Whilst we are giving regular games to guys like Bugg and Vandenberg, we should be strongly in the market for quality players such as Mitchell. Surely we can come up with a better offer than Hawthorn.

4 minutes ago, poita said:

Whilst we are giving regular games to guys like Bugg and Vandenberg, we should be strongly in the market for quality players such as Mitchell. Surely we can come up with a better offer than Hawthorn.

Indeed.

9 minutes ago, poita said:

Whilst we are giving regular games to guys like Bugg and Vandenberg, we should be strongly in the market for quality players such as Mitchell. Surely we can come up with a better offer than Hawthorn.

Yeah but Mitchell still has to want to come to us. That's where the problem is.

 

7 minutes ago, stuie said:

Yeah but Mitchell still has to want to come to us. That's where the problem is.

 

If the money were good enough I'm sure he'd want to come. From all accounts the only reason he is leaving is for money, I'm not sure if we are after players who are just chasing the coin. 

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

If the money were good enough I'm sure he'd want to come. From all accounts the only reason he is leaving is for money, I'm not sure if we are after players who are just chasing the coin. 

And Hawthorn (who are famous for not paying highly) are offering him way more coin than anyone else would?

 

4 minutes ago, stuie said:

And Hawthorn (who are famous for not paying highly) are offering him way more coin than anyone else would?

 

They're also interested in Vickery and an injury prone O'Meara. I think they're attempting to delay their slide down the ladder. 

Edited September 21, 20168 yr by Ethan Tremblay

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

They're also interested in Vickery and an injured probe O'Meara. I think they're attempting to delay their slide down the ladder. 

Sterling insight as always...

 

So... where's that poster claiming we'd offered Mitchell a lucrative contract? I'm awaiting more news, rather than petty squabbles. 

Edited September 21, 20168 yr by A F

On 9/20/2016 at 11:09 AM, mo64 said:

If Franklin and Tippett want ongoing premiership success, they're the ones that should be taking a haircut, like the senior players at Geelong and Hawthorn have over their premiership years. Apparently the money being offered to Mitchell by the Swans is about the same as what we're paying Melksham. It's left Mitchell with no choice but to leave.

Agree, although I am sure this is overstated.
When Hodge, Mitchell, Gibson & Burgoyne re-signed this season, Hodge publicly spoke about taking a haircut to let the club recruit big names to keep them in contention.
Nice bit of spin from Hodge, but essentially he & his mates were simply offered much smaller contracts because they are cooked.
Their options were probably accept this one-year deal for peanuts, or retire.

On 21 September 2016 at 10:26 AM, Ethan Tremblay said:

If the money were good enough I'm sure he'd want to come. From all accounts the only reason he is leaving is for money, I'm not sure if we are after players who are just chasing the coin. 

This is why clubs like us continue to struggle.

Mitchell or another quality player might want sign with say a Hawthorn and take 600K. 

For Melbourne to entice the same player we would potentially have to offer 20% more and a longer contract term. 

Not saying that this is always going to be the case but historically it has. 

I think an interesting part of this is how the Hawks plan to get the deal done, if another went to Mitchell with the same sort of offer and said we can get the deal done, he might be a chance to take it because the Hawks will really struggle with this trade.

5 minutes ago, Abe said:

I think an interesting part of this is how the Hawks plan to get the deal done, if another went to Mitchell with the same sort of offer and said we can get the deal done, he might be a chance to take it because the Hawks will really struggle with this trade.

Just postulating, how would we get it done, if we wanted to say keep next year's first pick, as we haven't got this year's ? 

Edited September 23, 20168 yr by Redleg

Just now, Abe said:

I think an interesting part of this is how the Hawks plan to get the deal done, if another went to Mitchell with the same sort of offer and said we can get the deal done, he might be a chance to take it because the Hawks will really struggle with this trade.

Agree with your statement about the Hawks getting a deal done. 

O'Merea - GCS have publicly stated that they want a deal similar to what GWS got for Treloar. 

Mitchell - Swans will be asking for a fair bit too. 

Hawks Should get a decent pick for Hill. Maybe the compensation pick they will get for Mayne if its second round. 

Swans might have a look at Shoenmakers. 

 

7 minutes ago, Abe said:

I think an interesting part of this is how the Hawks plan to get the deal done, if another went to Mitchell with the same sort of offer and said we can get the deal done, he might be a chance to take it because the Hawks will really struggle with this trade.

Do we really need a player like Mitchell?  I know he's a quality player but we have a few similar types already. 

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

Just postulating, how would we get it done?

I'm not sure we're in the position to do a trade like that this year "Redleg" or even what the Swans think he's worth in a trade, i'd say our 2017 first round pick and something else would be a starting point if i had to guess. 

a club like Richmond however could offer up Deledio and get a first round pick in and potentially make the move a lot easier for Mitchell, obviously he feels the money the Swans are offering isn't enough, and wants to get as close to the same sort of on field success as possible for what he feels is more appropriate remuneration 

6 minutes ago, Abe said:

I'm not sure we're in the position to do a trade like that this year "Redleg" or even what the Swans think he's worth in a trade, i'd say our 2017 first round pick and something else would be a starting point if i had to guess. 

a club like Richmond however could offer up Deledio and get a first round pick in and potentially make the move a lot easier for Mitchell, obviously he feels the money the Swans are offering isn't enough, and wants to get as close to the same sort of on field success as possible for what he feels is more appropriate remuneration 

Then he wouldn't be looking at Richmond. 

Tigers will find it tough to move Deludio on due to the contract value his on next year. 

1 minute ago, Flamingdees said:

Tigers will find it tough to move Deludio on due to the contract value his on next year. 

Same problem with Rockliff. 

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

Same problem with Rockliff. 

Unless Tigers perhaps pay part of Deludios contract. Same goes for Brisbane with Rockliff. 

Interesting that it's been reported that the dogs will pay Clokes entire contract next year without the Pies having to chip in.  As a result you will see the Pies accepting a say pick 50 or so when they could have got more if they'd agreed to keep part of Clokes salary on their books  

 

39 minutes ago, Abe said:

I think an interesting part of this is how the Hawks plan to get the deal done, if another went to Mitchell with the same sort of offer and said we can get the deal done, he might be a chance to take it because the Hawks will really struggle with this trade.

agree. our fd should be following this closely

10 disposals in the first quarter, 3 clearances. Matchwinning quarter there. He absolutely smashed the Cats in tight. $500-700k might be a bargain.

Edited September 23, 20168 yr by DominatrixTyson

5 hours ago, Flamingdees said:

Unless Tigers perhaps pay part of Deludios contract. Same goes for Brisbane with Rockliff. 

Interesting that it's been reported that the dogs will pay Clokes entire contract next year without the Pies having to chip in.  As a result you will see the Pies accepting a say pick 50 or so when they could have got more if they'd agreed to keep part of Clokes salary on their books  

 

 

We had to do it with Travis. Depends on how much they want to move these players on.

40 minutes ago, DominatrixTyson said:

10 disposals in the first quarter, 3 clearances. Matchwinning quarter there. He absolutely smashed the Cats in tight. $500-700k might be a bargain.

Just don't let the Hawks get him, everyone. 

Hard to see the Hawks bottoming out even with four or so players coming to the end. 

Free agency and the fact that players from other clubs want to join them bloody sucks. 

Hate those Hawks. 

I can't believe that the Swans will let this bloke go, for a bit more money. Absolutely ridiculous.

They either delist or trade someone, or convince some players like Buddy , Tippett, McVeigh, Kennedy, Jack, Hanneberry etc, to take a small pay cut.

You don't lose a player like Mitchell.

And they won't.