13 minutes ago, Diamond said:

Jaeger O'Meara anyone?

Nah too much risk for the asking price....

I like these Mitchell rumors better. Need something after Saturday to keep me going

15 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

I couldn't disagree more.

We have an absolute gold mine of ball winners, most of which were 'elite' in their 18's year. Brayshaw, Petracca, Oliver, Viney, Tyson, ANB.

Thats six who are pure ball winners and obviously the club will back themselves to develop them into 'elite AFL' ball winners.

Putting all your eggs in one basket is the last thing you'd want to do as a list manager/recruiter/coach.

We need players that will compliment our ball winning mids with different attributes.

That should be an obvious observation on the back of some of the games we've lost this year.

 

 

ANB's not gonna make it, mate. Not at Melbourne anyway.

I would prefer Prestia, but Mitchell comes uninjured and is just as good in the clutches.

Sydney putting all their eggs in one basket with similar inside contested types don't seem to be struggling. In fact, it's pretty obvious that's the type of midfield Roos has been trying to build over the last 2-3 years.

I'd also argue that many of the games we've lost this year have been the ones where our mids haven't turned up. It's that lack of 23-27 year old age demographic in our midfield that has cost us. Mitchell would address this immediately.

Like yourself, Steve, I have no doubt Brayshaw, Petracca and Oliver will become clearance mids, but they're not there yet.

3 hours ago, stuie said:

Tell me more person with 1st post who joined Demonland 12 minutes ago...

 

Come on stu, no need to pick on a newbie. Let's see how it pans out and take it from there. I'd like to believe Mitchell would be in our sights and OTF is right. Are you saying you'd not want him at the Dees? 

On 25 April 2013 at 11:22 PM, bush demon said:

I'm not saying 'recruitment' in the 70's was right or wrong, just saying it happened in that period and is not exclusive to the brand new world of football-as-a-commodity, which is the current fashion. I just get sick of the newby supporters who just seem to think that players can be got without other clubs having similar designs on our playing list, which is a shootout we would, and will lose in the future. i also get sick of posters banging on with their latest recruitment theory and concluding with 'thoughts'? as though there is any thought to be had... as though the poster had any sway whatsoever in the runnings of the club. i wonder what the players think about their being 'traded up' by eager onliners in these cyber garage sales. yes, they must think the people who support our club are a joke. at least the ones who conceal their identity in these swap meets. i admit that i maybe somewhat jaded in this regard, even out of fashion.

So your real name is bush demon?

Doesn't make a lot of sense.  Prestia is a far more damaging player, and would be asking about the same as Mitchell. Maybe Prestia knocked us back, and Mitchell is the next cab off the rank.

Edited August 25, 20168 yr by mo64

3 hours ago, johndemons said:

What would we trade for Tom Mitchell? A 2017 first round pick? Salem?

If we lost Salem & gained Mitchell, I think that'd be a net loss.

16 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Doesn't make a lot of sense.  Prestia is a far more damaging player, and would be asking about the same as Mitchell. Maybe Prestia knocked us back, and Mitchell is the next cab off the rank.

Or maybe the club did it's DD and Prestia's knee didn't come up. I'm a fan of Mitchell and would love him at the club at the right price. Having said that, I hear every Hawthorn fan thinks he's going there in 2017.

Edited August 25, 20168 yr by Moonshadow

11 hours ago, mo64 said:

Doesn't make a lot of sense.  Prestia is a far more damaging player, and would be asking about the same as Mitchell. Maybe Prestia knocked us back, and Mitchell is the next cab off the rank.

There is no way Prestia knocked us back. if we came up with the money, he would be ours. We cooled.

15 hours ago, stuie said:

Tell me more person with 1st post who joined Demonland 12 minutes ago...

 

Can't be more or less right or wrong than the rest of us here throwing darts at a board.

15 hours ago, Over the fence said:

I have it on good authority that the club has offered Mitchell a lucrative contract.

An offer currently tabled by Sydney is approximately $550k / year, although negotiations appear to have soured.

The MFC is willing to table an offer approximately $100 - 150k more/ year, for which Sydney cannot compete against with their already tight salary cap.

I'm still awaiting intel regarding the length of the offer.

More to come.

What do they need to give up for him? 

16 hours ago, Over the fence said:

I have it on good authority that the club has offered Mitchell a lucrative contract.

An offer currently tabled by Sydney is approximately $550k / year, although negotiations appear to have soured.

The MFC is willing to table an offer approximately $100 - 150k more/ year, for which Sydney cannot compete against with their already tight salary cap.

I'm still awaiting intel regarding the length of the offer.

More to come.

What's the name of that dude who shows up at the end of each season, with cool, unfounded rumors, and outright lies about huge player trades?

 

Never mind, I remember now.

Welcome back chiliboy.

Love your work

As good as Mitchell is, not the type of player we should be chasing especially in terms of $$$s and what we'd have to give the Swans.

16 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Underwhelmed if true.

And also from a list 'balance' point of view, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Any players that we want to add to our midfield mix should be adding something we lack. Speed and foot-skills namely. 

List balance and attribute diversity is what we need. Not another fairly one-dimensional, one-paced, high accumulating contested ball winner.

We have enough of those.

This guys is seriously rated by Swans - they cannot afford to keep him though without losing a JPK, Jack, Heeney, Mills, Parker...not to mention Tippett and Buddy on huge deals. Ala Mumford in recent times, something/someone decent has to give. I have it on good authority he is leaving the Swans - AFLPA friend works with his old man (who does stuff for AFL) and has showed me texts from him saying that he just can't stay at Swans with what he's getting offered elsewhere. He will probably/could potentially win a flag, so not a bad way to go out.

If we get him - it would be huge!

Surely we can't be thinking of overpaying a player that hasn't come from Collingwood or Essendon?

 

Can we look a little long term, considering the prospect of a 10%+ salary cap increase on the horizon?

Edited August 26, 20168 yr by johndemons

Re my previous post: i will put my neck out GNF style and say that if Tom Mitchell is playing at the Swans next year, I will never post on here again

49 minutes ago, Red and Blue Flame said:

Re my previous post: i will put my neck out GNF style and say that if Tom Mitchell is playing at the Swans next year, I will never post on here again

Trouble is, the word on the streets is that he will be in a brown and gold jumper. That doesn't help the rest of the competition.

20 hours ago, Over the fence said:

I have it on good authority that the club has offered Mitchell a lucrative contract.

An offer currently tabled by Sydney is approximately $550k / year, although negotiations appear to have soured.

The MFC is willing to table an offer approximately $100 - 150k more/ year, for which Sydney cannot compete against with their already tight salary cap.

I'm still awaiting intel regarding the length of the offer.

More to come.

 

Now youve gone and got me all excited for trade week and trade Radio

Bring on Barrett the scumbag and the gravely dulcet tones of Terry Wallace

 

Why do we always throw up Salem as a trade, it never ceases to amaze me.

13 minutes ago, Dante said:

 

Why do we always throw up Salem as a trade, it never ceases to amaze me.

Maybe people are concerned about his ongoing thyroid issue?

Just now, Petraccattack said:

Maybe people are concerned about his ongoing thyroid issue?

Maybe they just underestimate him.

16 minutes ago, Dante said:

Why do we always throw up Salem as a trade, it never ceases to amaze me.

The same reason some people were throwing up Dom Tyson last year, his best was not fresh in their memory.

Edited August 26, 20168 yr by johndemons

I think it's a combination of things with Salem. Yes, injury is one of them, but also we've only seen attributes and anyone that says they've seen his best is disillusioned. We haven't seen his best. He's one of the kids on our list that seemingly has the tools to become an absolute top grader, but in his three years on the list hasn't managed to show us his best.

Again, I'm a fan, but he'd be one I'd entertain a trade for the right price, whereas the rest of our young brigade are untouchable for mine. They are: Tyson, Viney, Hogan, Brayshaw, Hunt, Oliver, Petracca, Gawn, Stretch, Frost, the McDonald's and Weideman.

I don't think you can have too many quality midfielders. Sydney haven't struggled with their 'one paced midfield with poor kicking skills' and they are again, rightly, flag favourites

especially in a few years without vince and jones

36 minutes ago, Dante said:

 

Why do we always throw up Salem as a trade, it never ceases to amaze me.

Perhaps because in order to get a good player you have to give up a good player.

If we are remotely serious about trying to get into someone like Prestia, O'Meara or Mitchell, I suspect we would be required to move a young gifted player (or two) and picks in order to satisfy needs.

Tyson, Salem, Kent, Brayshaw, Oliver, Petracca, Viney, Hogan, Hunt, Weidemann. Probably our best 10 young players... Gold Coast potentially losing 2 of their best 6. Mitchell could be rated in the top 6-8 young players at the Swans and is just coming into his prime.

I can see that this is what it would take to get the clubs to release these players... can't say I want to do the trade though. Gold Coast don't want picks, they don't need more picks, they need experienced players coming into their prime, they have a heap of picks this year already.

Salem *could* be attractive trade bait, except hasn't been on the park to justify it yet... 

 

17 minutes ago, DubDee said:

I don't think you can have too many quality midfielders. Sydney haven't struggled with their 'one paced midfield with poor kicking skills' and they are again, rightly, flag favourites

especially in a few years without vince and jones

Totally agree. Too many Demonlanders are happy to rest on their laurels in regards to our engine room.