Tom Mitchell

[Binmans PA 26,235]

Have no idea if we're any chance anymore, but Mitchell would still be high on my shopping list.

[Binmans PA 26,235]

And 'Over The Fence', there was more to come?

[DeeZee 6,759]

Wasn't very good today against GWS

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1 hour ago, DeeZee said:

Wasn't very good today against GWS

25 disposals and 75 points? Seems like a pretty average/good game stats wise, though I wasn't paying too much attention to his effectiveness, he's certainly not a matchwinner yet is he?

Edited September 10, 2016 by DominatrixTyson

[DeeZee 6,759]

Yeah, surprised at those numbers hardly noticed him.

No doubt a quality player though

[Demon Disciple 11,027]

he is a handball first type player. Similar to a Priddis in that he racks up huge possessions via handball and hurt factor is nowhere near the likes of a Dangerfield (kick first type player).

[Demons11 6,404]

1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

he is a handball first type player. Similar to a Priddis in that he racks up huge possessions via handball and hurt factor is nowhere near the likes of a Dangerfield (kick first type player).

Yeah a Priddis type is a horrible option.  Let's give Mr. Brownlow a call and see what he thinks. 

[Mach5 4,482]

Somehow I think the comparison was in regards to style, not quality...

[Binmans PA 26,235]

Mitchell was the one that tried to lift them in the second quarter, but didn't have enough help. He's a very good player and he'd be a brilliant addition to our young midfield.

[old55 21,356]

Tom Mitchell is a very good player and would be a great addition to our list.  He's really another Nathan Jones and there's nothing wrong with that.  I don't think his type is our highest priority but if we could get him it would be great.

[Redleg 37,725]

13 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Tom Mitchell is a very good player and would be a great addition to our list.  He's really another Nathan Jones and there's nothing wrong with that.  I don't think his type is our highest priority but if we could get him it would be great.

According to the Newshounds he is off to the Hawks and Swans will agree, as the Buddy and Tippett money is now squeezing their cap.

He has apparently been offered less than he got this year, by the Swans.

[DeeZee 6,759]

So the Hawks possibly get OMeara and Mitchell?

How does that happen?

Oh well if it does , maybe we can then pounce on an Isaac Smith.

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15 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

So the Hawks possibly get OMeara and Mitchell?

How does that happen?

Oh well if it does , maybe we can then pounce on an Isaac Smith.

It's highly likely that if given the chance, both players would nominate Hawthorn, but Hawthorn won't have the picks to get both deals done. In which case, I'm hoping we can step in and snap up Mitchell.

[Mach5 4,482]

23 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

So the Hawks possibly get OMeara and Mitchell?

How does that happen?

Oh well if it does , maybe we can then pounce on an Isaac Smith.

 

Because Hodge, Burgoyne & Gibson took peanuts because they know their bodies are cooked, and will break down eventually next year.

Gibson has a bulging disc in his back, and knows he's unlikely to play much. I still don't know how he got on the park on Friday.

[Adzman 2,085]

Hawks can't get enough picks to land those 2 unless they shed some of their best 22. Hartung looks Richmond bound which will land them a pick, but even if they trade this year's first rounder, next year's first rounder, this year's second rounder, next year's second rounder and the Hartung pick they are probably a pick short to land O'meara and Mitchell. Gold Coast have said publicly they will play hardball with O'meara and the going rate is 2 first rounders. Given the where hawthorn's picks fall, their 2 first rounders and a second rounder might not do it for GCS.

[Moonshadow 16,258]

3 hours ago, Adzman said:

Hawks can't get enough picks to land those 2 unless they shed some of their best 22. Hartung looks Richmond bound which will land them a pick, but even if they trade this year's first rounder, next year's first rounder, this year's second rounder, next year's second rounder and the Hartung pick they are probably a pick short to land O'meara and Mitchell. Gold Coast have said publicly they will play hardball with O'meara and the going rate is 2 first rounders. Given the where hawthorn's picks fall, their 2 first rounders and a second rounder might not do it for GCS.

And they are required to use 2 first round picks across 4 years

[Robbie57 1,991]

On 12 September 2016 at 8:47 AM, Adzman said:

Hawks can't get enough picks to land those 2 unless they shed some of their best 22. Hartung looks Richmond bound which will land them a pick, but even if they trade this year's first rounder, next year's first rounder, this year's second rounder, next year's second rounder and the Hartung pick they are probably a pick short to land O'meara and Mitchell. Gold Coast have said publicly they will play hardball with O'meara and the going rate is 2 first rounders. Given the where hawthorn's picks fall, their 2 first rounders and a second rounder might not do it for GCS.

Jake Niall on the coach can't see a way dawks can get this done. Swans don't want to do it but can't fit his demands in their cap.  Mention that they also would not want him at the Hawks. So is he smoky for another club. 

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32 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

Jake Niall on the coach can't see a way dawks can get this done. Swans don't want to do it but can't fit his demands in their cap.  Mention that they also would not want him at the Hawks. So is he smoky for another club. 

Healy also made the correct point that why would Sydney let him go to one of their direct competitors. We might just be one of the clubs in the box-seat for him if we've offered him cash and he wants to come to Victoria.

[Moonshadow 16,258]

17 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

Jake Niall on the coach can't see a way dawks can get this done. Swans don't want to do it but can't fit his demands in their cap.  Mention that they also would not want him at the Hawks. So is he smoky for another club. 

Hawks first rounder this year for Mitchell. Hawks second rounder this year and next year's first rounder for O'Meara. They may have to give up a reasonable player, possibly a trade of picks as well. The problem for the Hawks is that their picks aren't going to be that high in the first round, around 14ish.

[rjay 23,927]

Interesting to see the Hawk team they put up on "On the Couch" with Mitchell, Vickery & O'Meara....still looked like an ageing team with problems ahead to me.

Brown was the only to make some sense, saying they have nothing on their list under 23yo. Dunstall said this is why they are after the young mids.

Said this before but they are taking a punt with O'Meara (he will cost them Breust & a pick), I think Mitchell is beige & Vickery a desperation move.

They really miss Roughy...

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17 minutes ago, rjay said:

Interesting to see the Hawk team they put up on "On the Couch" with Mitchell, Vickery & O'Meara....still looked like an ageing team with problems ahead to me.

Brown was the only to make some sense, saying they have nothing on their list under 23yo. Dunstall said this is why they are after the young mids.

Said this before but they are taking a punt with O'Meara (he will cost them Breust & a pick), I think Mitchell is beige & Vickery a desperation move.

They really miss Roughy...

Yep, exactly. I was sitting next to my Hawthorn-supporting fiancee and said "that team does not scare me".

The arrogance of Dunstall. I've really gone off him this season. He plays this seemingly negative, hard-on-Hawthorn card to appear unbiased, but he is probably more biased than anyone and he let his little facade slip tonight. He appears super harsh on them and then when people legitimately begin to question Hawthorn, he sits back and arrogantly dismisses these thoughts as 'getting ahead of themselves'.

To be honest, it's probably how I'd play the media game if I was a commentator too, but what a [censored]. I can't wait to see these pompous flogs fall off the cliff.

[buck_nekkid 5,504]

They could trade Fitzpatrick back to the Dee's for our second rounder. (That really was a joke....)

[McQueen 17,864]

11 hours ago, Robbie57 said:

Jake Niall on the coach can't see a way dawks can get this done. Swans don't want to do it but can't fit his demands in their cap.  Mention that they also would not want him at the Hawks. So is he smoky for another club. 

I really do hope that when we're top 4 and challenging, our youngsters aren't driven by the dollar like this.

I get it that Franklin and Tippett are the main cause variable but still, they are a flag chance and a best 22 player is considering leaving. 

[mo64 5,209]

38 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I really do hope that when we're top 4 and challenging, our youngsters aren't driven by the dollar like this.

I get it that Franklin and Tippett are the main cause variable but still, they are a flag chance and a best 22 player is considering leaving. 

If Franklin and Tippett want ongoing premiership success, they're the ones that should be taking a haircut, like the senior players at Geelong and Hawthorn have over their premiership years. Apparently the money being offered to Mitchell by the Swans is about the same as what we're paying Melksham. It's left Mitchell with no choice but to leave.

Edited September 20, 2016 by mo64

[McQueen 17,864]

15 minutes ago, mo64 said:

If Franklin and Tippett want ongoing premiership success, they're the ones that should be taking a haircut, like the senior players at Geelong and Hawthorn have over their premiership years. Apparently the money being offered to Mitchell by the Swans is about the same as what we're paying Melksham. It's left Mitchell with no choice but to leave.

This scenario certainly does expose the negative side of long term, high price contracts.