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13 hours ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Hope they get found out and pay a big penalty...

AFL responds to bombshell reports of ‘auditing’ Cats over third-party payments

Always seemed to stink.

About time. Even if nothing is found, the AFL is saying we are watching. Might slow GFC down for a while as they are genuinely pulling the [censored]. Doubt anything will come from it but in my eyes there is no way they are not cheating.

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    Always had my suspicions around geelong. Never seemed to have salary cap issues , players seemed more than happy to play for alot less then they could of got elsewhere, it did not bother them chasing and getting players already in contract, Always first club to be linked to any potential trades, players that they have traded in have quickly nominated only them. Somehow manage to pay players less than the club they have left. 

    G Ablett 

    Dangerfield 

    Rivers

    Cameron 

    Z Touhy

    Smith

    Bews and p7 

    O Henry 

    T Bruhn

    T Stengle

    Linked to Rowell

    Alot of them would be on less at geelong then the club they got them from,  or are they ?

     

     

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    2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    If only Frank Costa was still with us….

    Frank may have passed on but I have little doubt that his legacy as regards the GFC is profound.

    BTW the Costa group was sold 18 months ago for $1.5 billion. I have lived on the Surfcoast for more than 40 years. 

    The rumours re third party player payments have been rife for years: farms in parent's names, cars and jobs for family members, and so on.

    Brian Cook was mentored by Frank. He's smart and diligent in his role as CEO, then and now. The best in the business. The AFL will find nothing. Everything is legit.

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    Truckloads of Kitty Litter heading down the Highway right now. 

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    The AFL won't find anything bar a few if's and maybe's. Geelong are way too smart and if remains way to easy for outside club interests to provide jobs, cars etc for family members of players. Every club would do it. You don't think the Hawks coterie has said get Allan at any cost?

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    Interesting comment at the end of that article of Caro's re the demons being concerned about WHO Oliver spoke to in those meetings last year. To me that means it was more than players and or coaches as that would be expected. So joining the dots here Im guessing he would have had a deal put to him at way less than the dees were paying and  that whoever else was that there might have made it clear where his extra money was coming from. 

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    4 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

    And how did we fit both him and former No.1 pick Josh Schache on the list last year?

    Not to mention’WHY’

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    The thing about the Oliver trade scenario that raises an eyebrow for me is that teams also have a salary floor. You can't afford to not pay the cap.

    So having a $1m+ deal falling flat puts you in a bit of a precarious situation.

    The Bowes deal was also very weird. I remember the claim basically being that they spread his two year deal over four years. So this guy effectively agreed to work two years for free? And no other club could present a better deal than that?

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    My dad always said 'Son, dont ever trust a dodgy puddy"

    Edited by picket fence

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    look, there is a certain appeal in living on the south coast there and being 20-30 minutes away from work/training etc. if i was on 600k that might be worth taking 10% off my contract for. but yes, its clearly stunk to high heaven for years

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    This is how strange the salary cap rules on sponsorships etc. can be. No wonder they're almost unenforceable

    From an article in today's Age on Petracca's change of management.

    He appears on YoPRO packaging in his Melbourne jumper and kicking a Sherrin football, so those payments must be lodged under additional services agreements (ASAs), which enable players to earn extra income beyond their base salary for promotional and marketing activities.

    Each club has a cap on the total amount it can spend on these agreements.

    However, Petracca also appears in a YoPRO Instagram video in normal clothes without any AFL “intellectual property”, such as a jumper or logo. In that case, the 29-year-old can accept money outside ASAs.

    https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/petracca-s-power-move-demon-splits-from-star-studded-connors-sports-stable-20250310-p5lieu.html

    Begs the question if Trac did his cooking show in an MFC polo would the revenue come within the salary cap.

    Where do you draw the line between genuinely leveraging your image as a footballer vs routing the salary cap.

    For those who are interested in these things the present investigation of Manchester City is a fascinating study.

     

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    There are two separate issues here:

    1. There are clear cost of living and lifestyle benefits to living in Geelong and surrounds compared with living in inner Melbourne. I'm guessing the equivalent house in Geelong costs 20 - 25% less, and comes with the benefits of shorter commutes, less traffic and closer proximity to amenities. So, yes, it is very easy to attract players to the club, particularly those who have grown up in rural environments, when they know their money will go much further.

    2. Where there is smoke, there is generally fire and there has been plenty of rumours of dodgy land deals and sponsorships at Geelong in recent decades. The Chris Scott sponsorship is just the latest example. Hopefully the AFL will be able to definitively determine whether something is going on here.

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    9 hours ago, zoe1617 said:

    Never seemed to have salary cap issues , players seemed more than happy to play for alot less then they could of got elsewhere, it did not bother them chasing and getting players already in contract,

    Carlton were another of those clubs… the Judd recruitment being a perfect example.

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    9 minutes ago, hardtack said:

    Carlton were another of those clubs… the Judd recruitment being a perfect example.

    Judd as a Visy Executive. 🤦

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    To make it all even, whatever a player earns needs to be included 100% in a teams cap.

    If that means no 3rd party deals then so be it. We’re doing something similar with Trac’s YoPro deal. Just late to the party is all.

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    57 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Begs the question if Trac did his cooking show in an MFC polo would the revenue come within the salary cap.

    Where do you draw the line between genuinely leveraging your image as a footballer vs routing the salary cap.

    For those who are interested in these things the present investigation of Manchester City is a fascinating study.

    it would go down as part of the asa, which sits outside the cap, but is a 'marketing allowance' as part of it

    trac's revenue from his cooking stuff would dwarf the entire asa i suspect

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    3 hours ago, Wells 11 said:

    Interesting comment at the end of that article of Caro's re the demons being concerned about WHO Oliver spoke to in those meetings last year. To me that means it was more than players and or coaches as that would be expected. So joining the dots here Im guessing he would have had a deal put to him at way less than the dees were paying and  that whoever else was that there might have made it clear where his extra money was coming from. 

    Deep Throat?

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    do you really think anything will come out of this? its geelong at the end of the day, also interesting port adl has been thrown into this f them they deserve it aswell

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    Actually I have a dodgy cat.  The vets eyes were still watering 2 hours after the event.  Now on a restricted diet, like Geelong should be.

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    do you really think anything will come out of this? its geelong at the end of the day, also interesting port adl has been thrown into this f them they deserve it aswell

    no

    the afl never does an investigation that they don't already know the answer to

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