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PREGAME: Rd 11 vs St. Kilda

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Billings being axed is a great day for football. I'm going to the footy now.

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    2 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

    Billings being axed is a great day for football. I'm going to the footy now.

    Come on mate, you’re better than that. 

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    Hunter sub and Woey Jnr to start on would be my guess.

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    Didn't see the Howes move happening, and thought Billings was 50/50 but figured he was safe as Hunter has not been setting the world on fire at Casey. Three omissions is a fair few, and definitely more than normal, as much as the loss to WCE was disappointing. Will be interesting to see how the changes play out. Bummed for Taj, he has been good. 

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    4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Hunter sub and Woey Jnr to start on would be my guess.

    I hope so! I'd be OK with this. I thought Billings has been alright (one of the only ones to lower the eyes and occasionally showed his class - but some very sloppy disposals at times, although not alone here and poor goalkicking), but maybe a stint in the 2s to find a little confidence and some form in front of goals wouldn't hurt. 

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    Surprised Hunter is in based on the feedback from those who watched the last Casey game. I like Howes and I think he’ll be back soon enough but he wasn’t in form so it isn’t wholly a surprise  

    Really want to see Woewodin get a full game but I’m expecting he’ll be sub again.

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    I like the changes, team balance looks much better. Hope Woey starts and hunter is sub, Woey deserves the chance to lockdown a spot.

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    The Howes blunder with Reid (whilst understandable given Reid's talent) was extremely poor defending. There would have been a few other contests that I can't recall but where the selection committee decided he needs a freshening up

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    5 hours ago, binman said:

    Last night's game was yet another example of what i'm talking about above.

    The dogs had a whopping 16 center clearances last night, twice as many as the Swans who could only manage 8. 

    The Swans were plus 3 for around the ground stoppages, meaning the dogs were +5 for total clearances 

    Six years ago if a team had 16 center clearances and their opponent only 8, that would be the ball game.

    But as is often the case now, the dogs center square domination was not a decisive factor in the game.  

    They scored 6.6.42 from stoppages (in total, ie centre and around the ground combined) to the swans' 5.2.32.

    Like so many games now, the decisive factor was scores from turnover, with the dogs scoring 6.10.46 from turnovers and the Swans 11.2.68.

    On turnovers, there is no doubt the dogs inaccuracy hurt them, they had 16 to 13 turnover scores after all.

    But an interesting factor to consider, particularly as it relates to the discussion about us changing our game plan, is that the dogs dominated inside 50s, particularly in the last quarter, winning inside 50s 60-48.

    I think there is enough evidence now to suggest the time in forward half model, high inside 50 numbers with lots of reentries into a crowded forward line (ie our 2021-23  game plan) contributes to inaccuracy. 

    The other interesting stat from last nights game, also relevant to the midfield discussion (given the key role mids play in terms of winning contested possessions), is the dogs smashed the swans for contested possessions 138 to 105.  

    I presume expected score was in the Dogs favour?

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    18 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Hunter sub and Woey Jnr to start on would be my guess.

    But I bet they’ll go the other way. Woey deserves his spot in the team now.
     

    Find myself trusting him more with ball in hand than some other players I should be trusting. Good to see some poise.

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    6 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    The Howes blunder with Reid (whilst understandable given Reid's talent) was extremely poor defending. There would have been a few other contests that I can't recall but where the selection committee decided he needs a freshening up

    Getting beaten in a one on one is forgiveable. 

    Giving up on the chase is not. 

    Message sent.

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    Brutal call to drop Billings for the game against the Saints. Imagine he would be devastated not to play against his old side.

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    23 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    I presume expected score was in the Dogs favour?

    I don't know, but I assume so.

    The dogs really should have won, swans had stopped to a walk. Though to be fair the dogs had injuries.

    That last quarter looked like a dees game with all the misses.

    That 50 was a shocker.

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    On 23/05/2024 at 16:14, Sir Why You Little said:

    Petty is not going to the Backline

    TMac is not going forward 

    From the Coaches Mouth 

    Stability is the key, we don't need panic merchants. We need balls of steel from top to bottom to guide us to where we need to be.

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    Like the changes, Taj will get his chance he is ready to go.!!

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    39 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    Brutal call to drop Billings for the game against the Saints. Imagine he would be devastated not to play against his old side.

    On the contrary, he'll be relieved I think 

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    Most of the changes look spot on to me. Not Hunter though. I have watched a few Casey games and don't see how they have picked him on that form. AMW is possible, but he looks more like a good VFL player in form, rather than an AFL ready player but that can be hard to read at times. 

    I really hope Woewodin gets a full game. Looks steady and able to cope with speed and pressure at AFL level. If we have to play Hunter, let him be the sub. 

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    Probably the right changes tbh. Interested to see whether Petty or JVR does theback up ruck duties 

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    Haven't watched all of Casey's games but Hunter's second half against Port was outstanding and he was very good against Carlton.  Ahead of Woewodin for me.

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    2 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

    Most of the changes look spot on to me. Not Hunter though. I have watched a few Casey games and don't see how they have picked him on that form. AMW is possible, but he looks more like a good VFL player in form, rather than an AFL ready player but that can be hard to read at times. 

    I really hope Woewodin gets a full game. Looks steady and able to cope with speed and pressure at AFL level. If we have to play Hunter, let him be the sub. 

    I assume Woey will be playing Howes role or a HBF.

    Might find Hunter and Langdon start on the wings with Caleb as the sub? (He's faded out a little in recent weeks)

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    1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

    Billings being axed is a great day for football. I'm going to the footy now.

    Ha, ha! How do you really feel? 

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