2023 Best and Fairest

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2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Was Grundy there?

No. 

[Wrecker46 2,733]

Serious question with all Goody's talk of culture and standards at the b&f are we all missing something hiding in plain sight because of the Oliver fiasco?

There is alot of mystery around Grundy's non selection in the QF.

Edited October 7, 2023 by Wrecker46
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I think there’s been enough hints and suggestions about him to give an idea of why it didn’t happen.

 

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2 hours ago, BW511 said:

I think there’s been enough hints and suggestions about him to give an idea of why it didn’t happen.

 

Which is what?

 

 

Edited October 7, 2023 by IRW

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25 minutes ago, IRW said:

Which is what?

 

 

Attitude reflects Altitude!

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6 hours ago, Wrecker46 said:

Serious question with all Goody's talk of culture and standards at the b&f are we all missing something hiding in plain sight because of the Oliver fiasco?

There is alot of mystery around Grundy's non selection in the QF.

With respect, Wrecker… if we’ve all learned anything from the past week, it’s that there is so much not known by us fans, therefore assumptions are made and rumours abound.

There’s reasons decisions are made by the Club, selectors, Goody, whomever, reasons of which most of us are unaware.

It’s natural to question or even oppose the non-selection of Grundy. But it’s not right to assume it was Goody’s choice to not select him. For all we know he might’ve made himself unavailable; IF THIS WAS THE CASE, the Club is hardly gonna come out and publicly announce it, right?!

[jnrmac 19,394]

Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere but has anyone seen a full list of the B&F? ie not just the top 10?

 

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On 10/7/2023 at 2:22 PM, praha said:

Anyone know why Kozzie wasn't there?

OMG the “gone to Port” rumours will be up and running soon. 

22 hours ago, Great Northern Summer said:

Yes, I'm being serious. That man bent over backwards for me personally with my sporting injuries. I fully believe he was not involved in the Essendon drugs saga. He's one of the most creditable people I've ever met. You wouldn't find anyone that knows him that would say otherwise.

GNS I agree that he was probably a great sports medicine practitioner and a lovely guy, but every health practitioner’s  primary responsibility according to AHPRA (and Hippocrates) is to each end every patient, and is morally if not legally required to tell his employer to get stuffed if he detects any hanky panky at all. 
Turning a blind eye is not an option.  
I am genuinely happy that he helped you, as he no doubt did for many others including Essendon players, but my point remains.  

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Maysie’s speech…

 

https://x.com/laceoutofficial/status/1710964514332832243?s=12

 

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Didn't he also say something at the end about seeing them [censored] lifting the cup 🤭

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59 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Didn't he also say something at the end about seeing them [censored] lifting the cup 🤭

It's well n truly out now 

[Jaded No More 59,538]

This is definitely not the right thing to put out there. But it’s also 100% correct. 

[P-man 13,285]

Maysie saying the quiet part out loud.

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6 hours ago, Hellaintabadplacetobe said:

It's well n truly out now 

May said at the start he probably had a few more drinks than he should have as he hadn't expected to be up there.

So his filter was probably a bit askew!  But we all loved it!

Reckon the 'we should have smoked them' will be on McCrae's white board next KB game.  It will go down in Dees vs Pies folklore like 'No duck no dinner'!!!

Langdon and May have rekindled the fierce rivalry of the 50's and 60's!!!  So bring on the next KB game - it should be a doozie!  Lets hope we land the first punch, euphemistically speaking.  Well, except for Maynard: some fierce tackling to make him earn each and every touch of the footy the 'old school way' will be in order!!!  Give him back some of his medicine dispensed on Langdon and Gus.

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I suspect I’m in the minority here but I don’t like May’s comments. 

I’d rather hear him acknowledge that we’re not as good as them. That we need to find another level, or go to work on our weaknesses, etc.

Yes he’d had a few and it was the B&F and I’m all for positivity and motivation, but if we were better than them we’d have won the flag. We didn’t, so we weren’t.

[deegirl 1,357]

Really wish May phrased this differently.   Difference between us and Collingwood is that they managed to win the close games when it mattered.  

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May was speaking to his tribe. that was the audience. i've no problem with the comments. Don't really care what the pies make of it. winners and grinners and they have the cup so why should they care a jot.

reckon the whole pin the comments/newspaper article to the wall old school motivational technique is overdone nowadays. you shouldn't be relying on emotional responses to get a team fired up. it has a place, but if you're not properly prepared and organised emotional drive ain't going to make a difference.

Roll on 24

 

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40 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I suspect I’m in the minority here but I don’t like May’s comments. 

I’d rather hear him acknowledge that we’re not as good as them. That we need to find another level, or go to work on our weaknesses, etc.

Yes he’d had a few and it was the B&F and I’m all for positivity and motivation, but if we were better than them we’d have won the flag. We didn’t, so we weren’t.

I didn't like the comments much because I don't agree with them.

We are not better than them. Maybe if the qualifying final was played on a Champion data spreadsheet, we were the better team, but the facts are we lost the game because Collingwood came out harder, focussed and were more ferocious at the contest in the first quarter. They also consolidated their lead in the so called premiership quarter with a 4 goal to 2 quarter.

We've lost to Collingwood 7 of the 9 last meetings.

Since round 1 2022, Collingwood have a 38-13 record compared to our 32-17, and have beaten us 3 out of 4 times.

I've been struggling all weekend to comprehend on what basis Melbourne is better than Collingwood like so many posters are claiming we are.

 

Edited October 8, 2023 by Bring-Back-Powell

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36 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I suspect I’m in the minority here but I don’t like May’s comments. 

I’d rather hear him acknowledge that we’re not as good as them. That we need to find another level, or go to work on our weaknesses, etc.

Yes he’d had a few and it was the B&F and I’m all for positivity and motivation, but if we were better than them we’d have won the flag. We didn’t, so we weren’t.

I’m with you.  Mays comments seem to reflect an attitude that we were unlucky, but the reality is we were not better than Collingwood. Half our game was bottom 4 level (the attacking part). The Pies defence was about equal with us.

Goals per inside 50, Pies ranked #2, MFC ranked #14

Shots per i50, Pies ranked #7, MFC ranked #14

Goals conceded from oppo i50s. Pies ranked #3, MFC ranked #5

Shots conceded per i50. Pies ranked #6, MFC ranked #2

And this isn’t even looking at why the Pies deliver when it matters in close games and we don’t.

“When all is said and done, a lot more is said than done”.

[brendan 3,421]

Should make for an interesting kings birthday, pies supporters have been triggered hard on social media, I don’t mind the comments players are too much like robots these days just say what you think 

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49 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I suspect I’m in the minority here but I don’t like May’s comments. 

I’d rather hear him acknowledge that we’re not as good as them. That we need to find another level, or go to work on our weaknesses, etc.

Yes he’d had a few and it was the B&F and I’m all for positivity and motivation, but if we were better than them we’d have won the flag. We didn’t, so we weren’t.

He was intoxicated so was a bit clumsy in the way he said things. Media as usual is on full assault mode as they look to sensationalize every waking minute of the offseason. My guess is this will all blow over by the time we play them in about 8 months. If the Pies want to hold onto it, good on them, but it will be wasted energy.

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We would have smoked the Pies, if we chose the right team and if Maynard didn’t take Brayshaw out.

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Frankly, I’m surprised that any Dees fan would have an issue with this.

He admitted he’d had more to drink than he would’ve had he known he’d be interviewed.

We all want honesty, right? Not the tired, worn-out clichés. We got that.

It was in the presence of the faithful at our own B&F. A gag-free environment, as it should be.

Maysie believes we’re better than Collingwood. That’s HIS opinion and he’s more than entitled to express it.

And finally, who gives a fat rat’s what *Collingwood thinks???

*A team that harbours malicious thugs and filthy sex offenders and had a cheer squad run by a registered child sex offender on their watch. You really value their take on what Maysie said?

 

 

 

 

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What did they serve for dinner at the B & F?  Was it all duck?

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15 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere but has anyone seen a full list of the B&F? ie not just the top 10?

 

Sorry. They only seem to publish to top 10. Maybe not to embarrass some.  Political? 
 

Leaderboard
602 - Christian Petracca 
527 - Jack Viney
456 - Jake Lever
453 - Angus Brayshaw
451 - Steven May
450 - Alex Neal-Bullen
444 - Kysaiah Pickett
426 - Max Gawn
424 - Judd McVee
416 - Trent Rivers  

Hunter was high in the voting then really dropped off. Bowey. Langdon. Salem. Spargo. All played majority of games so assume they were 11-15. Never know where they had Grundy.