Lack of facilities - still?

[Sir Why You Little 34,637]

The club should be spending big on Footy Department needs right now.

We are in the cellar and must rise soon.

Cut back on office expenditure if we must.

Just get it right.

[John Crow Batty 8,266]

The club should be spending big on Footy Department needs right now.

We are in the cellar and must rise soon.

Cut back on office expenditure if we must.

Just get it right.

I'd like to know how many people are employed in the front office. It has been mentioned on this forum that there are around 40 people there now. If true I an not sure. If so then serious questions need to be asked.

[beelzebub 22,242]

So much huff and puff when so few actually know.

Id give ANYTHING Lloyd says a liberal dose of salts...A habitual maker-uperer !!

You can have all the toys in the world but if you aint got the cattle !!

[Sir Why You Little 34,637]

I'd like to know how many people are employed in the front office. It has been mentioned on this forum that there are around 40 people there now. If true I an not sure. If so then serious questions need to be asked.

agreed.

[Bossdog 2,002]

I'd like to know how many people are employed in the front office. It has been mentioned on this forum that there are around 40 people there now. If true I an not sure. If so then serious questions need to be asked.

How many people are employed in the front offices at Carlton, Hawthorn,Collingwood?????

Who the hell cares???......This is a multi million dollar business....It need people to run this business....From membership...sponsers....mail boys to send out the memberships on time....account payable and received

And we are whinging about costs????

Give me a break

[IRW 1,251]

Dont Rich spend time out at Craigeburn training?

We will have our own oval from the time Pies move into there new oval up the road.

I'll take a stab in the dark here and suggest that Richmond go to Craigeburn at least paartly because they are resurfacing their private oval next to their private gym .

Thats not to say that a second option for variety,whether it be Craigieburn or Casey isnt a good thing.

We certainly are getting the windsept oval next to Punt Road all for ourselves in due course.

I believe Collingwood cant wait to get off it into a private facility so they can behave like a genuinely elite outfit.

Having said that, its clear that with help from the AFL and generous supporters (some of who post here ) there is more money being spent,wisely its assumed, while there is probably a bottomless pit labeled footy dept expenditure

Edited September 23, 2012 by IRW

[Sir Why You Little 34,637]

How many people are employed in the front offices at Carlton, Hawthorn,Collingwood?????

Who the hell cares???......This is a multi million dollar business....It need people to run this business....From membership...sponsers....mail boys to send out the memberships on time....account payable and received

And we are whinging about costs????

Give me a break

costs that should include GPS Readings of every players output during all sessions.

No good being a multi million dollar organization if the team gets thumped every week.

[Bossdog 2,002]

costs that should include GPS Readings of every players output during all sessions.

No good being a multi million dollar organization if the team gets thumped every week.

Do you know that as a fact????

Or are you just believing what Lloyd said as being fact????

and you still need employees to run a club...Successful or not....Are you offering to lick all the letters and send out all the memberships in your spare time????

If you are, then we could be called unprofessional....

Edited September 23, 2012 by Bossdog

[Sir Why You Little 34,637]

Do you know that as a fact????

Or are you just believing what Lloyd said as being fact????

and you still need employees to run a club...Successful or not....Are you offering to lick all the letters and send out all the memberships in your spare time????

If you are, then we could be called unprofessional....

all i am saying is that the Football Department is the number one priority.

For too long we have had this club around the wrong way.

Who cares who licks the stamps or what type of swivel chair the front office has.

[Jack Jack 415]

It's easy to take pot shots at under performing teams, that seems to be Lloyd's style. But there is more to club's performance than how much money it can throw around. Sydney in particular can be highlighted for their positive club culture.

Last year the top five spenders in the football department were Collingwood, Essendon, West Coast, Carlton & Geelong. Of those teams 2 haven't even made the finals this year, only one into the preliminary final and none have managed to make the grand final.

[Sir Why You Little 34,637]

It's easy to take pot shots at under performing teams, that seems to be Lloyd's style. But there is more to club's performance than how much money it can throw around. Sydney in particular can be highlighted for their positive club culture.

Last year the top five spenders in the football department were Collingwood, Essendon, West Coast, Carlton & Geelong. Of those teams 2 haven't even made the finals this year, only one into the preliminary final and none have managed to make the grand final.

but they are all competitive within the competition. Year after Year....

Spend money wisely yes, get the right people & the culture should evolve.

But not spending Top Dollar in a football Department will only turn people away.

[jnrmac 19,115]

SO again MFC players are talking sh! t to people in and around the game?! Or as Lloyd said "every session" so I assume training not just game day.

Lloyd is changing his name to Mifsud....

"er, conversation didn't happen your honour...".

[monoccular 16,228]

I laughed, and lost all interest in the article when the diving [censored] mentioned 'scrutiny on injury rates', listed I think 5 clubs but not the Bummers. Yeah, he sure looks at things from an objective non-partisan viewpoint. Just another opportunity to sink the boots in.

Edited September 23, 2012 by monoccular

[Carrot Top 947]

A recruiter's job is becoming far more challenging; trying to predict the type of player that will be best suited to the continual changes to the game. Ruckmen must now be able to go forward, midfielders need to be able to rest forward and kick goals, and defenders must all be able to dispose of the ball at a high standard and make good decisions under extreme pressure.

Because last century none of these things were important. Many a club would recoil in horror at drafting a goal kicking mid or ruckman, while good disposal as a backman was surefire one way ticket to the country leagues.

I think we should make Lloyd our Prez and CEO so that we can benefit from his truly visionary thinking.

[Sir Why You Little 34,637]

Because last century none of these things were important. Many a club would recoil in horror at drafting a goal kicking mid or ruckman, while good disposal as a backman was surefire one way ticket to the country leagues.

I think we should make Lloyd our Prez and CEO so that we can benefit from his truly visionary thinking.

footy Classified will take a dive now that the velvet sledgehammer is employed.

His head irritates me no end!

[monoccular 16,228]

Because last century none of these things were important. Many a club would recoil in horror at drafting a goal kicking mid or ruckman, while good disposal as a backman was surefire one way ticket to the country leagues.

I think we should make Lloyd our Prez and CEO so that we can benefit from his truly visionary thinking.

LOL

[FarNorthernD 5,848]

Doesn't make sense to me. All players wear the GPS trackers during matches so why can't they use the same ones during training?

As someone else mentioned there are no running costs as such

What am I missing here?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Never suggested that I know more about AFL but I'm sick of being whacked pillar to post for what is wrong with our club. We have excellent resources and yes I am 100% sure we own the GPS' to put them on our players for each and every session, whether we choose to or not I do not know, but that isn't about availability of resources but simply what would be a choice for the coach.

If the article read Neeld is behind the big clubs because they use GPS' every training than I would be none the wiser to say whether we were or were not in other teams ballpark but to say we don't have the resources is incorrect. If you've been to training or the games you can see players wearing them and they are prevalent.

Well done. Great now you are back to the 100% issue. And re read the article as what the article said is not what you are trying to infer. Like I said I would take more heed of Mathew Lloyd than a faceless big shot who adds nothing.

Lloyd has a reputation for talking shiite in a desperate attempt to become relevant, he also has history with taking pot shots at Melbourne. Only a foolish person with disregard everything he says but only the naive would blindly accept his word as gospel

Reputation from whom? Dland?? And I cant think of a an AFL journalist that has not been rightly critical of apsects of MFC's operations. And Lloyds article is not inconsistent with other evidence out there in regard the resourcing of MFC.

That's exactly right Jarka and you've made my point in a far more efficient way.

He picks two of the poorer clubs who are both at the bottom of the ladder and blames it on our lack of resources. He probably interviewed Adem Yze and asked him how often we used GPS systems.

Who will hold Lloyd accountable for naming his sources that gave him this info? No one. Gone are the days were you could expect an article as fact, there is more accountability of 'Land; at least we pry out sources when people talk rumours.

Its a pity that you align your argument with cheap shots at the journalist rather than really understand what he is saying. Your first sentence is another incorrect inference about the article. Go read it.

And its ironic you laud the accountability on D'land. You been rightly pinged for blowing hot air.

[Biffen 12,365]

Doesn't make sense to me. All players wear the GPS trackers during matches so why can't they use the same ones during training?

As someone else mentioned there are no running costs as such

What am I missing here?

I completely agree-they dont cost much.

Hope we have got enough Goanna Oil and Elastoplast to get through next year.I'm starting to worry.

[daisycutter 28,629]

Doesn't make sense to me. All players wear the GPS trackers during matches so why can't they use the same ones during training?

As someone else mentioned there are no running costs as such

What am I missing here?

it's not what you're missing, it's what Loydy is missing and I think we all know the answer to that.

[Dockett 32 1,213]

What Lloyd says here is a bit of a worry:

The off-field battle rages

Well thank goodness for that. Now we know why we finished 3rd last.

[1858 219]

Ok so from his chat with some of our players about limitations of resources we've been wacked with the povo stick. Whether it is justified I don't know but I would have thought there would be a few more clubs in this ballpark. We've closed the gap on the Saints of late regarding operations revenue & membership haven't we? I know the big clubs are getting bigger but I didn't think we were isolated down the bottom like 3 or 4 years ago. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Wells 11 4,829]

Ok so from his chat with some of our players about limitations of resources we've been wacked with the povo stick. Whether it is justified I don't know but I would have thought there would be a few more clubs in this ballpark. We've closed the gap on the Saints of late regarding operations revenue & membership haven't we? I know the big clubs are getting bigger but I didn't think we were isolated down the bottom like 3 or 4 years ago. Maybe I'm wrong.

You're saying we're not in the bottom 3 we're in the bottom 6?... Im relieved lol.

Point being that unless we spend big time on the football department and do it NOW we can forget about on field success...if no success we can forget about memberships...and in turn forget about big sponsorships. We've put all those new coaches in place now, I just hope its being backed up with the technology. Id hate to read in a few years time how we wasted another batch of prime picks by being ill prepared to train them well.

[daisycutter 28,629]

It's not a lack of facilities, more a lack of faculties that is the problem.

[1858 219]

You're saying we're not in the bottom 3 we're in the bottom 6?... Im relieved lol.

Point being that unless we spend big time on the football department and do it NOW we can forget about on field success...if no success we can forget about memberships...and in turn forget about big sponsorships. We've put all those new coaches in place now, I just hope its being backed up with the technology. Id hate to read in a few years time how we wasted another batch of prime picks by being ill prepared to train them well.

I'm saying we've closed the gap on those clubs we could reasonably be expected to catch. What more do you expect in such a short time ffs.