Geelong v Casey Scorpions

[olisik 4,060]

Season will be half over becore viney is back. Only a fool would use a pick 1 or 2 on him now.

[Guest José Mourinho]

At least they can both still run and lift weights for the majority of the time they are out.

[Guest José Mourinho]

The report on the AFL website described it as a "fair bump"...

http://www.afl.com.a...71/default.aspx

Case closed then...

[Pennant St Dee 12,811]

Watts 20 disposals, 4 goals. Looks like he took being dropped in the right way, too good to languish in VFL, should be back in the seniors.

Next week:

IN: Watts & Jurrah (as sub)

OUT: Dunn & whoever doesn't play their role this week

I'd love to see Petterd, Blease and Bennel playing well back in the senior team, but want to see them playing consistently in the bests at Casey. All 3 have potential to be very good AFL players, but their deficiencies are holding them back. Let's hope these 3 develop and come on asap!

Another week (if Casey don't have a bye next week) wont do Watts any harm get some consistency into him and maybe just maybe make him realise after a few weeks out. When I get my chance again I am going to grab it. To early a call on Jurrah

[olisik 4,060]

He had the silk today, just not the aggresion i thiught, and isnt that the whole reason he is back in the VFL

[Lord Travis 10,539]

I'd rather give Watts another week or 2 at Casey.

He really needs to earn his promotion to the senior team, moreso than others, in my book.

Why does he need to earn it MORESO THAN OTHERS? The players should all be judged equally. What draft pick or how you came onto our list is irrelevant.

Watts cops so much stick from the media, opposition supporters, and even our own it seems. It's downright ridiculous. He had a poor game last week, other than that he has been one of our best thus far this year. While that isn't saying much, he sure as [censored] didn't deserve to be dropped ahead of others. Today he played on the wing and picked up 20 touches and 4 goals. That's a great return. He should be playing at Melbourne next week and the remainder of the year. No point him sitting in the VFL and performing well. We get nothing out of it. If he isn't back in the team next week, then we can write off Neeld and the new coaching panel as fools. They've done a great job so far

Again, well done to Casey on their good win today. Great turn around from that horrible day last year. Shame about some of those injuries!

Edited May 5, 2012 by Lord Travis

[Guest José Mourinho]

Interestingly, I thought that whether fair or not, the head was sacrosanct, and would be protected.

Head high contact, if reasonably avoided, results in suspensions.

It's that simple.

Or has the rule changed? Again?

[rpfc 28,084]

Jack's mum is going to kill Todd...

[RalphiusMaximus 6,013]

The report on the AFL website described it as a "fair bump"...

http://www.afl.com.a...71/default.aspx

According to the powers that be, if it results in forceful contact to the head it is not fair. That is the justification for Trengove being outed for three weeks. The same principal should apply here. According to the article, Viney had just taken possession of the ball, so he had the option to tackle and chose not to. Everything the AFL has said regarding high contact in the last few years says he has to be reported and suspended.

[Guest José Mourinho]

Why does he need to earn it MORESO THAN OTHERS? The players should all be judged equally. What draft pick or how you came onto our list is irrelevant.

Watts cops so much stick from the media, opposition supporters, and even our own it seems. It's downright ridiculous. He had a poor game last week, other than that he has been one of our best thus far this year. While that isn't saying much, he sure as [censored] didn't deserve to be dropped ahead of others. Today he played on the wing and picked up 20 touches and 4 goals. That's a great return. He should be playing at Melbourne next week and the remainder of the year. No point him sitting in the VFL and performing well. We get nothing out of it. If he isn't back in the team next week, then we can write off Neeld and the new coaching panel as fools.

Again, well done to Casey on their good win today. Great turn around from that horrible day last year. Shame about some of those injuries!

For his own bloody good.

Because he needs to learn to be harder at the contested footy for his own development, and we need to set the bar higher for Watts than for other players.

You're obviously happy with him continuing to just coast along at that level, when he could be so much more.

[GRUN DEE 69]

I would like to know what Jack Watts contested ball & tackle stats read?

[hardtack 10,435]

I'm going by the report on this thread that says Wojinski laid him out with a bump.

Fair enough... the following was tweeted by MelbourneFC:

"On the Jack Viney bump, it appeared Wojo collected him in shoulder/head region. Looked hard but fair at time."

[jimcor 212]

Why does he need to earn it MORESO THAN OTHERS? The players should all be judged equally. What draft pick or how you came onto our list is irrelevant.

Again, well done to Casey on their good win today. Great turn around from that horrible day last year. Shame about some of those injuries!

Sorry LT, I should have queried this as well. I agree that it's just wrong to impose different standards on players simply because of ones' own unrealistic expectations. As I've said on a few posts, I don't think we have a more talented (and I'm not even saying 'potentially talented') player than Jack Watts and his continued development is crucial for our future success. On the other hand, I think that in the absence of extreme circumstances, any dropped players have to earn their place back by demonstrating the required levels of consistency that the coaching group demands. Otherwise, it sts a poor example for the rest of the squad and at the end of the dat, the squad is everything.

[Hannibal 5,814]

I would like to know what Jack Watts contested ball & tackle stats read?

It's very disappointing that he was sent back to run around on the wing.

[Pates 9,626]

According to the powers that be, if it results in forceful contact to the head it is not fair. That is the justification for Trengove being outed for three weeks. The same principal should apply here. According to the article, Viney had just taken possession of the ball, so he had the option to tackle and chose not to. Everything the AFL has said regarding high contact in the last few years says he has to be reported and suspended.

Will be very interesting if there is some footage of the bump. I still can't fathom how that WC player got off from his hit on Sylvia in Pre-season last year.

[jumbo returns 6,713]

Gys can't take a trick, poor kid - but I know he'll be back.

He's a tough nut and has a real competitive spirit.

[rpfc 28,084]

It's very disappointing that he was sent back to run around on the wing.

The wing isn't what the wing used to be.

[jumbo returns 6,713]

It's very disappointing that he was sent back to run around on the wing.

Really? That's disappointing.

[Ned 156]

Jack's mum is going to kill Todd...

I've known Jack's mum since childhood. You're right, he's in for a world of pain.

[Hannibal 5,814]

The wing isn't what the wing used to be.

It is the way Jack plays it.

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

Jordan Gysberts and Jack Viney both gone to hospital with suspected broken jaws.

twitter on the MFC website said that Viney also suspected broken jaw as well.

On triple M just now:

Gysberts AND Viney both off to hospital now with suspected broken jaws.

According to MFC twitter, Viney and Gysberts both being sent to hospital for scans on suspected broken jaws.

Crap!!! Viney & the Gys broken jaws.

Did you guys hear that Viney and Gysberts both have suspected broken jaws?

[jumbo returns 6,713]

Liam Jurrah back?

I'm already having a good day!

Back for the Queen's birthday game?

Edited May 5, 2012 by jumbo returns

[Jaded No More 68,692]

FFS why is there always a dark shadow over anything remotely positive happening at this club?

There goes half a season of Gysberts developing. Fantastic.

[jumbo returns 6,713]

Did you guys hear that Viney and Gysberts both have suspected broken jaws?

Yep - horrible news.

[Striker475 696]

Just on Watts - I wouldn't be surprised to see him back, because IIRC Casey now have 2 weeks off?