Bates Mate 4,520 Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Seen more in the past 2 weeks than I have in the past 20 years mostly from Lachie Hunter but others getting involved. Is it a new clever tactic or just larising? . Came off a couple of times but soo bad when it dosen't 6 Quote
deegirl 1,598 Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Whatever they are they stress me out 3 1 Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,843 Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bates Mate said: Seen more in the past 2 weeks than I have in the past 20 years mostly from Lachie Hunter but others getting involved. Is it a new clever tactic or just larising? . Came off a couple of times but soo bad when it dosen't Lachie Hunter an absolute specialist at it, haven't seen him f one up yet. 95 percent off the grubber handballs we attenpt pay off aswell. 4 Quote
demosaw 1,155 Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 If it bounces out of bounds it is less likely to be paid against you as intentional. 2 Quote
chookrat 4,268 Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 39 minutes ago, Bates Mate said: Seen more in the past 2 weeks than I have in the past 20 years mostly from Lachie Hunter but others getting involved. Is it a new clever tactic or just larising? . Came off a couple of times but soo bad when it dosen't Larising has to be one of the best words in the english language. I quite like the grubber handball. 1 1 Quote
Demon Dynasty 17,169 Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 A number of Doggies used this to aplomb in their 2016 premiership year. Probably more about execution. Was ANB also using it tonight? Sparrow? Quote
adonski 13,307 Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Don't mind it. They seemed to usually work out okay. 3 Quote
Demonstone 23,644 Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 The only bad thing about them is the stupid name they've been given by the commentators. I don't think the bouncing handballs actually go under the ground. 8 1 4 Quote
Fanatique Demon 2,764 Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Demonstone said: The only bad thing about them is the stupid name they've been given by the commentators. I don't think the bouncing handballs actually go under the ground. Right. Otherwise, the stat for gathering an “underground handball” would be an “underground ball get”. 2 Quote
The heart beats true 18,201 Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 I don’t mind it from the wingers when it’s boundary side. Seems like a low risk attempt at keeping the ball moving. At least we can’t be accused of not trying to evolve with the game. Sometimes it’s hard to notice in game, when I’m too busy abusing the umpires and fretting about the scoreboard. Credit to the coaching department for trying new things. Quote
Fanatique Demon 2,764 Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 I really like the bounce handball. And Hunter is really good at it. When the opposition is closing down the ball carrier, he can’t handball through him. So it’s over, under or around. Over is very risky because in getting it high enough, it takes so long to come back down that the recipient will get crunched. We used to call them “hospital handballs”, remember? Going around the opponent is often hampered by the boundary line on one side and other closing opponents on the other. Vive le handball de rebond. (Hey, @Demonstone I found the new name.) 3 1 1 Quote
Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,691 Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 9 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said: A number of Doggies used this to aplomb in their 2016 premiership year. Probably more about execution. Was ANB also using it tonight? Sparrow? 'My boy' JMcV, I think? I like 'em. Get to the receiver quickly, and with 'easily' created end-over-end bounce they seem relatively easy to gather. 1 1 Quote
durango 2,024 Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 I guess it has origins in basketball where the bounce pass was used regularly. 2 Quote
Rocknroll 1,010 Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 Other thing is if you throw afoot at it skiing the boundary you have a high percentage to kick out on the full. 2 Quote
Demon Dynasty 17,169 Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 57 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said: 'My boy' JMcV, I think? I like 'em. Get to the receiver quickly, and with 'easily' created end-over-end bounce they seem relatively easy to gather. Sounds good to me TR.... im all in as long as the user has got it down pat Quote
Demon Dynasty 17,169 Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Demonstone said: The only bad thing about them is the stupid name they've been given by the commentators. I don't think the bouncing handballs actually go under the ground. Think again DS Doc's explanation of time travel in "Back to the Future" tells us that the "underground" handball is not only plausible but may well transcend time and stop the game for a nano second, thereby confusing oncoming opponent and providing receiver with more time to assess and gather... Edited April 25, 2023 by Demon Dynasty 4 1 Quote
daisycutter 30,027 Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 so, are passe "normal" handballs now to called "above ground handballs"? asking for a friend 1 Quote
Redleg 42,195 Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, daisycutter said: so, are passe "normal" handballs now to called "above ground handballs"? asking for a friend Your friend is very inquisitive. Quote
old dee 24,093 Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Demonstone said: The only bad thing about them is the stupid name they've been given by the commentators. I don't think the bouncing handballs actually go under the ground. Up to there usual quality Demonstone! Quote
old dee 24,093 Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, daisycutter said: so, are passe "normal" handballs now to called "above ground handballs"? asking for a friend Ask Brian dc! Quote
DeeSpencer 26,716 Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 Great when they work, no so when they don’t. Handy way of avoiding extreme pressure. Still room for more cohesive tapping of the ball on especially up forward. Hunter’s smarts and bag of tricks is handy but it’s also a reflection that he can’t break the lines at all any more. Could only find room for 6 kicks last night and most weren’t effective. Quote
Bates Mate 4,520 Posted April 30, 2023 Author Posted April 30, 2023 Hunter added the underground kick to the mix along with another 3-4 handballs last night. Came off thankfully. Quote
Webber 10,650 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/25/2023 at 11:55 AM, DeeSpencer said: Great when they work, no so when they don’t. Handy way of avoiding extreme pressure. Still room for more cohesive tapping of the ball on especially up forward. Hunter’s smarts and bag of tricks is handy but it’s also a reflection that he can’t break the lines at all any more. Could only find room for 6 kicks last night and most weren’t effective. He never broke the lines, was always an accumulator on connection and smart play-maker. Still is. Most of those 6 kicks last night WERE effective. And the sun still rises in the east. 1 Quote
Deemania since 56 6,814 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 11:27 PM, YesitwasaWin4theAges said: Lachie Hunter an absolute specialist at it, haven't seen him f one up yet. 95 percent off the grubber handballs we attenpt pay off aswell. Hunter is an exclusive specialist - the effective vibe hasn't really reached the others yet. Whereas Clarrie is the dive-handball specialist off the carpet and that one completes him as a very hungry ball-magnet in the thick of things. Quote
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