Training - Monday 28th January, 2013

[ILLDieADemon 804]

2 more weeks!!!!!!

[Guest José Mourinho]

So why is he on the LTIL?

Because 8 weeks from now (minimum stay on LTIL) the home & away season won't have started yet, so we can elevate Gawn in round 3 if we want, but in the first 2 rounds we can play Magner (or another rookie) whilst Gawn gets up to full fitness?

[bing181 9,425]

The guy is running laps at pace and kicking the footy. It's clearly a strategic decision of some sort.

As I see it: LTI is minimum 8 weeks. If we wait, and he's not ready by the start of the season, we can't then upgrade a rookie without starting the whole LTI process at that point - which then removes Max for the 8 weeks. By putting him on now, we can replace him with a rookie if necessary, or take him off the LTI when/if he's ready to go. LTI is 8 weeks minimum, but after that, it's week by week.

Interesting that Trengove and Clark aren't LTI'd as well. Perhaps they're hoping to get them up sooner rather than later.

Edit: Crossed posts with JM, but what the heck, maybe people are interested enough in Big Max to basically read the same post twice.

Edited January 29, 2013 by bing181

[DemonWA 3,940]

As I see it: LTI is minimum 8 weeks. If we wait, and he's not ready by the start of the season, we can't then upgrade a rookie without starting the whole LTI process at that point - which then removes Max for the 8 weeks. By putting him on now, we can replace him with a rookie if necessary, or take him off the LTI when/if he's ready to go.

Interesting that Trengove and Clark aren't LTI'd as well. Perhaps they're hoping to get them up sooner rather than later.

good points, especially regarding Clark and Trengove. Gawn is running and kicking and the other 2 who arent on the LTI list arent!

[McQueen 17,867]

Interesting that Trengove and Clark aren't LTI'd as well. Perhaps they're hoping to get them up sooner rather than later.

Maybe they did that so we didn't all have babies.

[Guest José Mourinho]

Maybe they did that so we didn't all have babies.

And we would.

[bing181 9,425]

Maybe they did that so we didn't all have babies.

Maybe it also says something about how far down the pecking order the rookies are.

[Six6Six 1,507]

Here are a few more photos from yesterday. Posting them so I can check if a link to Photobucket works. Cheers!

http://s1340.beta.photobucket.com/user/lynjan/library/LYJA%20-%20MFC%20Training%2028-01-2013

[Flemo56 409]

wd 6 it works the link. Helpin hand from craigy on jones, yeah rite, he wants his spot.......lol.........competition for spots even by the coaches......great to see

[Six6Six 1,507]

wd 6 it works the link. Helpin hand from craigy on jones, yeah rite, he wants his spot.......lol.........competition for spots even by the coaches......great to see

Have a look at the second photo. Rodan watching Viney like a hawk. He was on his hammer at times during the match sim, The mentor keeping the pressure on the student.

[Whispering_Jack 31,141]

In case this hasn't been posted - Gawn cut down

[Flemo56 409]

Yeah 6 I c it, a good mentor for young jv, it's hard to believe the change to professionalism that the fd seems to have brought about so quickly, it would seem so from what I'm reading in the great training reports were get'n, it's very hard to not get excited about the upcoming season, I'm really biting my lip with other afl supporters regarding what we'll do, like all us diehards iv'e been bit to many times by Demons of the past...........Bring it on i say sooner rather than later. Keep up the good work 6 we all appreciate it from interstate.

[beelzebub 23,390]

Training wed ?

[1964nowMORE 492]

Just wanted to add thanks to all those providing reports and pics.

As others have stated Pics show a group with larger numbers having muscle definition than I can remember seeing previously. No stick insects. Even Watts appears to have more muscle.

Interested in all thoughts on the tackling. and observation from the pics is difficult but can the hip tackle become a trip if the tackled player goes down, Will the tackle be seen as a takeout tackle by the AFL if we become adept at it. The pics certainly seemed to indicate that the margin for error could be small. Have the AFL umpires we have had at training sactioned our technique?

I noticed before the drill started Brian Royal talking to the AFL umpire (who I recognized but know idea his name) and demonstrating what they were trying to achieve in hitting the tackle between the knee and hip. The umpire pointed out clearly a few times that it mustn't be below the knee. Hence it's about technique now. It was very effective to watch, while not taking out arms it took the player off their line, off balance at which point they put arms out to stop hitting the turf....tough to give a nice handball when trying to avoid impact. The tackling in the match stuff was impressive I thought, given we used to look like witches hats in a game it's a massive improvement!

[binman 44,533]

Went to training on Monday. Only the third training session i've been to - ever. The last was an intra club game two years ago and the one before that was when Barass was coaching and training was at the 'G. Scored a training sherrin that day and watched Barass kick torps, apparently preaching their effectiveness to seemingly disbelieving players.

Lots to watch and see and it made me more appreciative of the regular DL training reports in terms of how comprehensive and well done they are. So i won't try to emulate them. Instead i'll give some random observations

I arrived during the scratch match and stood behind Neeld and the coaching panel. Fascinating to listen to their observations and in particular Neeld's instructions to the runners, which was mainly feedback to be given to individual players. On a couple of occasions a runner was sent out to Watts to praise him for second efforts and his contesting work,. On one occasion he was matched up against Dawes in a marking contest, was caught behind but held his ground and made the spoil. The ball hit the deck and Watts dived after it and was smashed by a few players diving in after it. Neeld also made a point of sending out a runner to Jetta after he got the ball on the wing and made an excellent decision on his next kick down the line.

Both Watts and Jetts looked terrific i thought - both in the scratch match and subsequent drills. Good attitudes and hard at it. Less impressive was Viney, at least in terms of his kicking (couldn't knock his endeavour though). He butchered a few kicks, but to be fair he wasn't alone. I thought that given it was perfect conditions the field kicking left a lot to be desired - particularly going forward.

Jones was terrific in the scratch match. In everything and hard to collar. At the end of training (during drills) almost demanded Misson run another rotaion, yelling 'one more'. Love it.

Other observations. I watched Toumpas, Fitzpatrick and someone else (one of the young new guys) kick the ball to each in triangle. Toumpas is a beautiful kick, a natural. Watts, Davey and Toumpas are miles ahead of everyone else. It made me wonder who the last pure kick was at the dees (prior to the current list). Steven Stretch, Andrew Obst and Robbbie Flower come to mind.

Sylvia seems to be enjoying training as is Frawley. Rodan is a real energy Great to watch him and Viney continuing to one on one stuff when almost every other player had left the ground.

Near the end of training one of the assistant coaches kicked the ball toward a group of players heading off. Mac Donald, rather than marking it smashed it away with his fist. Made me laugh as it seemed he is always in dee - fence mode. Super defender!

All in all a fascinating experience. The final thing i'll add is that overall the energy seemed super positive with lots of encouragement. I don't think it should be underestimated the importance of a cohesive, united playing and coaching group - something that one can only assume could not have entirely been the case last year with at least a handful of disgruntled players.

[Wilbur 447]

You should go more often binman great report

[mordja 187]

Thanks binman

[Vandenberger With The Lot 240]

Forgive the shaky camera. First time shooting on an SLR without a tripod.

[angrydee 842]

Enjoyed that. Thank you.

[Fitz Fitzpatrick 886]

Forgive the shaky camera. First time shooting on an SLR without a tripod.

great stuff! really appreciate that

[Hellish Inferno 992]

Cheers for taking the time and effort to make that! Although you'll probably be told to take it down as apparently the club doesn't like video being publicly available (even though it's an open training session I know)...

I know because I did the same thing last pre-season

Thanks for all the reports guys from London

[CBDees 3,167]

Forgive the shaky camera. First time shooting on an SLR without a tripod.

Great footage.

[barass 31 20]

Great footage.

Who is the player in No 1 dark gurnsey?

[Vandenberger With The Lot 240]

Enjoyed that. Thank you.

great stuff! really appreciate that

No worries guys, had a lot of fun taking it

Who is the player in No 1 dark gurnsey?

Pretty sure it's Hogan

[Longsufferingnomore 1,670]

Forgive the shaky camera. First time shooting on an SLR without a tripod.

Great to see that and put it together with the reports. Love TMc obviously very serious on Dawes. Liked Dawes work and Davis. Davis impressed last year at Scorps especially last couple of his games.