The Successor

[Notorious D 29]

The reason it's important to discuss who this will be is that Roos has mentioned how he sees his senior role more as a manager, leader of standards and cultural change.
He alluded to the senior assistant being the hands on football coach who is more in touch with today's trends etc.

I'm very interested to see who it is - will it be someone Roos already knows and has confidence in being able to step up in 3 years or will it be someone untried where there is more risk that they won't be ready to transition so soon. I'm confident he won't be passing the reins across until he has confidence in them delivering success.

I like Ling but really have no idea if he has the attributes to be a senior coach in that time frame.

[rjay 23,925]

hopefully Michael Voss

and according to Triple M, Voss' management called the MFC this afternoon to express interest (but i bet they were in contact long before today)

No, it won't be Voss, he hasn't got the communication skills and had his players offside. Voss doesn't understand how to let go and delegate, he's not a good listener and this is a big problem.

Roos is a very good communicator and knows how to tap into the people around him, this is the type we need to take over. Ling is one I would look at but his only problem is he has been in the media for a couple of years, Roos will be looking for someone in the system working with a successful club to help him out (smart man Roos) so Simpson and Tudor would be at the top of the list.

I still wouldn't completely rule Ling out though, his people skills and understanding of the game would be enticing.

[Ted Lasso 16,825]

Adam Simpson would be a good get for this role, or Mark bickley

[Robbie57 1,991]

Voss is a good choice. Has learnt from mistakes likely to want to learn from Roos. Has already shown he can coach at the highest level so it only has upside.

I thought ling said he wanted to coach but not next year.

Roos said a lot about the Buckley model and voss is from the same sort of cloth.

The way pj and Roos work I bet we will nab him quickly.

[Roger Mellie 3,511]

Has already shown he can coach at the highest level so it only has upside.

I don't think he has, but that's just me

[dazzledavey36 48,868]

Ling tweeted he was still 12 months away from doing any coaching.

Put a line through his name.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,219]

Unless they land a senior gig this year I expect it will be one of Tudor or Simpson but would hope that Bickley is in the mix as well. I don't rate Vossy (as his wife calls him) I think he comes across a bit of a [censored] and doubt he would listen to anyone but himself. Would love to see any of Micky O, Junior or Simon Black at the club in some capacity next year.

[Hannibal 5,814]

Roos sees himself as a Manager, as much as anything. He's going to change the whole ethos of the club. And two-three years is plenty of time to do that. And importantly, he'll be able to lay foundations built of concrete, not sand. The legacy he'll leave will be long-lasting.

I like the fact that they're upfront about the succession plan, as the whole club can buy into the blueprint. And they've immediately made the club the most attractive proposition in the market place for any budding senior coach that thinks he can learn from the best and ease into the role.

It's different, which is why some don't like it. But Roos wouldn't have come any other way and in my opinion it gives us the best chance at the real success we've craved. It doesn't matter who's standing next to the premiership captain on GF day.

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

Ling tweeted he was still 12 months away from doing any coaching.

Put a line through his name.

Mitch was supposed to be dressed in purple and Roos wasn't coming. I wouldn't rule anyone out. PJ is the Tony Soprano of the MFC.

[DEELIRIOUS 156]

Is that a guess or fact?

Fact, don't read into Ling saying he won't coach for another 12 months. Smokescreen

[rpfc 27,501]

It's different, which is why some don't like it.

Some don't like it because they don't think it will be enough time, and that making the decision on the next coach 2 or 3 years away could blow up in our face.

I completely understand that point of view, but I agree that the effects of allowing Roos to set us straight will be felt for, hopefully, decades after he has left.

In that regard, 2 years or 5 years - it is largely irrelevant, and having your next coach learning under Roos gives you stability and a future coach with an excellent pedigree.

[rpfc 27,501]

Fact, don't read into Ling saying he won't coach for another 12 months. Smokescreen

And your source of this fact?

[hardtack 10,127]

I would like to see a successor who has some of Roos' qualities in that they possess a history of elite performance as a player, the intellectual ability to see things clearly and apply them equally well, and is a great communicator... For this reason, I believe Ling would be worth pursuing, but if he is ruling himself out at this point, I can only think of two others who would fit the mould at this point... one is Brett Kirk, but the other is a real smokey (get ready to laugh) and is still playing, and that is Bob Murphy. Obviously he has no experience in the coaching caper, but I get the feeling he would take to it with ease.

Edited September 7, 2013 by hardtack

[titan_uranus 22,456]

Ling on 3AW now:

• Hasn't spoken to Melbourne other than a brief coffee with PJ a few weeks ago
• Doesn't believe he's ready to be an assistant coach next year
• Thinks he wants one more year out of the game before starting a coaching career
• Acknowledges that the opportunity to be with Roos and to learn from him is great
• Hasn't spent a lot of time thinking about Melbourne's list, but has been meeting Trengove on a semi-regular list
• 'Talent-wise', isn't sold on our list, but says there are some 'fantastic kids' on our list

All in all, was non-committal either way.

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

Ling on 3AW now:

• Hasn't spoken to Melbourne other than a brief coffee with PJ a few weeks ago
• Doesn't believe he's ready to be an assistant coach next year
• Thinks he wants one more year out of the game before starting a coaching career
• Acknowledges that the opportunity to be with Roos and to learn from him is great
• Hasn't spent a lot of time thinking about Melbourne's list, but has been meeting Trengove on a semi-regular list
• 'Talent-wise', isn't sold on our list, but says there are some 'fantastic kids' on our list

All in all, was non-committal either way.

If Ling wants to be an assistant then head coach then this is his chance to learn from the best and have a guaranteed coaching gig when Roos finishes. Seems beyond dumb if Ling stays in the media for a year then dips his toes in the water. If Ling doesn't take it he can enjoy moving interstate and then waiting for someone to get fired and then join the merry go round of applying for the job. I'm sure he has thought of this and PJ has/will tell him so.

[Chook 14,570]

Ling saying "I'll start coaching in 12 months" is basically him saying "I'd be willing to start coaching now if the offer is good enough."

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

have heard rumours of Voss's management being immediately in touch.

Wouldn't mind it to be honest.

The irony ...

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

To my mind, Simpson seems to be the type who fits what Roos said the club/he's looking for as a successor in the press conference.

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

To my mind, Simpson seems to be the type who fits what Roos said the club/he's looking for as a successor in the press conference.

Would simpson be prepared to wait it out for possibly 3 years? He may think he is ready to go now.

[ThreeOneSix 953]

Roos sees himself as a Manager, as much as anything. He's going to change the whole ethos of the club. And two-three years is plenty of time to do that. And importantly, he'll be able to lay foundations built of concrete, not sand. The legacy he'll leave will be long-lasting.

I like the fact that they're upfront about the succession plan, as the whole club can buy into the blueprint. And they've immediately made the club the most attractive proposition in the market place for any budding senior coach that thinks he can learn from the best and ease into the role.

It's different, which is why some don't like it. But Roos wouldn't have come any other way and in my opinion it gives us the best chance at the real success we've craved. It doesn't matter who's standing next to the premiership captain on GF day.

I think we finally agree on something Ben-hur, good post.

[DEELIRIOUS 156]

And your source of this fact?

The Age

[dee-luded 2,958]

The reason it's important to discuss who this will be is that Roos has mentioned how he sees his senior role more as a manager, leader of standards and cultural change.

He alluded to the senior assistant being the hands on football coach who is more in touch with today's trends etc.

I'm very interested to see who it is - will it be someone Roos already knows and has confidence in being able to step up in 3 years or will it be someone untried where there is more risk that they won't be ready to transition so soon. I'm confident he won't be passing the reins across until he has confidence in them delivering success.

I like Ling but really have no idea if he has the attributes to be a senior coach in that time frame.

I think in today's Footy, the Senior Assistant should be permanently there, who is always the RightHand man, out of the media glare. A savvy type who has a great relationship with the HeadCoach, but wants to be the permanent 2ic.

a Gubby Allen type.

I think the next head coach should come from one of the assistants, who'll spend the next few years learning from Roosy & the Senior Assistant.

[cooko 124]

Was told from a mate with sources at the Swans that Jude Bolton will be an assistant at the Dees next year. Not sure how reliable it is, but interesting

[Jaded No More 58,135]

Further to this he will be senior assistant and midfield coach in 2014

Well my source who said Roos was a done deal a week ago also said Ling has signed. So who knows.

If Roos thinks Ling is the right man I would back him. Remember that Roos has overseen two of probably the best coaches in the AFL currently (maybe two of the top three).

[DEELIRIOUS 156]

Well my source who said Roos was a done deal a week ago also said Ling has signed. So who knows.

If Roos thinks Ling is the right man I would back him. Remember that Roos has overseen two of probably the best coaches in the AFL currently (maybe two of the top three).

RPFC take notechamp

Edited September 7, 2013 by DEELIRIOUS