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Genuinely shocked we even bothered; was never any chance of getting off.
We can argue until we're blue in the face, but the very simple checklist of feet leaving the ground, contact to the head and it being 'avoidable' meant that he was always going to get at leat a week.  I was just relieved that it was only the week after being rubbed out twice last year.
Times have changed.

 

I was never comfortable with us going to the tribunal for this, and TBH it's because of the Maynard case.  I absolutely 100% agree that this is different, but he made contact with the head in a brace, bump or whatever you want to call it. It just felt wrong to appeal it. Picket plays on the edge, it's what makes him a great player, and his closing speed will always cause some accidents to occur.

But, he was very lucky with his hit on Bailey Smith too.  If that hit happened today, that would be a 4-6 week at least.

With Kozzie we accept the good and the bad and we move on.

 

Personally I'm not fussed about the verdict, would've loved for it to get downgraded but I accept the way the tribunal saw this one. Last year I reckon it's a fine but more credence is being put on potential injury and duty of care off the back of Brayshaw.

Need big one's from Nibbler (who is in good form) and Chin. 

Was never going to get off, waste of time & 10k.

Kozzie needs to understand he can’t do this anymore, it’s the 3rd time in less than a year with similar actions 

He’s letting the team down 


This was always going to be the result. 

It’s not unreasonable. It‘s not a conspiracy theory. It’s not because he’s not a Carlton or Collingwood player. 

It’s what the MRO guidelines require and it’s part of the AFL’s increasing focus on concussion. 

We just need to move on, as a club (ie preparing for Thursday) and a supporter base. 

Quick decision and sounds like we got short shrift.

Seems like a clear-cut application of the new rule. Not sure what the point was tbh.

So Kossie is suspended. again. He needs to learn.

33 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Rivers tackles Butters at full pace. Butters falls and shoulder hits the ground first. Dangerous tackle. MRO. Rivers fined $3759

 

Greene sling tackles Andrew. Andrew falls and his head hits the ground. MRO. Nothing to see here. 🤢🤢🤢🤢

The MRO is a joke. He simply waits on the media hysteria to work out what incidents to cite. 

 

Does it really cost 10k challenging the MRO at the tribunal?
I thought the 10k is charged when clubs go to the appeals board challenging the tribunal’s decision.

Edited by Dee Zephyr

Collingwood's counsel even presented some coloured 'lanes' from behind the goals vision to show how Maynard ran in a straight line and Melbourne's midfielder had drifted significantly to the right.

 

So why didn’t MFC present Dr Harold Fusselmeier from the Berlin School of Clinical exercise physiology to testify that “player Soligo twists off his natural line and contorts to the left which confuses player Pickett who nature reacts to protect himself within the dotted purple lines”

back to the future GIF


Decision seems okay…..

Until a Carlton or Collingwood player or Hawkins get off for a similar offence… 

Bookmark it.. “you know it makes sense”

I accept Koz was always going to go for this.

I love him as a player, but he’s now missed 2 games against top 4 opponents this year because of suspension. It’s just hurting the team.

16 minutes ago, Billy said:

Was never going to get off, waste of time & 10k.

Kozzie needs to understand he can’t do this anymore, it’s the 3rd time in less than a year with similar actions 

He’s letting the team down 

Be serious, it’s nothing like the hits on Smith and Cripps.

Baker got a week for worse than Koz’s hit 7 days ago, this is the strictest application so far of a new interpretation they only brought in this year. Any previous year it’s a fine at worst. 


5 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Said it elsewhere - there should be some internal punishment too

 

I know for a fact that Goodwin was openly and vocally furious at Koz after the Carlton loss last year for his actions in that game.

I doubt he’s pleased.

11 minutes ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

Nonsense

Why?

He’s copped it from the tribunal 

30 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

This was always going to be the result. 

It’s not unreasonable. It‘s not a conspiracy theory. It’s not because he’s not a Carlton or Collingwood player. 

It’s what the MRO guidelines require and it’s part of the AFL’s increasing focus on concussion. 

We just need to move on, as a club (ie preparing for Thursday) and a supporter base. 

Wrong

1 minute ago, Billy said:

Why?

He’s copped it from the tribunal 

Yes. He made incidental contact with an opponent and got a week suspension. Why would the club need to put extra punishment on top of that? 

Should Rivers have got an additional punishment from the club on top of his fine for a dangerous tackle on Rozee?


Christiansen and Gleeson have zero credibility. 
If this is the new rule and everyone who hits someone high, no matter impact will go for a week, fine. That’s a lot of suspensions though! 

The fact this was presided over by the guys who firstly refused to even grade Maynard over rough conduct and then the other who let him off make the whole thing a farce. 

We get worse treatment at the MRO than most clubs. Fact. The number of reports to suspensions is ridiculous, we don’t go that often but when we do we always get worse treatment and our players almost never get off unless we appeal twice. 
 

I feel for Kozzie, the contrast in media coverage between an incident in the play involving him and a bloke who judo chopped someone in the solar plexus and another who kicked someone is galling. Let alone Maynard. 
I’m done with this farce, I’m watching the game and reading Demonland and that’s it. The AFL and it’s media is a corrupt joke.

 

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58 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Fact is the only potential to cause injury is the injury that did occur, in this case none.

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Adrian Anderson 🤡🤡aka crusty the clown 

Dennis Denuto

 
Just now, Brownie said:

Dennis Denuto

no need to insult dennis. at least he understood the vibe.

 

The matrix table which contains the grading of classifiable offences and in particular, the grading of the degree/level of “contact” (ie the force)  is open to so much wriggle room (aka for the “stars” of the game) and ambiguity because of one sentence buried in the tribunal guidelines under the definition of impact. That sentence is as follows:

“The MRO may however consider the potential to cause injury to upgrade impact from negligible to a higher level of impact.” 
Wait for the day that a fresh air swing or missed bump that May otherwise have collected an opponent on the head results in a Demons player being suspended. The inclusion of a clause granting the MRO with unfettered discretion to upgrade is an indictment on the tribunal system as a forum for fair and impartial adjudication of these matters. 


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