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jacey
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Melbourne last finals win 2006. Essendon last finals win 2004.

monoccular
monoccular

... except his coach

John Crow Batty
John Crow Batty

Why should a finals season be based on equality of chances? That make the home and away season irrelevant. The best teams should always be on the front row of the grid.

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I watched all the finals and one of the things that struck me was this...... these good teams PLAY ON at every opportunity. And they play on FORWARDS!

We seldom play on, and when we do, it's backwards or sideways.

I noticed in the last quarter today in Adelaide, Port , knowing they were unassailable,started to play sideways and back, after not playing on.

Richmond then kicked 5 goals to 1 in junk time. I reckon Port would have increased their lead if they'd continued to attack. It didn't matter, but I thought it was instructive.

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Was it Neelds or Vineys decision??[/quot

Oh God will we ever know? Why did we go Toumpas over Wines? Todd Viney knew this kid backwards, forwards and every other way and yet went past him. I mean this man child has played every game since he was drafted. Some say Neeld intervened but why would he go past a ready made big inside mid for a lightly framed outsider? No idea. My thoughts are that CS was still CEO but really could we still blame him for that along with everything else?

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Was it Neelds or Vineys decision??

Don't start this one again. Viney knew both kids really well...if he really wanted Wines over Toumpas and thought he was that much better then he should have walked. Neeld did not have the first hand knowledge to make this decision nor should of he been in the position to make the decision.

Interestingly Jack Viney made some very positive comments about Toumpas in the year running up to the draft so I really have some doubts about Viney snr being such a staunch supporter of Wines.

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Don't start this one again. Viney knew both kids really well...if he really wanted Wines over Toumpas and thought he was that much better then he should have walked. Neeld did not have the first hand knowledge to make this decision nor should of he been in the position to make the decision.

Interestingly Jack Viney made some very positive comments about Toumpas in the year running up to the draft so I really have some doubts about Viney snr being such a staunch supporter of Wines.

Not starting anything, simply stating that laying the blame solely at the feet of Neeld may be wrong.
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No it's not, it's a problem I have I my workplace, something called accountability. Certain people not being held to account because they're a favourite son.

Not sure what you're are getting at here but I'm effectively saying the same thing as you. I have seen no evidence to say Viney was not responsible for picking Toumpas over Wines. Unless someone has that evidence I don't blame Neeld for the decision.

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Not sure what you're are getting at here but I'm effectively saying the same thing as you. I have seen no evidence to say Viney was not responsible for picking Toumpas over Wines. Unless someone has that evidence I don't blame Neeld for the decision.

I thought I read somewhere that Viney had the final call, I'm probably wrong but that's what I remember . Coaches can/might say take best available or we require this type of player. My understanding is that after knowing they had J Viney in the bag, the thinking then became Toumpas would compliment him with some outside run.
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Love the way Brad Hill goes about it, where is our player like him???

Barry??? Long shot I know.

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Trent Cotchin won the toss and decided to kick against a howling breeze on the road in a final

Worst captain in the league

It was funny to hear that apparently Ricky Petterd told him exactly that before he went from us to Richmond ... must have been an awkward first meeting ... :blink:

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Hawthorn? Jeez, I wish, but I fear it won't happen. Yet another hawks premiership looming. Yuk oh yuk.

At least Hawthorn is going to have a challenge in its prelim.

Sydney's going to get Geelong or North Melbourne.

A Hawthorn-Sydney GF would surely be a total bore to everyone other than the supporters of those two clubs. IMO the only way that's going to be avoided is if the winner of Fremantle-Port is able to beat Hawthorn the following week.

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The Guardian, The Joy of Six, finals brilliance:

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/sep/09/joy-of-six-afl-early-finals-brilliance

"Here is something that might not surprise you entirely: Garry Lyon’s 10-goal performance has proven too hard to find on YouTube. C’mon Dees supporters, get it up there and contribute to the HOF lobby group."

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