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That point came out in the daily reports. I think that it would be a great exercise to repeat, particularly when their is a new coaching regime and a dozen new players to get to know each other and bond as a unit. The big thing that came out in the daily reports was how they backed each other and supported each other to get the training sessions as a team. It is an ideal way to build team spirit before the season proper!

yeah it worked well didn't it.

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Which is all you need. I had a tour of the Footscray campus altitude rooms (with the Doggies in attendance) and the new wisdom is that you 'train high and live low'. That is do your work at altitude but its better for you if you sleep at normal altitude levels. They said the Arizona thing was good but you didn't need to go to that expense and in fact it may be detrimental (to fitness levels) by living at altitude for a month or so..

Just to confuse things, I am sure I saw an interview a few years ago with an Olympic athlete who was using an altitude facility at a uni here and he was sleeping high at night then training at full intensity low altitude on the track. The theory was that the gains in red/white? Blood cells that increases your oxygen uptake happen over time as you sleep but you can train intensely at sea level during the day.

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yeah it worked well didn't it.

Maybe we would have won 1 game instead of 2 if we didn't go to the NT.

Or maybe it's really irrelevant.

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Which is all you need. I had a tour of the Footscray campus altitude rooms (with the Doggies in attendance) and the new wisdom is that you 'train high and live low'.

The protocol you're referring to is the reverse of that, it's live high, train low. By living at altitude but training at sea level, you get the benefits that come with adaption to having less oxygen (e.g., increased re blood cells), without the constraints that having less oxygen puts on performance. One of the reason a number of cycling teams train in Tenerife is that they can live up the mountain, but then train at sea level.

The main use - in fact the only use - for hyperbaric tents is to sleep in them.

This Wiki entry perhaps best sums it up:

"Sleeping in a simulated altitude environment allows the body to achieve some of the positive adaptations to altitude while still permitting the athlete to perform workouts at an oxygen-rich lower altitude where muscles can perform at their normal work level."

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yeah it worked well didn't it.

From Jones through to Dawes, a number of the players have commented that no matter how bad things were this season, the group never splintered, there was no finger-pointing, and the group as a whole stayed solid.

I know you've listened to the Bernie Vince interview. Without going through it again to find the exact quote, he said that something that struck him was that Melbourne came across as a real team-oriented club, and commented that he'd received welcome messages from almost all the players.

So, if Darwin was about building team spirit and bonds, you'd have to say that it worked.

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From Jones through to Dawes, a number of the players have commented that no matter how bad things were this season, the group never splintered, there was no finger-pointing, and the group as a whole stayed solid.

I know you've listened to the Bernie Vince interview. Without going through it again to find the exact quote, he said that something that struck him was that Melbourne came across as a real team-oriented club, and commented that he'd received welcome messages from almost all the players.

So, if Darwin was about building team spirit and bonds, you'd have to say that it worked.

Yes, Vince's words were: "A real Clubman's club."


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What struck me was the small snippet about Colin Sylvia. I won't say anymore about it but it just speaks volumes of our coach.

Beat me to it. To me he understood Sylvia's decision and was fully supportive of him even though he was a required player.

Players will respect Roos, Roos will respect the players. We will be a completely different side next year.

PS: don't be surprise if Rawlings becomes his successor.. Extra responsibility and a great relationship with our players.

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Can any1 summarise what he said? For those of us who are at work and cant watch it

Basically alluded to the fact that if he and Ross Lyon weren't mates the Michie deal wouldn't have been so easy to execute. I get the feeling that if he stays fit next year he'll prove a real find.

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Summary for those who can't watch:

  • Players not being here makes his transition (e.g. moving from Sydney to Melbourne and straight into drafting/trading/list management) easier
  • Said that on OTC all he was trying to do was answer the questions as best he could
  • Getting a senior assistant was always going to be a process, even though 'we would have liked to get it sorted straight away' it was always about getting the best person; it's now about the players now, focus on next year, the senior assistant will wait
  • In the 2-3 year timeframe that he's committed to, his aim is to set some high standards to emulate the likes of Hawthorn/Fremantle. Will take some time. 'We understand where we're at'. Benchmark is percentage, more so than win-loss. It's about being competitive for longer.
  • Coaches have been watching game film the last few weeks, they're learning about what is needed
  • Bringing in his new coaches is no disrespect to the past, but he feels it's more efficient to not have to coach the coaches, his people know him and his style and that means they'll work well together. Getting Brad Miller back was something he wanted to do, not just because he's past-MFC but also for who he is as a person. Having his own coaches helps 'fast-track' things.
  • Jade Rawlings will probably have his status 'elevated' a little bit (he's been here longer than the others and knows more stuff, so he'll get a bit more responsibility)
  • Clear strategy in trade period (even before Roos was here) was the midfield, we are really pleased with how things went. Fremantle didn't want to lose Michie but Roos' friendship with Lyon seems to have helped us get him. Roos says Tyson is 'an absolute star in the making'. Instead of another 18-year old, we decided it was better to get a slightly older player to help Viney/Toumpas/Hogan. Tyson has a bigger body, the kids in the draft are going to be smaller bodies. We kept pick 9 which was great, so it was a win-win all round. Vince 'sort of popped out of nowhere'. Losing Sylvia but getting a genuine midfielder back for him was a good thing, Roos says Sylvia made the right decision but getting Vince out of the blue to replace him is a good thing. His age, plus Cross, helps us out. 'Really successful period'
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I think anyone watching the interview with Roos cannot but help but feel supremely optimistic as regards the remainder of the draft period and the forthcoming year. Bring it on!

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"Before you worry about how many games you are going to win, you have got to be competitive for longer."

- Paul Roos

Ahh, jeez...

Alright, let him have it.

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"Before you worry about how many games you are going to win, you have got to be competitive for longer."

- Paul Roos

Ahh, jeez...

Alright, let him have it.

Hopefully most Landers can appreciate that the wins will come, but first things first, we need to not be embarrassing.

I think many took umbrage with the one liners Neeld trotted out when there was a failure of even being competitive. "It is what it is" sounds very hollow when you're getting belted by 10+ goals every week.

Plus when it's coming out of the mouth of Paul Roos, it demands greater respect. Might be unfair, but it just does.


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What struck me was the small snippet about Colin Sylvia. I won't say anymore about it but it just speaks volumes of our coach.

Yes I think his comments were code for Col might be part of the problem rather than part of any solutions

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"Before you worry about how many games you are going to win, you have got to be competitive for longer."

- Paul Roos

Ahh, jeez...

Alright, let him have it.

Yeah, it hurt me to hear those familiar words come out of his mouth...

At the end of the day, it's what every coach aims to get his players to do.

It's just how you go about achieving that aim.

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Yeah, it hurt me to hear those familiar words come out of his mouth...

At the end of the day, it's what every coach aims to get his players to do.

It's just how you go about achieving that aim.

I couldn't care less if he uses the word 'competitive', provided he does what he did in this video and adds to it.

The issue most people had with Bailey was that that was all he ever spoke about. Ever.

Already in that video Roos spoke about making sure we have bigger bodies in the midfield and working to improve our percentage (which comes not just from scoring more, but from improved defence too). Small things, but things that gave meaning to the vagueness that is 'competitive'.

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Roos has been around long enough to know us stupid fans are going to get over excited with over blown expectations come round 1. And smart enough not to feed it.

He's our third coach in three years, FFS!

"Under promise and over deliver" will be the mantra for 2014.

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I agreed with the competitive lines when Bailey, Neeld and Craig said it and I still do. Just because we've heard it so often that it now rings hollow, doesn't mean it's not right, and I'd have thought it was self evident that competitiveness is the obvious first checkpoint from where we're coming from.

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Anybody able to read all those names on the board at the back? ^_^

My eyes aren't flash.

But I thought I saw Quinlan, Wilson, Pert.??

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