Welcome to Demonland: Jack Billings

[Jjrogan 1,214]

Talented youngster. Poor man's Lachie hunter. Will help Casey's percentage. Upgrade on Harmes for about the same price if possible. Yeah, go on. 

[spirit of norm smith 12,986]

Last year. No 

Last week. No

Today. No

Tomorrow and every other day. No. 

[SthSea22 304]

I dare say we will make a last min play for him as we did with Hunter last season

Depth, why not?

[GCDee 3,012]

This one wouldn’t surprise me at all. We were into him in his draft year, we have the Richo connection. 
 

We need class and outside skills to compliment our midfield grunt, assuming it doesn’t cost to much in cap space or picks id be for it. 

[Stretch Johnson 2,585]

The Billings method probably will lead to less scoring opportunities in comparison to other methods.

Edited October 17, 2023 by Stretch Johnson

[Deespicable 2,548]

Unlike other posters, I actually think Billings would be a good get, provided his manager is realistic with his asking pric e and St Kilda don't want anything more than a future third rounder or this year's pick 42.

Being a left-footer he holds some value and he is back-up wingman should Hunter get injured or is forced to take a few weeks away. 

He also could be given a chance in our rejigged midfield - something he has always craved and never been given an opportunity to play at St Kilda. And with Oliver potentially out, we may need another clever body in there.

Billings has great endurance and is hardly slow and we all know he's clever.

The question is whether his body can cope with the buffeting that come with AFL.

As I said, if we could get him on a two-year deal at around $400K a season, at worst he's a very handy depth replacement for Jordon and Harmes and at best, he's still got the smarts to be a topliner.

One last thing on him, I think his character is fine - he ain't a [censored] and he will help redress the balance of good, healthy and smart guys on our list.

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 3,881]

1 hour ago, Stretch Johnson said:

The Billings method probably will lead to less scoring opportunities in comparison to other methods.

...but a greater chance of a result!

[demoncat 642]

Looks like we could be in for another last day Tim Lamb special: https://x.com/tommorris32/status/1714391553035350298?s=46&t=uC9z4AjzfWvj5kf1WQ6J6g

[dazzledavey36 48,877]

15 hours ago, Deespicable said:

Unlike other posters, I actually think Billings would be a good get, provided his manager is realistic with his asking pric e and St Kilda don't want anything more than a future third rounder or this year's pick 42.

Being a left-footer he holds some value and he is back-up wingman should Hunter get injured or is forced to take a few weeks away. 

He also could be given a chance in our rejigged midfield - something he has always craved and never been given an opportunity to play at St Kilda. And with Oliver potentially out, we may need another clever body in there.

Billings has great endurance and is hardly slow and we all know he's clever.

The question is whether his body can cope with the buffeting that come with AFL.

As I said, if we could get him on a two-year deal at around $400K a season, at worst he's a very handy depth replacement for Jordon and Harmes and at best, he's still got the smarts to be a topliner.

One last thing on him, I think his character is fine - he ain't a [censored] and he will help redress the balance of good, healthy and smart guys on our list.

Nope, I'm with you on this mate. At his absolute best and when fit he could become one of the steals of this trade period.

I've always rated him and feel like his stalled development comes down to St Kilda's lack of ability to develope players over time.

25 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Looks like we could be in for another last day Tim Lamb special: https://x.com/tommorris32/status/1714391553035350298?s=46&t=uC9z4AjzfWvj5kf1WQ6J6g

Shrewed recruitment by the dees if we can get him across!

 

Edited October 17, 2023 by dazzledavey36

[mo64 5,209]

8 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Looks like we could be in for another last day Tim Lamb special: https://x.com/tommorris32/status/1714391553035350298?s=46&t=uC9z4AjzfWvj5kf1WQ6J6g

The post says "early days". Really? Do they want a time extension to get a trade done.

Lamb's last day specials haven't exactly been a success. Billings is no different to Grundy and Hunter. Coming off a poor season, and is probably going to be cheap as chips for a reason. 

I'd rather have some of our kids pushing for selection than Billings. Or we may as well kept Harmes.

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

Pretty sure he was a dees supporter growing up. 

Good omen!? 

[dazzledavey36 48,877]

1 minute ago, JimmyGadson said:

Pretty sure he was a dees supporter growing up. 

Good omen!? 

Essendon 

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,455]

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Essendon 

Bad omen

[dazzledavey36 48,877]

2 minutes ago, mo64 said:

The post says "early days". Really? Do they want a time extension to get a trade done.

Lamb's last day specials haven't exactly been a success. Billings is no different to Grundy and Hunter. Coming off a poor season, and is probably going to be cheap as chips for a reason. 

I'd rather have some of our kids pushing for selection than Billings. Or we may as well kept Harmes.

Billings is far better then Harmes.

You then say Lamb's last day haven't been successful? Short memory.. he recruited both Schache and Hunter on the last day of trade period last year.

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

1 minute ago, mo64 said:

The post says "early days". Really? Do they want a time extension to get a trade done.

Lamb's last day specials haven't exactly been a success. Billings is no different to Grundy and Hunter. Coming off a poor season, and is probably going to be cheap as chips for a reason. 

I'd rather have some of our kids pushing for selection than Billings. Or we may as well kept Harmes.

Maybe. 

Or maybe he'd be rejuvenated at a new club? 

Did anyone think Bobby Hill would reach the heights he did this year? 

Peter Wright going to Essendon.. Dunkley to Brisbane. 

I mean there are examples on both sides clearly but you've got to be in it to win it ey?

[Dee*ceiving 919]

28, has pace and some depth on his kicks. It's a yes from me particularly if exchanged for a pick we wouldn't use anyway. 

Averages close to 1 goal and 1 goal assist per game (although accuracy not good but he does take flying shots) 

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,455]

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

Billings is far better then Harmes.

You then say Lamb's last day haven't been successful? Short memory.. he recruited both Schache and Hunter on the last day of trade period last year.

Billings with a 3rd/4th rounder would be a better option than a kid at pick 50 I would think

[Demonstone 19,308]

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Screwed recruitment by the dees if we can get him across!

Disagree.  I'd say it was shrewd recruitment.

[titan_uranus 22,462]

Not against this provided we don’t pay anything meaningful by way of picks and assuming St Kilda carry some of his salary. 

[dazzledavey36 48,877]

4 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Disagree.  I'd say it was shrewd recruitment.

Haha.. definitely what I meant. 

[DubDee 20,772]

we need midfield. and sing depth so this would be a good get. Would add to out ball movement and kicking inside 50

[DubDee 20,772]

no doubt Saints will want a second round pick. 

maybe with a 3 round exchange in our favour

[mo64 5,209]

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Billings is far better then Harmes.

You then say Lamb's last day haven't been successful? Short memory.. he recruited both Schache and Hunter on the last day of trade period last year.

That's what I meant by not being successful. Hunter was ok this year but didn't really make us better. Schache. Enough said.

If Billings was 23, I'd be all in, but at 28 seems like his best is past him. And since we got McAdam, I don't think he addresses a need.

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 3,881]

7 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Billings with a 3rd/4th rounder would be a better option than a kid at pick 50 I would think

5 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Not against this provided we don’t pay anything meaningful by way of picks and assuming St Kilda carry some of his salary. 

Noting the article on Billings I posted, then bumped, earlier, these conditions and reasoning might make it OK.

[mo64 5,209]

12 minutes ago, Dee*ceiving said:

28, has pace and some depth on his kicks. It's a yes from me particularly if exchanged for a pick we wouldn't use anyway. 

Averages close to 1 goal and 1 goal assist per game (although accuracy not good but he does take flying shots) 

108 goals from 155 games is NOT close to a goal a game average, lol.