The Nathan Jones Contract

[Ethan Tremblay 30,856]

If anyone has an inside contact and has heard anything, please share with us all.

Cheers

That worked well during the trade period!

[Little Richard 6,262]

That worked well during the trade period!

Perhaps someone can come up with an appropriate riddle?

[jumbo returns 6,741]

May well be our next Brownlow medallist.

[binman 42,896]

Jones is gawwwwwn! No doubt about it.

:)

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[DemonOX 8,791]

That worked well during the trade period!

Grain of salt Ethan!!

[DemonOX 8,791]

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Pretty sure Moon was taking the pizz binman

[Biffen 12,943]

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His imagination.

[DemonOX 8,791]

I believe that a 4 year deal is imminent (ie: within the next few weeks). That is my Saturday golf club talk!

If u r wrong I will hunt u down Demoneyes!!!!!!!!!

Ha

Thanks for sharing mate.

Edited October 19, 2014 by DemonOX

[What 18,810]

Think a three year deal would be fair for both parties.

2.7 over 3

900k per season for Jones?

No chance.

4 year deal @ 700k per season seems about right

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

900k per season for Jones?

No chance.

4 year deal @ 700k per season seems about right

Jones deserves all of the money.

[praha 11,240]

4 years, 3 mil will get it done I'd imagine. If he goes to another level next year, bump it to 3.4.

[Lucifers Hero 39,737]

Best guess:

Yr 1 - $1.250m

Yr 2 - $750K

Yr 3 - $750K

Yr 4 - $600K

Yr 5 - $250K

So $3.6m over 5 years. Averages @ $840K over 4 years and @ $720 over 5 years so may not be enough.

Scaling helps us and him. Pay big chunk next year before our star FA arrives then taper off for when our home grown stars need more dough

He will be almost 33 at end of year 5. He will become what we all want: a one-club player...an increasing rare breed...

Edited October 19, 2014 by Lucifer's Hero

[Whispering_Jack 30,019]

Former Hawthorn player Tim Boyle who writes an insightful column in the Sunday Age penned this story about loyalty in football a few weeks ago ~ Free agency proves loyalty is overrated in football.

He suggests that based on his own experience, he might have been wrong to stay loyal to his club when an opposition coach came calling, I'm not certain that I agree entirely with his cynical viewpoint.

I think it's a bad look when a captain walks out on a club (a la Ryan Griffen at the Bulldogs) and Nathan Jones would be acutely aware of this and of the recent bitter history we've seen with the less than satisfactory performances of our free agents who left as soon as their contracts expired.

There is more to loyalty than the decision to be made by a player on the day his contract expires and Nathan Jones comes across to me as a person of high integrity who values the leadership position he has worked hard for at Melbourne. I think the club will reward him well with a contract offer of which he's deserving and that he will repay the club by making his decision early and by continuing his development as the club's on field leader going forward into 2015.

Another important thing for us is that we will finally go into a season under free agency where our results are not affected by concerns that some players don't fully have their hearts in the team's cause. In fact, it's likely that a number of our opposition clubs will find themselves blighted by the free agency loyalty bug next year but not us and this will leave the club well placed to test the "loyalty" of their players this time next year.

[rpfc 28,384]

900k per season for Jones?

No chance.

4 year deal @ 700k per season seems about right

Off the top of your head - what is the salary cap?

What is it next year?

What should it approximately be in 4 years time?

If you can't pull these out of your arse without the help of Google then what sense do you think it makes to dismiss a proposed salary for our best player?

[Lucifers Hero 39,737]

Off the top of your head - what is the salary cap?

What is it next year?

What should it approximately be in 4 years time?

If you can't pull these out of your arse without the help of Google then what sense do you think it makes to dismiss a proposed salary for our best player?

From another thread posted on Saturday in response to potential sal cap available for an FA:

Savings: - Clark $600K

- Frawley $350K (because his contract had been front ended).

- Delisted players $1.6m (8*$200K)

- Savings from other front ended contracts eg Dawes/Trengrove but these probably offset by renewed contracts eg Dunn/McDonald

Savings of approx $2.5m

Cost of new players Frost $250K), Lumumba ($450K) , Garlett ($350K) = approx $1m; Cost of new draftees: $500K. Total New Costs approx: $1.5m

Other variations: AFL allow pay't up to 105% of cap if offset in other years; sal cap will go up for 'inflation'; savings from contracted delisted players (if any)

On the basis of this 'back-of-the-envelope' calc at least $1m for an FA (front ended so that it tapers off when our young players need to be paid more)

Oh, forgot an additional cost: Big increase to N Jones when he signs new long-term contract but I would hope his is front ended into 2015.

Edited October 19, 2014 by Lucifer's Hero

[What 18,810]

If you can't pull these out of your arse without the help of Google then what sense do you think it makes to dismiss a proposed salary for our best player?

Because the proposed salary was ludicrous

yes hes our best player. That doesn't mean you pay him just under a million per season, hes not a game changing superstar

[Lucifers Hero 39,737]

Because the proposed salary was ludicrous

yes hes our best player. That doesn't mean you pay him just under a million per season, hes not a game changing superstar

Imagine our club if we can't sign Jones: unlikely to get FA; MFCSS goes off the richter scale; player morale goes down; struggle to win games; members stay away/drop off further.

While he is not a 'game changing superstar' of the game he the superstar of our team and he is a must keep player. He can almost name his price because his value cannot be measured in $. We will probably struggle to pay the min sal cap in 2015 and if any player deserves a premium it is Jones. I can't see any reason to not use the sal cap available in 2015 to not reward Jones then taper it as my post above suggests. He seems a fair person and to put his salary in context re-read WJ's post above. He will not hold the club to ransom.

Edited October 19, 2014 by Lucifer's Hero

[Nasher 33,613]

I reckon the estimate of savings from delisted players is way overestimated above. Nicholson, Clisby et al on 200k each? Yeah, nah.

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,721]

Jones to sign on and become the first Melbourne Premiership captain since 1964

[Moonshadow 17,676]

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Maybe I should've put more exclamation marks and emoticons to indicate tongue in cheek?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:) :) :) :) :)

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[True Heart 115]

There will be a lot of nervous fans waiting to hear if he re-signs.

If he goes, it would be a disaster.

800K a year. Get it done! Get it done now..

Heart and Soul of the MFC.

[Chook in Perth 2,109]

there's footballers on a list. then there is rare cases like Jones.

He understands he has a rare opportunity to be truly beloved at a level somewhere north of Neitz, and only short of Robbie and Jimmy.

When you're going to be well paid regardless, that's a powerful inducement. Its not something open to many footballers, but it is to him.

[Bedraggled Dee 336]

I think Chunk will stay but the pressures on him to acheive success before retiring and financial pressures to maximise income before retiing is the same as they were for Chip. He will field plenty fo offers from other clubs and will enevitably be placed in the position to have to give one or both of the above up to stay a Demon. Garland is also up next year and will also be courted by plenty of clubs. Given our recoird on retaining FA players we should expect at least 1 to walk.

[rpfc 28,384]

Because the proposed salary was ludicrous

yes hes our best player. That doesn't mean you pay him just under a million per season, hes not a game changing superstar

Is it ludicrous?

Google the salary cap, and then google the cap from 2010 to see how much it has gone up by.

You know what - I will do it for you:

2010 - $7.95m

2015 - $10.71m

2020 - ???

The next TV deal will send this further rocketing up, hopefully in exchanged for un[censored] up the Free Agency/Contracts/Trade infrastructure.

Jones will go close to a million for his next contract.

An $800k salary, is a mil today.

[rhaz 342]

Nathan won't leave, especially when we bring Zac over next year