Post match discussion - Round 6

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,477]

I'm going early here. We will beat the Tigers in 3 weeks.

[praha 11,253]

I don't know, I think Roos' game style is at odds with the club's need for off-field prosperity. I understand this is all necessary to weed out the bad from the good, and create good habits and a consistent game plan, but this is as ugly I've seen the club play over a period of time, and it's turning people away.

The club needs a win. It's a double-edged sword atm. I'm not sure the club as the flexibility to be playing this sort of footy. It desperately needs 6 wins this year.

[rjay 25,311]

Nathan Jones is a legitimate A grader.

Salem will do as he pleases, even in AFL.

Terlich will strengthen Casey.

Tom McDonald is lucky Garland is injured.

Viney and Tyson are taking this club forward.

Brynes will strengthen the development squad at Casey.

Dawes is worth 10 goals, gives us structure.

Watts should've stuck to basketball.

I love Roos.

Agree with some of what you say but Tommy Mc did his job tonight. Viney, Tyson, Salem and Hogan when he is fit are going to take this club forward. By the way, how lucky are we to have Cross. What he is teaching the young guys at the club is invaluable. Last year we picked up Roden, Gillies and Byrnes. This year Cross and Vince. This can't be underestimated.

[What 18,810]

Watts and Howe both belong at Casey

Both as lazy as each other

[RalphiusMaximus 6,106]

I think:

JKH is looking like a win for us.

Salem showed some real class.

Vince just had his best game in the H&A season.

Cross fought hard.

Jones was Jones.

Pedersen played his best game for the Dees

Dunn is very solid these days

And...

Watts was soft although he picked up a bit after Roos got stuck in to him.

Howe was similar to Watts, but less soft and more lazy.

[Demon Jack 7,149]

I'm going early here. We will beat the Tigers in 3 weeks.

We could have a chance against the Dogs in 2.

[rjay 25,311]

I don't know, I think Roos' game style is at odds with the club's need for off-field prosperity. I understand this is all necessary to weed out the bad from the good, and create good habits and a consistent game plan, but this is as ugly I've seen the club play over a period of time, and it's turning people away.

The club needs a win. It's a double-edged sword atm. I'm not sure the club as the flexibility to be playing this sort of footy. It desperately needs 6 wins this year.

Nup, if we played an any other game with this list we would be sunk big time. Roos is on the money, it's the best move we've made in 50 years to have him at the club (Northey close)...

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,297]

Chris Johnson just said on 3AW he would not expect to see JW til mid season after that effort and who could argue. He had become a liability and needs to get a little confidence at Casey.

Was a pretty horrid game of footy but we are seeing some good signs, particularly our pressure at times. The big difference tonight was how clean Sydney are in pinpoint passing, whereas ours was pretty poor too often.

Pederson was a massive eye opener for me.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

How was Jamar?

Better than Spencer.

[KingDingAling 3,758]

Agree with some of what you say but Tommy Mc did his job tonight. Viney, Tyson, Salem and Hogan when he is fit are going to take this club forward. By the way, how lucky are we to have Cross. What he is teaching the young guys at the club is invaluable. Last year we picked up Roden, Gillies and Byrnes. This year Cross and Vince. This can't be underestimated.

I had to look twice when I seen Cross take overhead marks today, I was thinking who is that.

Cross is ULTRA impressive. Most important pick up, he is a leader and teacher.

[Robot Devil 1,895]

How about the chain of holding the balls in the second quarter? After the two were paid against Neville Jetta and Dom Tyson, I laughed like an absolute madman when one was paid in our favour (to Nathan Jones). What a joke.

I was wondering why the Swans midfield were wearing green. Very odd.

Swans disposal was shocking (throws, tipping the ball out, scooping it to teammates, outright dropping the ball) but they were never penalized. And as for holding the ball... how do I get a seat near the umpires race?

[KingDingAling 3,758]

Jamar was good, even kicked the ball.

[Nasher 33,617]

Better than Spencer.

Agreed. Love Jake's effort, but with Jamar having hardly played in the last couple of years, I'd forgotten how much better he was.

[Optimus D 283]

Really impressed with Watts form tonight. Particular happy with the effort put into waving of arms and pointing in various directions. Running on and off the bench was breath taking and running consistently and beautifully around the ground keeping a watchful eye on the opposition. Am sure the Casey develop squad is waiting with trembling anticipation.

[rjay 25,311]

I had to look twice when I seen Cross take overhead marks today, I was thinking who is that.

Cross is ULTRA impressive. Most important pick up, he is a leader and teacher.

He's the leader we've needed since Junior, a great get.

[Return to Glory 8,470]

Really impressed with Watts form tonight. Particular happy with the effort put into waving of arms and pointing in various directions. Running on and off the bench was breath taking and running consistently and beautifully around the ground keeping a watchful eye on the opposition. Am sure the Casey develop squad is waiting with trembling anticipation.

For me it was the crunching tackles he laid on and the second efforts.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,456]

33 touches

Didn't feel like it watching on TV, he had a lot of short handpasses under pressure just didn't seem to have much effect on the game.

[PJ_12345 1,098]

Better than Spencer.

Jamar was good, even kicked the ball.

Haha was about to ask if he did!

Agreed. Love Jake's effort, but with Jamar having hardly played in the last couple of years, I'd forgotten how much better he was.

Well said

[titan_uranus 25,191]

I think Nasher summed it up pretty well - there are parts of the game where you feel like we're a team that's around 9-14 on the ladder, which is an improvement on 2012-2013. Salem looked great, JKH played his best game of the year, M Jones was superb all night, Pedersen's getting better and Dunn and McDonald were solid in defence.

However...

Watts and Howe must be dropped. Their efforts tonight were absolutely disgraceful. They both jogged around, neither seeming to care about anything. Howe just wants to take MOTY each week, that's enough for him. I'm disgusted by his effort tonight. Watts was no different. Both must be dropped.

Byrnes is also inept, no idea how he got selected.

As for the rest, they all tried very hard tonight which was reflected in the tackle count and not being totally disgraced in the clearances. But we have far too many players who just do not have the skills to play consistent AFL-quality football. The amount of times we turned the ball over under no pressure at all (three times in the first quarter alone) is not good enough; it will hold us back until we get rid of the stragglers in the side who cannot kick.

Anyone who doesn't get home and automatically delete the game from their PVR/IQ fast forward to 3/4 time and have a look at Roos' frustration/inability to fathom the ineptitude of Watts & Howe - and then have a look at the players reactions. Watts looks like he wants to be anywhere except playing a game of footy and Howe looks in disbelief like he can't believe Roos is having a go at him. I had flashbacks for a second to Zantuck/Barassi though of course not to the same extent. It's only a brief shot as the camera pans away but you can see Howe just standing there and looks like he's about to say something back to Roos.

I didn't see this at the game - he gave them a spray did he?

[Robot Devil 1,895]

On the upside:

Lynden Dunn continues to impress with his efforts.

Chris Dawes works hard up and down the ground.

Some sparks in JKH and Salem.

[Grapeviney 9,913]

The frustrations of season 2014 continues.

Disappointed with our running tonight, poor both offensively and defensively.

The difference in disposal between the two teams was significant - they hit targets all night, we wait too long to honour good leads and end up kicking to a contest, usually without precision.

Having said that, it was yet another game where were still in the contest until quite late; another sign of how far we have come. We only needed a couple of consecutive goals and we might have had a ballgame.

Howe was hopeless, Watts useless, Byrnes is finished and Bail played poorly in his milestone game.

Well done to Salem on a fine first game, made an impact when he came on.

[Return to Glory 8,470]

I reckon Rohan Bail must be on his last legs unfortunately. Up and under kicks were starting to piece me off.

[titan_uranus 25,191]

On Jamar, he was a definite improvement in the ruck over Spencer, but his work around the ground didn't do much for me. Couldn't mark the ball, kept running under it and mistiming his leaps. Probably helped us from getting destroyed in the clearances, but I don't share the same enthusiasm as some others do.

Pedersen was one of the few who ran all day and was willing to link up. Dunn was impressive all night in defence whilst I thought McDonald held up well.

[SaberFang 7,151]

JW will be out. And Howe.

Have to wait for tomorrow's results, but best case scenario is Garland, Riley & Kent in.

[Little Richard 6,265]

Pederson really played an outstanding game, especially considering what we've come to expect from him. Effort and he actually was strong in the air - he really knows how to throw his weight around. If he can keep playing like this, he'll be handy in the swing man role.

Matt Jones' development has been awesome so far. If he stays on this trajectory he'll go from bit part player to an essential part of the midfield. It's great to see.