lack seriously experienced heads, particularly in close games. It must worry the powers that be that we led in so many games last season in the last quarter but were too often beaten. This is largely about lack of experience, and on field leadership. McLean gives us a lot of this, much more than Cross IMHO.

To me, this is a typical Roos ruse....if you pardon the pun!

Take him. Proven midfielder, gives his all and at worst would be a depth player for 2 years. Like it or not he would be in our best 22

Brock has put in some really good games with the Blues. Putting him on the rookie list is not so silly as some think. Adds experience and depth.

Brock has put in some really good games with the Blues. Putting him on the rookie list is not so silly as some think. Adds experience and depth.

It is very silly. Too slow in a a midfield that lacks leg speed

We don't need depth in the midfield.

We lack class. He offers us none of that.

Doesn't pass the no d head test.

Made his own bed and its not v comfortable. Just desserts. F off

Doesn't pass the no d head test.

Made his own bed and its not v comfortable. Just desserts. F off

So you don't want him jnr!

I'd take him back. I simply enjoyed his footy.

And if he was the person who, via his On The Couch comments, made the football community investigate our brilliant policy called "the benefits of loosing" then I am actually glad he did.

Did he drop us in it? You bet. And if he didn't we would still have Connolly, Schwab & Co making players wear blazers and every other crazy thing, without any vision to become a success-driven club.

Is he [censored]? Yes. Are his social activities questionable? Yes.

But I simply like his footy.

Theres no way I'd take Mclean back.. Not only did he leave us for Carlton, he waited until he was getting a few games to throw us under the bus! I love how he thought he was getting another year to be shafted just like he shafted the club that gave him a start..

If he wants to pay the 500 k, He cost the club. He is more than welcome! (To FCUK right off and call it even)

Edited December 1, 201410 yr by Coup Cooper

Will be playing for Aberfeldie next year

Bloody norah. We have a nice quiet street with no skid marks on the road (I live near the Aberfeldie footy ground). I was hoping we could keep it that way.

Forgiveness is a powerful force, it re-unites. It is the kind of energy someone like Roos could put to good use for the club. I would love Brock to come back, if in fact the guy can still play football.

Is there any weight to this rumour? What happened at training to spark this off?

To those wanting MCLean back (leaving aside the political issues) a genuine question:

Is Carlton's midfield so good that they could afford to drop an aged player that would be of use to us?

Dont shoot the (minor part of it all) messenger here guys

I vote we shoot the messenger.

i'd rather have all my teeth pulled without anaesthetics

i'd rather have all my teeth pulled without anaesthetics

in slow motion

He was slow when we had him. The game's got even quicker. Now can barely get past a shuffle. No thanks. The game moves on.

Comments on the couch? Costing "cuddles" his job?

A. Did we tank?

If yes..

B. Doesnt matter how we got caught doing it, if we did it, we suffer

Dont shoot the (minor part of it all) messenger here guys

Could Brock McLean help us win more than 4 games in 2015, is the only question that needs to be asked here. If he spends 15 games taking hits at Casey while Stretch and ABN get 30 touches a game, so be it. If he comes in for 10 games and covers the role Trengove wouldve played, then even better.

Everyone goes on about "Whatever it takes" but turns their noses up at someone who used to bleed for the club because of a few poorly timed, but entirely true comments. If brock makes us 1% better then so be it

I don't think that's the right question at all. The better question would be, can he help us develop a team which will challenge for a Premiership within a few years? Winning 5 games in 2015...or 7 or 10 is irrelevant if that's all we achieve. If it's a stepping stone to something grander, by all means he could be considered. But I fail to see how anyone over the age of 25 is worth putting on as a rookie at our stage of development.

I don't think that's the right question at all. The better question would be, can he help us develop a team which will challenge for a Premiership within a few years? Winning 5 games in 2015...or 7 or 10 is irrelevant if that's all we achieve. If it's a stepping stone to something grander, by all means he could be considered. But I fail to see how anyone over the age of 25 is worth putting on as a rookie at our stage of development.

Because currently we have had a big influx of kids this draft, to balance the list we might need to look at bringing in some more experience. If not at the rookie stage then invest some money with Casey to pick up a few players who will help carry the load.