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Viney should NOT be appointed Melbourne's permanent coach. That statement has nothing to do with his tactical skills, his determination, his Melbourne FC loyalty or his experience.

It would be inappropriate for him to be coach at the same time as his son joins the playing list. It would form a conflict of interest (and emotions) that neither father or son should be expected to have to cope with. That conflict will eventually become a media issue which will destabilise the club. Nothing surer.

It's an interesting dynamic and tend to sit on the fence on this. Only thought would be to not make any assumptions until you see how Viney junior goes about it. Kamikaze in every respect. No issue of him earning his spot in our best 22 when his time comes no matter who the coach is. The kid has red & blue in his veins and his old boy I believe is the right fit for what MFC need now as head-coach. Let us cross that bridge in 2 years. Larger fish to fry currently.

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I love the optimism, but I think we can forget about Clarkson. I wish everyone would stop putting him at the top of their lists.

Its just not going to happen. Why on earth would Hawthorn let him go?? Jeff Kennett has created a rod for his back by declaring his contract talks are on hold till season's end. I'm sure behind the scene's, Dunstall and Pickering are already ironing out the terms, but in an effort to save face (on Kennetts behalf), official re-signing will be on hold till after their last game.

So lets look at the best of the rest.

Ps: I really don't want Malthouse. I hate him. He belittles the Demons every chance he gets with his snide remarks about Queen's birthday being our Grand Final. Plus his comments about Maric were very poor. I don't want someone who wont LOVE the club

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1. Clarkson

2. Malthouse

3. Eade/Neeld/McCartney/Hinkley/Sanderson/Cameron

Rocket has coached for many years without winning a flag. I'm sorry but in the end I want ultimate success. We may well have to go down the route of inexperience.

Who was the last caretaker coach to stay with the organisation. Viney hasn't come out and said he doesn't want the job yet, but I get the feeling he would be happy to stay in the development role especially with his son coming to the club in 2013.

I believe the last caretaker coach that made it was Paul Roos.

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The whisper comes in from the trees...

It is a quiet sound, a forgotten one....

It is a sound that has been muted by the internet, by tales of arguments....

Yet the sound can be heard

And it rings true....

Laidley.....

Laidley.....

Dean Laidley...

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If you listen to the crap over on BF, apparently Neil Craig has been called today and Gavin Brown's odds have shortened dramatically. Furthermore, Robbo just tweeted that Mark Williams is interested. I heard somewhere recently that his family are not keen living in NSW and want to return to VIC. I can't blame them.

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If you listen to the crap over on BF, apparently Neil Craig has been called today and Gavin Brown's odds have shortened dramatically. Furthermore, Robbo just tweeted that Mark Williams is interested. I heard somewhere recently that his family are not keen living in NSW and want to return to VIC. I can't blame them.

I'd take Mark Williams every day of the week.


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I'd take Mark Williams every day of the week.

We need a coach that not only builds a team, but that can also build the club. Someone that is just as big or almost as big a figure as the club itself. I'd have to say only Malthouse, Mathews, Roos & maybe Clarkson are capable of creating a legacy at the MFC.

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I reckon we should move heaven and earth to get Choco Williams to lead this club. Number one on my hit list.

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He won a premiership, but he also disablised Port. Not confident on him.

I don't think we'd get Clarkson, but I still think we should throw everything at him now. He's hard and a modern footy thinker. With our list he'd take us to success.

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Matthew Primus is a bit more recent.

True...forgot about that one...

I'd love to have Paur Roos at the Dees to instill some of that bloods culture though.

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Does anyone here really think it can work at Collingwood having Malthouse looking over Buckley's shoulder? I know I don't. So, in my opinion we'd being doing Collingwood a favour if we engaged Malthouse. BUT, I don't think he's the right person for us. It took him a long, long time to get success at Collingwood with the best resources at his disposal. Don't forget, he was nearly dumped by Collingwood two (three?) years ago.

I'm not sure who I'd like to see as coach. I'd rather see a list of key selection criteria developed and then try to match he best person against that list. My list would have on it, in order (1) character/integrity, (2) tactical nous, (3) management skill, (4) educational skill, (5) drive, (6) successful career to date in whatever capacity this person has been involved in, (7) AFL success, meaning premiership, as coach, assistant coach or player, (8) senior coaching experience.

Certainly Malthouse has a number of these characteristics, but I have no idea, for example, whether he has tactical nous or whether Collingwood's gameplan and gameday management is primarily from one or more of the assistants.

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If We can't land a "big fish" which TBH looks like happening given Malthouse, Clarkson and roos are no chance IMHO

We need to look at the next rung of assistent coaches.

I think Gavin Brown is the best option on the lists being thrown around.

- Tough as guts player and one of Collingwoods greatest ever Captains also a premiership player

- Has coached in a successful Collingwood era so knows the latest tactics and what is required to win a premiership

- Has developed himself by going to Carlton and no doubt been instrumental in their imprvement this year.

He also has that tough reputation has mongrel about him and I believe because of his playing career would get instant respect from the players.

Something Sanderson, neld , watters with all due respect would not have.

PLayers respect coaches who were tough players

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Guys! We will go for an expereinced head coach.... don't even bother talking about assistants.

It will be on of these guys:

Malthouse

Clarkson

Eade

Choco Williams

Laidley

Viney (the only chance for a rookie coach)

Our next coach is there, begin appreciating one of them.

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Guys! We will go for an expereinced head coach.... don't even bother talking about assistants.

It will be on of these guys:

Malthouse

Clarkson

Eade

Choco Williams

Laidley

Viney (the only chance for a rookie coach)

Our next coach is there, begin appreciating one of them.

Malthouse - not a chance

Clarkson - not a chance

Eade - very slim chance

Choco Williams - potentially

Laidley - I can see that

Viney - with his son there? Difficult!

You're not giving us many options in your summation. You have to throw Gavinn Brown in the mix because it would be Garry Lyon's #1 choice. So if he is as much of a powerbroker as people say, then Brown is a huge chance.


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They should throw everything at Malthouse, Clarkson and Roos. Unlikely to dislodge them where they sit currently, but that doesn't mean you don't try your ar$e off. (We did enough "not trying" on the weekend.)

After that, I like the look of Choco Williams, and Laidley. Williams is basically the senior coach for GWS at the moment, Sheedy is doing SFA there from all reports.

I guess then you lower your sighted (in terms of experience and price) and consider some of the senior assistants elsewhere, Hinkley, Neeld, Sanderson, Gavin Brown.... Viney is probably someone that you would consider in this group too...

Definately not keen on Eade. Can't put my foot on why, but I don't rate his sides as being hard, and uncompromising.

One other point here is that whilst we are talking the Senior appointment, I want to see the MFC work equally as hard in securing the best quality assistant coaches as well?, why wouldn't we try to snag a couple of those mentioned above as assistants if we can?. Bailey took the fall for the players AND the remaining coaching panel should be feeling very insecure in their roles.

Just for something different to the norm, I would actually be interested to see the MFC sound out Michael O'Loughlin be sounded out for a coaching role (not necessarily senior coach, maybe fwd coach) but I rated him as a player, and with us having a sizeable number of indigenous players on our list, it could be a shrewd move.

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One a little out of left field however someone who has developed and built a successful premiership side and is still current ......... Mark Thompson.

He would be a perfect fit for the Dees.

It would take an a lot of money and brilliant sales pitch however he shouldn't be overlooked or dismissed.

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More I think about it, more I want Laidley.

- He did good things with a poor Kangas list and setup (dug the Arden St ice bath himself IIRC)

- He was told by the club not to tank as the club literally could not afford the associated costs

- He still managed to build the basis of a list that is now one of the better young lists in the AFL with names like Ziebell, Bastinac and Swallow in addition to the old guard of Wells, Harvey etc.

- He only left when it was thought no more could be done (Scott's resurrection of the list has probably shown otherwise now)

- He still wants to coach (applied at Essendon last year)

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One a little out of left field however someone who has developed and built a successful premiership side and is still current ......... Mark Thompson.

He would be a perfect fit for the Dees.

It would take an a lot of money and brilliant sales pitch however he shouldn't be overlooked or dismissed.

Bomber ?

I think he's at Essendon for the long haul with an impressive packet.

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Viney has said that he doesn't want to be a head coach long term. Cross him off the list.

Not Eade for mine, but otherwise ....

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