Werribee v Casey Scorpions

[Rohan 19]

Rodan and Couch = hamstrings, Sellar = concussion, Davis = ribs or kidney

+ Joel Mac = Groin/Quad, Viney pulled up strangely after his final chase on the wing (with a bit of a skip, trying to avoid pressure his foot/hamstring? Physio ran out to pay him a visit but he stayed on. There was nobody on the bench for him to swap with even if there was a problem)

[Redleg 37,599]

Just got back from the game. Unfortunately must have caught them on an off day because it was like watching Melbourne earlier in the season. Poor skills, poor decision making, poor work rate.

Of the Melbourne listed players:

Hogan - was isolated after Sellar and Davis were injured early. Seems to have a decent engine as he had to roam far and wide to get possessions. 3 goals was a good return for not his or the teams best game.

Strauss - need not bother packing his sun screen or tropical kit. Terrible decision making - would like to have seen his kicking efficiency - doubt whether it was over 20 per cent - just coughed it up time and time again - no presence for a supposed a-lister.

Rodan - looked lively until injured - should probably have played down south yesterday.

Davis - looked as though he was forging a good relationship with Hogan - presented well early then rib injury - I was standing near the interchange and he couldnt breath without pain.

Gillies - spud

Couch - quiet then injured

Tynan - still light framed - not sure if he will get a chance this year

Magner - in the game all day but suffered from the team disease of poor disposal when it counted.

Pederson - had to take over the ruck - took some good grabs but see Magner

Barry - quiet early but after quarter time lifted his intensity and work rate - is quick and could be a good kick

Sellar - head clash put him out of the game early - hard to assess

Joel Mac - spud - bad disposal bad decisions gave away stupid free kicks

Viney - fairly quiet - in and under - doesnt get much clear possession - always seems to be under pressure - will improve with a run

Tapscott - again, quiet and struggling to impose himself on the game - not likely to get a call up on that showing

Werribee's physical pressure told on a lot of the Casey players - this seemed to affect the decision making - became handball happy and, like the seniors, guys started to shirk the responsibility and handball to someone else without considering the position of the receiver who was more often than not in a worse position. That is what I mean by shirking responsibility, not physically shirking - it was a pretty physical game and all Casey players went in hard. The mental side of the game wasnt there today.

I see Gillies has improved.

[Alf Stewart 73]

What sort of a contract is Gillies on? Hopefully not another Neeld "moneyball" disaster.

[The Lobster Effect 838]

What sort of a contract is Gillies on? Hopefully not another Neeld "moneyball" disaster.

just this year...

[ThreeOneSix 953]

Gillies has never shown anything, not only here, but at the Cats.

Baffling decision to recruit him, he has always been a spud.

[Rohan 19]

Just got back from the game. Unfortunately must have caught them on an off day because it was like watching Melbourne earlier in the season. Poor skills, poor decision making, poor work rate.

Of the Melbourne listed players:

Hogan - was isolated after Sellar and Davis were injured early. Seems to have a decent engine as he had to roam far and wide to get possessions. 3 goals was a good return for not his or the teams best game.

Strauss - need not bother packing his sun screen or tropical kit. Terrible decision making - would like to have seen his kicking efficiency - doubt whether it was over 20 per cent - just coughed it up time and time again - no presence for a supposed a-lister.

Rodan - looked lively until injured - should probably have played down south yesterday.

Davis - looked as though he was forging a good relationship with Hogan - presented well early then rib injury - I was standing near the interchange and he couldnt breath without pain.

Gillies - spud

Couch - quiet then injured

Tynan - still light framed - not sure if he will get a chance this year

Magner - in the game all day but suffered from the team disease of poor disposal when it counted.

Pederson - had to take over the ruck - took some good grabs but see Magner

Barry - quiet early but after quarter time lifted his intensity and work rate - is quick and could be a good kick

Sellar - head clash put him out of the game early - hard to assess

Joel Mac - spud - bad disposal bad decisions gave away stupid free kicks

Viney - fairly quiet - in and under - doesnt get much clear possession - always seems to be under pressure - will improve with a run

Tapscott - again, quiet and struggling to impose himself on the game - not likely to get a call up on that showing

Werribee's physical pressure told on a lot of the Casey players - this seemed to affect the decision making - became handball happy and, like the seniors, guys started to shirk the responsibility and handball to someone else without considering the position of the receiver who was more often than not in a worse position. That is what I mean by shirking responsibility, not physically shirking - it was a pretty physical game and all Casey players went in hard. The mental side of the game wasnt there today.

Gordo, you missed Jordie but the description of Tapsott's game will probably do?

[El Gordo 13]

Thanks yes another whose disposal skills are woeful

[Mongrel Dee 56]

Gillies has never shown anything, not only here, but at the Cats.

Baffling decision to recruit him, he has always been a spud.

Was given a 2nd opportunity and failed. Bye bye.

[rjay 23,912]

Taggert in the development team???

3 goals and in the best, I know Magner, Couch and a host of others are good VFL players but this kid has them covered for class and the ability to play at the highest level. I hope he doesn't become a waisted talent.

Edited July 14, 2013 by rjay

[Demonsterative 1,920]

Gordo, you missed Jordie but the description of Tapsott's game will probably do?

I was there for 3 quarters and tried to watch Jordie to get an idea if he is some one the club should preservere with. I got bored watching.

Slow even for the VFL.

Lost his opponent in the spread too easily.

Competes in close but does not have skills in close either

Terrible foot skills

[Axis of Bob 10,224]

I was there for 3 quarters and tried to watch Jordie to get an idea if he is some one the club should preservere with. I got bored watching.

Slow even for the VFL.

Lost his opponent in the spread too easily.

Competes in close but does not have skills in close either

Terrible foot skills

This post tells me you were only seeing what you wanted to see. Jordie used the ball very well today, even by foot where he kicked well on both feet (which was a pleasant surprise).

If he was BOG with 4 goals, your post would have been along the lines of: "Had a good game but he was slow and can't kick. VFL is his level".

[Demonsterative 1,920]

This post tells me you were only seeing what you wanted to see. Jordie used the ball very well today, even by foot where he kicked well on both feet (which was a pleasant surprise).

If he was BOG with 4 goals, your post would have been along the lines of: "Had a good game but he was slow and can't kick. VFL is his level".

Disagree. I'm not one who hates Jordie. Just my opinion of what I saw today. In fact Casey had a strong midfield (on paper) today and they were thrashed out of the middle and all over the ground by Werribee. Jordie had little influence on the game.

His is coming back from injury and I hope he proves me wrong.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,636]

This post tells me you were only seeing what you wanted to see. Jordie used the ball very well today, even by foot where he kicked well on both feet (which was a pleasant surprise).

If he was BOG with 4 goals, your post would have been along the lines of: "Had a good game but he was slow and can't kick. VFL is his level".

Consider myself a pretty big fan of Jordie, also missed most of the first.

Considered his disposal very ordinary today

[Axis of Bob 10,224]

Fair enough. I considered him to have used the ball pretty well, especially in a team where the general level of disposal ranged between awful and deplorable all day.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,636]

Fair enough. I considered him to have used the ball pretty well, especially in a team where the general level of disposal ranged between awful and deplorable all day.

He was far from our worst, but we were pretty ordinary today

[Forest Demon 4,681]

What the hell is going on? I can usually rely on the Casey Scorpions vs (opponent) thread to cheer me up a little after a dees spanking.

[jnrmac 18,971]

Maric gets his 5th.

Sounds like he knows where the goals are .....

[Slartibartfast 15,774]

Second time Casey has been thrashed after a bye.

[CHAMP 347]

This post tells me you were only seeing what you wanted to see. Jordie used the ball very well today, even by foot where he kicked well on both feet (which was a pleasant surprise).

If he was BOG with 4 goals, your post would have been along the lines of: "Had a good game but he was slow and can't kick. VFL is his level".

"I'd like to see that!"

[rhaz 342]

http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:VFL%202013%20Rd%2013%20-%20Werribee%20Tigers%20v%20Casey%20Scorpions&image_id=294791

photo gallery from the game

[Gippsland Dee 365]

http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:VFL%202013%20Rd%2013%20-%20Werribee%20Tigers%20v%20Casey%20Scorpions&image_id=294791

photo gallery from the game

were these taken by you Rhaz? if so great job!

[ThreeOneSix 953]

Norf must be disappointed that Majak will never make it, such a great athlete and physical specimen.

Just a shame he'll never have the skills to really dominate AFL.

But, then again, I never thought Minson would amount to much and now he's AA ruckman.

[Demonland 64,918]

NOT ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPT by KC from Casey

If ever a game didn't go according to the script, it was this one. The Werribee Tigers were coming off a midweek Foxtel Cup defeat on the other side of the continent, a game played in driving rain, and had to front the second placed Casey Scorpions with 15 AFL listed players (and the luxury of being able to leave a couple in the Development League). Casey dominated the first seven or eight minutes of the game scoring 3.1.19 to nothing with the aid of the breeze and appeared set retake top spot on the ladder with an easy win.

Then everything went wrong for the Scorpions and fifty minutes and ten unanswered Werribee goals later, they were staring down the barrel of a damaging defeat.

Although the Tigers have been the Scorps' bogey team in recent years and Avalon Airport Oval hasn't been a happy hunting ground for them, the Scorpions had every reason to be confident with their flying start but perhaps they got ahead of themselves and forgot that you need to work hard in difficult conditions such as those that prevailed at Werribee yesterday. The home side certainly took note and dug deep to reel back two goals in the last twenty minutes of the opening term before taking complete control of the game in the second to open up a 47-point half time lead. They did it with strength, played direct football and used their knowledge of the local conditions to good advantage.

In many respects this game was similar to the round six loss at the hands of the Box Hill Hawks which also came off a week's bye and in which the damage was caused when the team lost all momentum in the second quarter and then fought grimly to prevent an all out massacre.

As coincidence would have it, Cam Pedersen was also Casey's best that day as he was against the Tigers in yesterday's clash. This time, with teammates going down like nine pins, Pedersen was forced to fill the gaps, even taking his turn in the ruck against bigger opponents. Skipper Evan Panozza also worked hard to keep his team in the game and Dom Barry produced some classy bursts but with Tom Couch injured, Danny Nicholls out and James Magner well covered most of the time, the Casey midfield was well below its best. Compounding the woes was the constant stream of injuries, all to AFL-listed players (Davis, Sellar, Rodan, Couch and later Macdonald) which left the team without interchange and bereft of the opportunity to rotate players other than on the ground itself. In the circumstances, the team did well to limit the damage to a 56-point defeat.

Notwithstanding, there needs to be a fair amount of soul searching at Casey with some tough games in the run home to the finals. They simply need to work a lot harder if they want the rest of the season to go according to the script.

HOW THE DEMONS FARED

Not particularly well.

Apart from the stats as below, there were a few injuries. Troy Davis was doing well until he copped one in the ribs in the first quarter. James Sellar was involved in a head clash and appeared concussed. David Rodan last a little under a half before hurting his hamstring. Tom Couch was also off with a hammy and it was reported late that Joel Macdonald also suffered a groin or quad injury.

Jesse Hogan's three goals were achieved without any service from downfield and at times he wandered far and wide at times to gather possessions.

Dominic Barry 14 kicks 9 handballs 23 disposals 4 mark 3 tackles 1 goal

Thomas Couch 9 kicks 9 handballs 18 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 1 behind

Troy Davis 7 kicks 2 handballs 9 disposals 5 marks 1 tackle

Thomas Gillies 9 kicks 11 handballs 20 disposals 6 marks 1 tackle

Jesse Hogan 10 kicks 4 handballs 14 disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 3 goals

Joel Macdonald 7 kicks 6 handballs 13 disposals 1 mark 1 tackle 1 behind

Jordie McKenzie 10 kicks 13 handballs 23 disposals 2 marks 3 tackles

James Magner 17 kicks 10 handballs 27 disposals 5 marks 3 tackles 1 behind

Cameron Pedersen 14 kicks 8 handballs 22 disposals 8 marks 3 tackles 19 hit outs

David Rodan 6 kicks 5 handballs 11 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 1 goal 1 behind

James Sellar 3 kicks 5 handballs 8 disposals 2 marks

James Strauss 11 kicks 10 handballs 21 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles

Luke Tapscott 7 kicks 6 handballs 13 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 1 goal 3 behinds

Joshua Tynan 9 kicks 9 handballs -18 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles

Jack Viney 10 kicks 6 handballs 16 disposals 5 tackles

Casey Scorpions 3.2.20 4.5.29 6.9.45 8.10.58

Werribee Tigers 2.2.14 12.5.77 13.6.84 17.12.114

Goals

Casey Scorpions Hogan 3 Hill 2 Barry Rodan Tapscott

Werribee Tigers Maric 5 Brown Castello Daw Harper McKinley McMahon Mather Meredith Ross Sierakowski Warren Wright

Best

Casey Scorpions Pedersen Panozza Strauss Barry J Tynan Macdonald

Werribee Tigers Maric Daw Clouston McMahon Sodomaco Ross

Unlike its senior counterpart, the Casey AFL Victoria Development League team handled the ground, the conditions and the opposition with polish and turned an early deficit into a solid 46-point victory against fellow finals contender Werribee.

CaseyScorpions 2.1.13 8.4.52 12.5.77 16.10.106

Werribee Tigers 5.2 6.4.40 8.10.58 8.12.60

Goals

Casey Scorpions Fowler 4 Hughes Riseley Taggert 3 Anderson 2 Lang

Werribee Tigers Hicks Tudor 2 Bolton Kershaw Sullivan White

Best

Casey Scorpions Clay Lindsay Taggert Blackie Fowler Hughes

Werribee Tigers White Hicks Fairley Bolton Sullivan Laracy

[H_T 2,941]

If the MFC is interested in someone with good foot skills and who impressed in the Foxtel Cup v East Fremantle in deplorable conditions as well as yesterday, Ben Brown of Werribee looks to be a player. Impressive up and comer I would suggest.

I'd suggest a late pick/rookie spot.

[beelzebub 22,225]

If the MFC is interested in someone with good foot skills and who impressed in the Foxtel Cup v East Fremantle in deplorable conditions as well as yesterday, Ben Brown of Werribee looks to be a player. Impressive up and comer I would suggest.

I'd suggest a late pick/rookie spot.

This is the sort of thing Im always interested to hear, players that can play but often go under our radar. Not every player needs be AA. Just fair dinkum 100% effort