Get the Turtle

[Redleg 40,453]

If Carlton are prepared to let him go for nearly nothing, to make salary cap room for their asault on Cloke or other players, I would look at him. He is their best player over the last month.

[old dee 23,564]

If Carlton are prepared to let him go for nearly nothing, to make salary cap room for their asault on Cloke or other players, I would look at him. He is their best player over the last month.

Redleg do you know if he is a free agent?

He must be close

[rpfc 28,087]

Redleg do you know if he is a free agent?

He must be close

FA are for those at their clubs (not AFL in general) for 8 years (RFA) or 10 years (UFA), or are delisted by the first list lodgement.

So he may be a UFA but not for longevity - but because he is not very good.

[beelzebub 23,254]

Redleg do you know if he is a free agent?

He must be close

He is not on the AFL FA list

[Ouch! 2,250]

Yeah thats not the point in my eyes, the guy walked out. If Tom Scully started playing good footy in his last year of his contract would you want him back?

Am not prepared to comment too much into the discussion of whether we should or not, but I seem to recall there was a bit more to it than just him walking out. My understanding is more than he saw that with 1& 2 in the draft and the likely outcome to be Scully and Trengove, and the types of players we already had (Moloney, Jones, etc) I can't recall if Junior and Bruce were still with us either.... But essentially that his opportunities would be limited at the club, and he requested the trade based on those grounds. Carlton obviously had romantic appeal, but they also were in need of an inside mid to feed Judd, Murphy etc...

Only a month or so earlier I think we had our first Debt Demolition function, and Brock donated over $10,000 of his own money to the club. Which I think was the highest contribution of ANY player on our list and he would by no means have been paid a huge amount back then either....

'Melbourne president Jim Stynes has described midfielder Brock McLean's $10,000 donation to the Demons' Debt Demolition campaign as an 'amazing gesture of faith' for the club's future.

'

Perhaps worth bearing in mind before commenting that he deserted us... I think it was mutually beneficial for both parties at the time, and to be honest, I would think similarly again now, if we happened to look at him again. It took him a long time to get his body right @ the blues, and his form since going into their side has been more solid than many of our players.

He's not an 'A' grader, but he is an upgrade dare I suggest on a player such as Moloney?

[Ouch! 2,250]

He is not on the AFL FA list

But I don't think he would cost a lot to secure either....

[Sir Why You Little 36,772]

Move on people. Trengove is slow enough. We don't need another.

[Wilbur 447]

NO he is to slow we have surplus of these types atm

Edited July 26, 2012 by Wilbur

[old dee 23,564]

FA are for those at their clubs (not AFL in general) for 8 years (RFA) or 10 years (UFA), or are delisted by the first list lodgement.

So he may be a UFA but not for longevity - but because he is not very good.

Thanks rpfc I missed the bit about at their current club.

[Guest lambtotheslaughter]

Move on people. Trengove is slow enough. We don't need another.

Surely the turtle will make the tortoise look fast

[Nasher 33,607]

If Carlton are prepared to let him go for nearly nothing, to make salary cap room for their asault on Cloke or other players, I would look at him. He is their best player over the last month.

Redleg, I reckon this is a mistake we make a lot; we get sucked in by a handful of good games and keep (or in this case, recruit) players based on too small a sample size. It's the reason Dunn has been on our list for two years too long; he had a purple patch back in 2010 and got two years. McLean might've been good for the last month, but he did stuff all for the three years before it, including his last season with us.

He's also demonstrated with his recent use of Twitter that he hasn't grown up a bit since his exit.

I couldn't be less interested I don't think.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Only thru the rookie draft.

[Sir Why You Little 36,772]

Surely the turtle will make the tortoise look fast

We let Brock go and Drafted Gysberts. Slow for slow...

We are just so cutting edge!!

[Cards13 9,117]

Casey is too far for him to travel isn't it??

Edited July 26, 2012 by Cards13

[deeflog 679]

A big NO for me

NEXT

[Jarka 767]

Am not prepared to comment too much into the discussion of whether we should or not, but I seem to recall there was a bit more to it than just him walking out. My understanding is more than he saw that with 1& 2 in the draft and the likely outcome to be Scully and Trengove, and the types of players we already had (Moloney, Jones, etc) I can't recall if Junior and Bruce were still with us either.... But essentially that his opportunities would be limited at the club, and he requested the trade based on those grounds. Carlton obviously had romantic appeal, but they also were in need of an inside mid to feed Judd, Murphy etc...

Only a month or so earlier I think we had our first Debt Demolition function, and Brock donated over $10,000 of his own money to the club. Which I think was the highest contribution of ANY player on our list and he would by no means have been paid a huge amount back then either....

'Melbourne president Jim Stynes has described midfielder Brock McLean's $10,000 donation to the Demons' Debt Demolition campaign as an 'amazing gesture of faith' for the club's future.

'

Perhaps worth bearing in mind before commenting that he deserted us... I think it was mutually beneficial for both parties at the time, and to be honest, I would think similarly again now, if we happened to look at him again. It took him a long time to get his body right @ the blues, and his form since going into their side has been more solid than many of our players.

He's not an 'A' grader, but he is an upgrade dare I suggest on a player such as Moloney?

Just to clarify something, that $10k donation was the result of an indiscretion of McLean's and it was the agreed punishment between he and the leadership group.

indiscretion.

I'd consider it if he was delisted and we picked him up very cheaply ie rookie pick. I wouldn't trade for thim though.

[Jonesbag 487]

Am not prepared to comment too much into the discussion of whether we should or not, but I seem to recall there was a bit more to it than just him walking out. My understanding is more than he saw that with 1& 2 in the draft and the likely outcome to be Scully and Trengove, and the types of players we already had (Moloney, Jones, etc) I can't recall if Junior and Bruce were still with us either.... But essentially that his opportunities would be limited at the club, and he requested the trade based on those grounds. Carlton obviously had romantic appeal, but they also were in need of an inside mid to feed Judd, Murphy etc...

Only a month or so earlier I think we had our first Debt Demolition function, and Brock donated over $10,000 of his own money to the club. Which I think was the highest contribution of ANY player on our list and he would by no means have been paid a huge amount back then either....

'Melbourne president Jim Stynes has described midfielder Brock McLean's $10,000 donation to the Demons' Debt Demolition campaign as an 'amazing gesture of faith' for the club's future.

'

Perhaps worth bearing in mind before commenting that he deserted us... I think it was mutually beneficial for both parties at the time, and to be honest, I would think similarly again now, if we happened to look at him again. It took him a long time to get his body right @ the blues, and his form since going into their side has been more solid than many of our players.

He's not an 'A' grader, but he is an upgrade dare I suggest on a player such as Moloney?

Probably a pretty fair arguement about the contribution so I will keep that in mind from now on. Although if we keep Moloney (contract update anyone?) and Jones and so on, with gys and Viney and whoever we recruit via the draft would we really require brock? Perhaps if Moloney moves on we could look at him... I would prefer not too

[Harcourt 146]

If Moloney leaves at the end of this year and Brock was going cheap (ie reasonable salary and very late draft pick or free) it wouldn't be the worst idea I've ever heard.

Edited July 26, 2012 by Harcourt

[Ouch! 2,250]

Just to clarify something, that $10k donation was the result of an indiscretion of McLean's and it was the agreed punishment between he and the leadership group.

indiscretion.

I'd consider it if he was delisted and we picked him up very cheaply ie rookie pick. I wouldn't trade for thim though.

That wasn't when he did donuts on the Casey car park in his ute was it?

BTW I am not doubting you, but it seems a little odd to 'punish' him like this and then for the president of the club to come out and laud the effort of the player on the donation so publicly, the media made a fair bit of noise about it at the time I thought?

Was Stynes unaware of the reason for the donation?

Edited July 26, 2012 by Oucher

[Axis of Bob 11,370]

Our biggest problem as a team is our poor spread. Brock is a good player at his role, but he isn't a spreader. He's a plodder who wins the ball well, but he's not someone who is going to burst hard from a pack to move the footy (or defend it when the opposition get it).

We have enough one paced players and he doesn't solve any of our problems.

[Biffen 12,939]

No point in looking back.

We are slow enough in the mids ATM.

Lets look forward eh ?

[Redleg 40,453]

Redleg, I reckon this is a mistake we make a lot; we get sucked in by a handful of good games and keep (or in this case, recruit) players based on too small a sample size. It's the reason Dunn has been on our list for two years too long; he had a purple patch back in 2010 and got two years. McLean might've been good for the last month, but he did stuff all for the three years before it, including his last season with us.

He's also demonstrated with his recent use of Twitter that he hasn't grown up a bit since his exit.

I couldn't be less interested I don't think.

He would probably go to GWS if he left anyway.

[monoccular 17,360]

Geez I thought you meant Wona. Hang on a minute.........

I thought exactly the same.....since when has Brock been known as turtle? I can see why though.

[Tatu 416]

Would be mad, not to look at him as a rookie...... Definitely wouldn't trade for him or give up large amounts of cash for him...... But as a rookie, on base payment, I wouldn't say no......

[IRW 1,385]

Geez I thought you meant Wona. Hang on a minute.........

for what its worth... this is a news FLASH received today......Wona is content and very happy to be home Edited July 26, 2012 by IRW