WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - JESSE HOGAN

[Daz's Dee's 113]

I know it's from Jay Clark, the guy who said Monfries to Dees on 4 year deal, but...

@ClarkyHeraldSun: Dees want Dom Barry, slick left-footed wingman, as part of Hogan trade. Had an outstanding draft combine. Averaged 18 poss for NT.

@ClarkyHeraldSun: Barry sweetens the deal for Dees. Run and carry specialist finished 3rd in 3km time trail, 9th in beep, and nailed 3rd best kicking score.

How can GWS trade Dom Barry?

[Matt Demon 1,465]

I know it's from Jay Clark, the guy who said Monfries to Dees on 4 year deal, but...

@ClarkyHeraldSun: Dees want Dom Barry, slick left-footed wingman, as part of Hogan trade. Had an outstanding draft combine. Averaged 18 poss for NT.

@ClarkyHeraldSun: Barry sweetens the deal for Dees. Run and carry specialist finished 3rd in 3km time trail, 9th in beep, and nailed 3rd best kicking score.

Dominic Barry

“Medium midfielder with accurate left foot and excellent natural pace and endurance. His run and carry and evasiveness were features of his performances for the NT, averaging 18.4 disposals across the at NAB AFL Under-18 Championships.”

[dtrinh 71]

Yeah dawes for pick 13 is way too much.. even at best he'd be a second round pick. Average player that had a couple of ok seasons when collingwood were the premiers... wouldn't be too happy if this happened. I rekon we'd have a better chance trading a couple of players for him or trading a player and a second/third round pick for him and a lower pick

[jayceebee31 761]

Thats nice Billy,,, but just in case we miss a crack in the 'mini',

Pick 3 for Toumpas

Pick 4 Wines

Pick 13 best available draftee with pace

Pick 20 Pederson/Stevens

Pick 26 Viney

Pick ? Colcohoun/Hrovat?

Farren Ray for one of our comp picks, or a player trade.

can we get another free agent, maybe a russell?

Seemed to be close to the mark IMO.

[ox_5 163]

How can GWS trade Dom Barry?

@ClarkyHeraldSun: Finally, Barry is a young indigenous player who would add polish and run breaking lines from half back. Gws can trade as part of NT zone.

[pantaloons 2,019]

I know it's from Jay Clark, the guy who said Monfries to Dees on 4 year deal, but...

@ClarkyHeraldSun: Dees want Dom Barry, slick left-footed wingman, as part of Hogan trade. Had an outstanding draft combine. Averaged 18 poss for NT.

@ClarkyHeraldSun: Barry sweetens the deal for Dees. Run and carry specialist finished 3rd in 3km time trail, 9th in beep, and nailed 3rd best kicking score.

Can someone with a degree in rocket science please explain how this works?

[pantaloons 2,019]

Gws can trade as part of NT zone.

Oh I see. So GWS have access to him but no one else does unless they enter into a trade with the Giants? I look forward to seeing how this pans out.

[Axis of Bob 11,836]

GWS can take players from NT as part of their zone. What they can do is pre-list those players and then, if they want, trade them. Or they can just list them and not trade them.

Melbourne have obviously said "We like a player in your zone and we'd like you to pre-list him and trade him to us as part of the Hogan deal".

Make sense?

[pantaloons 2,019]

Make sense?

That's great - thanks. I wonder if the deal would be 3 + 13 for Hogan + 20 + Barry or if 20 comes off the table.

[Daz's Dee's 113]

That's great - thanks. I wonder if the deal would be 3 + 13 for Hogan + 20 + Barry or if 20 comes off the table.

I have no idea and only guessing but I would say pick 3 for hogan and player?

Does anyone know anything about Barry where would he fit in if he was in the draft in terms of number / rating??

[olisik 4,060]

Hmm if we can turn one pick into 2 players it would be a great outcome.

Barry sounds like he could be a good get.

[King Kunta 97]

The mocks on bigfooty (not that they're perfect) had him around a bouts the 4th round so he offers very little trade value

[rpfc 28,482]

More than happy to overpay for Hogan.

3 and 13 for Hogan, 20, and an NT kid sounds pretty good to me.

Well done to the Dees for getting the best possible outcome.

No matter how they got the outcome.

[rpfc 28,482]

The mocks on bigfooty (not that they're perfect) had him around a bouts the 4th round so he offers very little trade value

Unless we rate him higher and don't want to use a pick on him...

[DeeM 42]

why not just pick 3? GWS arne't going to get much better offers than that.

Best they can do is probably the dogs, with pick 5 and a player, but GWS wouldn't be interested, and dogs would be paying overs

[dazzledavey36 54,951]

Dom Barry sounds like a stephen hill type! if thats the case get him sounds exciting.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I have no idea and only guessing but I would say pick 3 for hogan and player?

Does anyone know anything about Barry where would he fit in if he was in the draft in terms of number / rating??

Yep, 2 top 15 picks is too much for one 17 Yr old kid..

It's just too much risk. And if it fails we get well & truly burned.

Pick 3,,, + a player or a pick around 30ish.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Yep. GWS badly want Whitfield, Toumpas, and Grundy. They can have maximum of pick 3 for Hogan. No more. Otherwise, we'd happily take Toumpas or Grundy with pick 3. They can only trade Hogan, they can't draft him next year (I believe), so pick 3 is the best they'll get. Simple really, or it should be.........

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

What ever gets hogan is good by me. We have viney so we are halfway to my dream draft

[Dr. Gonzo 24,225]

There's no such thing as a free lunch I guess. We had a win today with Viney slipping to 26 - the cost is that we may have to pay overs for MD2. All good.

Don't see how we could get Barry though - the reports on the Saints-GWS trade today indicate they have utilised all their zone recruits now.

[dee-luded 2,959]

why not just pick 3? GWS arne't going to get much better offers than that.

Best they can do is probably the dogs, with pick 5 and a player, but GWS wouldn't be interested, and dogs would be paying overs

Honestly, I'd be more than happy with Grundy or Toumpas + Wines or other.

We don't have to have Hogan, unless its a 'Gentlemans agreement'.

[olisik 4,060]

Bulldogs could trump our pick 3 with pick 5 + pick 21 (From Hawks)

That said I damn hope we have interviewed this Barry kid from NT for piece of mind that he isn't going to want to go running home to NT several times a year.

[beelzebub 23,379]

Pick 5 doesn't beat 3, doesn't matter what you add, the true value is the first given pick.

[Deecisive 1,709]

I would not mind Hogan, Wines, Viney, all Melbourne supporters in the team that would probably introduce a lot more passion and leadership into the team. As for GWS if they weren't interested in Barry its of no concern to them to chuck him in as a sweetner as long as they get 3rd pick its not as if its costing them anything to do so.

I must say I do like the way this draft is going so far for the Dees.... keep it going boys.... thought of possibly adding Ray, Pederson and Dawes if he can be bought across for a reasonable price to the time is exciting... This will be a very different team next year and the year after. So how many days to footy season?

[Arrow 1,257]

http://www.thisisafl.com/forums/f33/2012-nab-afl-under-18s-fixture-12390/index2.html

If you want to know about Mr. Barry's skills go and have a look at post number 25 on this forum and the little emotion this poster uses to describe it.

I'm getting aroused already.