Jake Lever

[Arrow 1,257]

Are you kidding? Taylor was a star at U/18 level.

He hasn't skipped a beat stepping up to AFL.

Don't know who you were watching, but Lewie Taylor has been a star for a long time.

His carnival had him bolt up the phantom drafts. Most had him going 10-12.. Presumably only his height was the reason everyone overlooked him. He's well and truly showed those recruiters though.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Ya gotta love this place. People who have never actually seen a player play watch a highlights reel and decide who they want to draft. That's like 5 good things out of 300. Thats what Barrett does. Come on we're better than that aren't we. Please someone comment who has actually seen him play a few times.

It's a football forum.

What on earth do you expect?

It's part of the fun. Trying to guess who will be a great player based on a highlights reel.

[Uncle Fester 2,848]

Ya gotta love this place. People who have never actually seen a player play watch a highlights reel and decide who they want to draft. That's like 5 good things out of 300. Thats what Barrett does. Come on we're better than that aren't we. Please someone comment who has actually seen him play a few times.

It's what our recruiters have done all century. Why can't we use the same methods as those highly skilled individuals?

[WERRIDEE 5,479]

Where is he?

Struggling at Casey the last time I checked.

[DeeSpencer 25,770]

Lewis Taylor{yes that lewis taylor}showed bugger all in the local league,And not much at u18s.

Had his season ruined by leg injury, which everybody was told would kill his draft chances and his 1st preseason.

Its chooklotto,with coaches like PR,rather eager to buy used products.

When he drafts a kid,he generally looks at athletic types.

The foot injured contributed to the slide, as did the fact it was a very good draft with 20-30 really nice prospects so clubs weren't going to spend too highly on a little fella.

But read the following and you'll see Taylor was rated exceptionally highly and was one of the best junior footballers in the land.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-falcons-star-lewis-taylor-will-miss-the-rest-of-the-season-with-a-foot-injury/story-fni5f3kt-1226706002803

[jazza 1,323]

Are you kidding? Taylor was a star at U/18 level.

He hasn't skipped a beat stepping up to AFL.

Don't know who you were watching, but Lewie Taylor has been a star for a long time.

Taylor had an interupted u18 champioship due to leg injury.

In his best first year player speech,he went on to say he hardly did any preseason,before starring for the bears.

Maybe im thinking of a different lewis taylor,but feel welcome to check those facts.

The point i was actually answering is PR drafts athletes,not named u18 stars.

[ChaserJ 5,113]

The foot injured contributed to the slide, as did the fact it was a very good draft with 20-30 really nice prospects so clubs weren't going to spend too highly on a little fella.

But read the following and you'll see Taylor was rated exceptionally highly and was one of the best junior footballers in the land.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-falcons-star-lewis-taylor-will-miss-the-rest-of-the-season-with-a-foot-injury/story-fni5f3kt-1226706002803

Lewy was also close to BOG as a bottom ager against SA in 2012. If he was 5 - 8 cm taller he probably goes top 5 in 2013.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-08-13/injured-star-a-draft-enigma

Interview

[Machsy 2,858]

More champs highlights from before the ACL injury (as a bottom-aged in 2013):

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-12-13/lever-pulled-on-jakes-year

[Demon Disciple 12,187]

More champs highlights from before the ACL injury (as a bottom-aged in 2013):

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-12-13/lever-pulled-on-jakes-year

going by that footage, his kicking leaves a bit to be desired. Plus he hasn't had many more opportunities to improve on it, given his knee reco (so i wouldn't have that he would have improved his kicking all that much).

He definitely likes to run and rebound, needs to clean up his kicking and decision making, though.

[spirit of norm smith 16,481]

Its a Yes from me... Grab him at 3

[btdemon 482]

Highlight reels show a lot of kicks not hitting targets.

[WERRIDEE 5,479]

Its a Yes from me... Grab him at 3

Melbourne can go for anyone they like at pick 3 except Lever.

He's done his knee and there is a high risk he could do it again. He would have to be as talented as Schwarz for us to even contemplate such a risky decision.

He sounds like Grimes not a lot going for him except he is a fantastic leader.

We have been given a gift at pick 3 we shouldn't [censored] on it.

[DeeSpencer 25,770]

Melbourne can go for anyone they like at pick 3 except Lever.

He's done his knee and there is a high risk he could do it again. He would have to be as talented as Schwarz for us to even contemplate such a risky decision.

He sounds like Grimes not a lot going for him except he is a fantastic leader.

We have been given a gift at pick 3 we shouldn't [censored] on it.

Would you rather Mitch Thorp or Joel Selwood?

Jake Stringer or Jimmy Toumpas?

[WERRIDEE 5,479]

Would you rather Mitch Thorp or Joel Selwood?

Jake Stringer or Jimmy Toumpas?

Your point being what exactly?

[Travis Boots 157]

You'll figure it out!

[Bang Bang Bang 5,826]

Lever is not on our shortlist for picks 2 and 3 and won't be there at 40. So, we can cease posting in this thread, I always thought he was a hack with dodgy knees anyway.

[DeeSpencer 25,770]

Your point being what exactly?

Selwood had degenerative knees. They said he'd never play passed a few seasons. Thorp was physical fine.

Stringer had a broken leg and was meant to not even play AFL whilst he got his fitness up until his second preseason. He was good from debut. Toumpas had some routine hip surgery but it wasn't meant to hamper him.

My point is you shouldn't read too much in to junior injuries. Almost all players suffer injuries if they play long enough. Juddy's groins. Hird's face and feet. Lenny Hayes' knee. Reiwoldts knees. Roughead's achilles. Buckley's hamstrings.

It sounds like we wont go Lever. But I'd hate to miss out on another champ based on a flawed theory.

[WERRIDEE 5,479]

Selwood had degenerative knees. They said he'd never play passed a few seasons. Thorp was physical fine.

Stringer had a broken leg and was meant to not even play AFL whilst he got his fitness up until his second preseason. He was good from debut. Toumpas had some routine hip surgery but it wasn't meant to hamper him.

My point is you shouldn't read too much in to junior injuries. Almost all players suffer injuries if they play long enough. Juddy's groins. Hird's face and feet. Lenny Hayes' knee. Reiwoldts knees. Roughead's achilles. Buckley's hamstrings.

It sounds like we wont go Lever. But I'd hate to miss out on another champ based on a flawed theory.

Selwood's name always pops up when it comes to injuries but he didn't have a knee reco. Alex Johnson and Troy Menzel have done it 4 times, Morabito 3 times and Gawn twice they are harder to get over.

Toumpas name threw me because he was injury prone as well a he missed half of the year with his injured hips. I thought that they weren't expecting much from him due to his injured hips and he was a project player and they were in it with him for the long haul. They were never going to pick him up if they were looking for a ready made player.

I don't know why Toumpas was rated so highly by the experts? He's too slow for an outside midfielder, he wasn't any good as a 17 year old except he had a good finals series and injured for half the year as an 18 year old.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,079]

Had a chat with a mate who is involved with the doggies. He says that Lever is one of their top picks for this draft and if they had our picks they would be taking Lever and Wright. They really rate them both as hard trainers who are constantly trying to improve. I think it's been said on here before that Roos really likes Lever as well, so there's a good chance we could be seeing him at three. Could be a very handy pick up for us.

[hells bells 2,023]

I watched the highlights vid again. Does anyone think he moves a bit like Jeremy Cameron

[Tyson_Viney_Toumpas 269]

Lever is not on our shortlist for picks 2 and 3 and won't be there at 40. So, we can cease posting in this thread, I always thought he was a hack with dodgy knees anyway.

Actually you're wrong, he is one the club is definitely considering.

Source: an ex player/champion of the club, in the know, said so. Which I posted a few weeks back.

[Bang Bang Bang 5,826]

Actually you're wrong, he is one the club is definitely considering.

Source: an ex player/champion of the club, in the know, said so. Which I posted a few weeks back.

I have no doubt we would have been looking at him, perhaps as recently as a few weeks back. But Mahoney himself has publicly volunteered Petracca, Brayshaw, McCartin and Wright as the final 4 on our shortlist. He has no reason to be lying through his teeth, as St.Kilda are the only team to pick ahead of us and all the players will be gone by our next pick.

[monoccular 17,443]

Ya gotta love this place. People who have never actually seen a player play watch a highlights reel and decide who they want to draft. That's like 5 good things out of 300. Thats what Barrett does. Come on we're better than that aren't we. Please someone comment who has actually seen him play a few times.

There would be very little discussion on any prospective draftee were comments to be limited to those who have actually witnesses the guy play in the flesh.

Perhaps we could do a poll - who of those who post here have actually seen any of these wannabes play live?

[jabberwocky 2,301]

I have no doubt we would have been looking at him, perhaps as recently as a few weeks back. But Mahoney himself has publicly volunteered Petracca, Brayshaw, McCartin and Wright as the final 4 on our shortlist. He has no reason to be lying through his teeth, as St.Kilda are the only team to pick ahead of us and all the players will be gone by our next pick.

You are paraphrasing inaccurately.