PREGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

[Roost it far 9,514]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Harrison Petty did not get a kick that I saw on Sat. HE IS MILES of it!

You don’t have to yell 

[Little Goffy 14,750]

Just watched the Sicily incident. That is their captain, eh?

That is bizaroo numpty level stuff. The squat pose - I don't think I've ever seen someone do that on a football field - to then come up with clear intent to upend his target, and then the obnoxious [censored] kick to someone as they are falling.

The idea that he shouldn't be suspended is just arrogance from Hawthorn. Maybe it is inspired by all the times Mitchell got away with kneeing people? Natural justice would be if Sicily had got his foot trapped under his falling victim and missed 8 weeks with a wrenched ankle.

I hope we break them so badly that they are having visible arguments on field about who was supposed to be covering who, and the whole club loses faith in the rebuild.

Petracca to kick 5.

[Go the Biff 3,457]

4 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

You don’t have to yell 

Have you not seen him post before ? That was mild by Fence standards

[Demonland 73,482]

Hawks officially appealing the Sicily suspension.

 

 

[Frustrated Demon 244]

19 hours ago, Demonland said:

Sicily is out suspended. Huge loss for the Hawks. 

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bloke.

[jnrmac 20,273]

Thy are appealing that? He upended MacGrath and kicked him.

Wow.

[dees4lyf 19]

Can not change that side. They looked balanced and confident.

We now have a luxury of making a player find form and fitness before they come back in. He will get his chance. 

[Jaded No More 68,975]

16 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Thy are appealing that? He upended MacGrath and kicked him.

Wow.

Yeah I’m really confused what their defense will be? 

Even tho no damage was caused, we know that potential to cause injury is a suspendable offense, and if flipping an opponent over and kicking them (when the ball isn’t even in play!) isn’t potentially risky, I’m Batman. 

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,288]

4 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

No change for me please.

Sparrow didn't fire but did anyone else shine enough at Casey to replace him?

He's a big body that is hard to match up on.

 

To my knowledge Sparrow had no midfield time (indicated by no CBAs). He played a high half forward pressure role and had the second highest pressure acts on ground for us with 24. I have a feeling he will be given high marks for playing the team role. 

[Pennant St Dee 13,389]

19 hours ago, red and blue forever said:

out Sparrow.

In Petty,

Tholstrup sub

 

 

FB	J.Lever	S.May	T. Rivers
HB	J.Mcvee	T.Macdonald	B.Howes
C	E.Langdon	C.Petrecca	C.Windsor
HF	H.Petty	J.Van Rooyen	K.Pickett
FF	B.Fritsch	B.Brown	K.Chandler
Fol	M.Gawn	J.Viney	C.Oliver
IC	J.Billings	A.Neal-Bullen	C.Salem	M.Hore	K.Tholstrup

 

So drop a mid for a key tall, we would be far to top heavy with those changes 

[Pennant St Dee 13,389]

Only changes for mine and they are pending medical/strength and conditioning staff are

Brown -6 day break and how he pulls up

Woey - do they want to get a full game into him

if ticked off no change 

Edited March 18, 2024 by Pennant St Dee

[sisso 2,588]

1 hour ago, 640MD said:

I am amazed.  BB kicked two goals, took a number of marks up the ground, will take the main defender next week, ran all over the place. Clearly fit enough. 
our man Petty first game back in a practice match, only on for 3 quarters and had little impact.   Not sure the FD will agree

 

i do agree JvR and either Petty Brown or TMac need to be settled as our talls 

 

it would be good if Smith came back as well as Oliver has, but that race has been run I think.

Petty/JVR/Fritsch/Pickett (changing with ANB in midfield)/McAdam/Chandler is probably our best forward 6 IMO

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,766]

I would wait until the Adelaide game to unleash Petty personally, but i can understand the rational behind Harry playing this week if no VFL game is scheduled.

BBB should not and will not play 2 games in 5 days, Port R4 Saturday night, then the Crows Thursday night R5.

Rest BBB for the Gather round game against the Crows and think about Fullerton coming in against the Crows to help out Max because he will be struggling to back up and perform at a high level after a 5 day break.

This might actually be in the brains trusts thinking leaving BBB out this week and playing him against Port.

Goody did say he was going to play Harry against the Hawks he may then rest him for the Port game and recall BBB.

This might have been a scenario they have been contemplating in their squad management planning during pre season.

Edited March 18, 2024 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

[Moonshadow 17,678]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Thy are appealing that? He upended MacGrath and kicked him.

Wow.

But the biomechanics expert will testify that he had no other options and kicking is a football act... 🤔

[In Harmes Way 7,840]

4 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

But the biomechanics expert will testify that he had no other options and kicking is a football act... 🤔

If they argue that kicking is a football act, then it should have been a 50m penalty at least given the ball wasn't in play.

[Ouch! 2,269]

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

Yeah I’m really confused what their defense will be? 

Even tho no damage was caused, we know that potential to cause injury is a suspendable offense, and if flipping an opponent over and kicking them (when the ball isn’t even in play!) isn’t potentially risky, I’m Batman. 

I suspect low impact instead of medium impact will be their argument here.  Low would get a fine.

[DeeSpencer 26,273]

3 hours ago, monoccular said:

We will have to agree to differ then. 
Petty cannot have gained one ounce of confidence and would be going into an important game (yes, they are all important) bewildered.  Let’s hope he has a good game next weekend at VFL (unless of course there is another bloody bye) and gets right to take to Adelaide which he can look around and see why he doesn’t want to live there. 

Round 1 of the vfl season proper on Sunday and with some luck we can play the sub and carry over emergency (likely Woey and Tholstrup) both at Casey.

Which means along with Laurie with K Brown and AMW/Sestan rotating they’ll have a good supply of mids so even up against a strong Box Hill team (they’re always strong) Petty will have a chance to get on the end of a few. 

[DubDee 26,304]

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

I don't.

Not only did he upend a guy, which we know can be dangerous, but when the guy hit the ground, he actually kicked him, not heavily, but nevertheless a kick. That is a big no no.

That is not getting off. 1 week is pretty good I would have thought.

PS: Just re watched it several times. It's not a tap, its a kick and he deserves 1 week for that at least.

but it’s the AFL system so applying logic doesn’t work. It’s a kick but it’s graded by severity. Anyone can argue the kick was not high impact, and they would win the argument 

[DubDee 26,304]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Thy are appealing that? He upended MacGrath and kicked him.

Wow.

the suspension is just for the kick i believe. The upending part must have been deemed legal? or just worthy of a free kick

id be surprised if they can’t overturn the decision and grade the kick low impact 

[binman 44,528]

4 hours ago, pingu said:

I was looking for the CBA stats. Which app did you get these on? I could not find anything on the AFL website.

For all thing post game the Stats File thread is the place to go. 

@Demon Dynasty does a weekly overview of the game just gone using his bespoke ratings system as foundation 9and 

@WheeloRatings provides a weekly wrap of the key stats for the game just gone, including CBAs

This is wheelo's stats from the doggies game:

 

[John Demonic 5,901]

Are we predominantly of the "No/Little changes" opinion because the Hawks are also a bottom 6 side like the dogs? 

Edited March 18, 2024 by John Demonic

[Diamond_Jim 12,687]

Petty didn't even play four quarters of the VFL Scratch match and was relatively statless against a team that went 0-18 last year.

Not sure he's quite ready

[old dee 24,000]

Leaving injuries aside when you win by 7 goals why change?

Well there may be a reason, yesterday was a very hot day and with one day less the Hawks who played in the cool we may need some fresh legs. Then we have two games in Adelaide, the second game is only a 5 day break.

[Diamond_Jim 12,687]

16 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Are we predominantly of the "No/Little changes" opinion because the Hawks are also a bottom 6 side like the dogs? 

Dogs are a 6-10 side. Hawks are a 10-14 side.

If we are any good needs to be a regulation win in what is looking like a pleasant day

[John Demonic 5,901]

11 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Dogs are a 6-10 side. Hawks are a 10-14 side.

If we are any good needs to be a regulation win in what is looking like a pleasant day

Personally I don't believe that. On the small sample size of the weekends form: Freo and GCS have probably gone past the Dogs and their lacklustre defence of our ball movement in the middle and forward line. Essendon and the Dogs are about the only teams that are 1 step up from the North/WCE/Hawk level. Bevo will be gone by years end.

Edited March 18, 2024 by John Demonic