Trade Rumours 2023

[mo64 5,480]

I gather that some people don't watch Eagles games. Darling is cooked, but let's pay him $800k for 2 years, and trade JVR.

[Deeoldfart 7,993]

26 minutes ago, Gator said:

From a newspaper today over in the West:

Jack Darling: West Coast Eagles forward on trade table as part of potential North Melbourne No.1 pick deal

West Coast has made veteran forward Jack Darling available for trade if it helps the Eagles turn pick one into a life raft of early draft selections.

As North Melbourne, Melbourne and Hawthorn clamber to entice the Eagles to part with the coveted first selection in the November 20 AFL national draft.

The West Australian understands Darling is on the table, but only at the right price.

Complicating the matter is the 31-year-old has a young family and does not want to leave Perth.

The Eagles’ premiership player also has two years remaining on a five-year contract, worth about $800,000 per season, which will also come into salary cap calculations in any negotiations.

The Kangaroos have already shown interest and insiders suggest Melbourne would also be willing to take on Darling to help solve its forward line riddle.

The Demons, Kangaroos and Hawks are desperate to gain the No. 1 pick so they can draft gun Victorian youngster Harley Reid.

North Melbourne added pick 3 to 2, 3, 15, 17, 18, 57, and 65 to its suite after Ben McKay’s free agency move to Essendon.

It gives the Roos the whip hand to package up a deal, which is where Darling may come into play.

The Kangaroos have already made an offer of picks 15, 18, 21, and a future end-of-first-round for No. 1 — an ambit claim that was quickly rejected by the Eagles – with stronger offers expected to come in the last three days of the AFL’s Trade Period which winds up on Wednesday.

Darling could be an ideal addition to the North Melbourne attack alongside Nick Larkey as the Kangaroos look to add experience and depth to the forward line.

But Melbourne is also poised for a play at Reid and entered the bidding war when it secured pick 11 from Gold Coast to No. 6 which it landed via Fremantle last year in the Luke Jackson deal.

The Demons have picks 6, 11, 42, and 47 at their disposal and view a player with Darling’s experience as crucial with their premiership window open.

The Demons have struggled to kick winning scores this season with key targets Ben Brown and Tom McDonald missing large chunks and forcing them to park Brodie Grundy and Max Gawn in the forward 50. Jake Melksham is also out for 12 months with an ACL and Grundy has now joined Sydney.

Harrison Petty has knocked back an offer to move to Adelaide, but may look at it again at the end of next season.

West Australian Demon Jacob van Rooyen is contracted til the end of 2025 and is seen as a key part of Melbourne’s future plans, but might be expendable if Reid is the reward.

An offer of six, 11 and van Rooyen would be hard for the Eagles to turn down, unless the Roos slap down a trump hand.

Hawthorn is not considered in play for Darling as it chases Mabior Chol from Gold Coast and is in negotiations with Brisbane for premiership player Jack Gunston to return to the club.

The Eagles are also keen on pick two or three so they can secure one of their prime draft targets, Claremont defender Daniel Curtin.

Apart from Darling’s reluctance to move, the Eagles are also keen to hang on to experience, following the retirement of veterans Luke Shuey, Shannon Hurn and Nic Naitanui.

Darling was firm in his belief he wanted to remain a one-club player when he re-signed in 2019.

“I grew up supporting the Eagles, so to be here for my entire career is something I’ll look back on proudly,” Darling told the West Coast website.

“I always thought I was going to be a one-club player. I’m just really excited that the club has backed me in like they have my whole career.”

Darling has played 277 games, including 20 this season.

He sits on 510 goals and 265 behinds over his AFL career, third on the Eagles’ all-time list behind Josh Kennedy (712) and needs only another four to equal Peter Sumich in second position.

Darling’s 26 goals in 2023 was his lowest tally since his debut season in 2011.

Seems like the WA newspaper gets its footy news ‘scoops’ from Demonland.

[DaveyJones'sLocker 641]

Gonna be hard to get it done for pick 1 without losing someone in our best 22. But 6, 11 and JVR is such a high price, no from me. 

 

[Mickey 4,469]

11 minutes ago, DaveyJones'sLocker said:

Gonna be hard to get it done for pick 1 without losing someone in our best 22. But 6, 11 and JVR is such a high price, no from me. 

 

JvR was a first round pick 2 years ago, and has developed well since then. No way would I be trading anywhere near that. He'll be a 200 gamer for them.

JvR and 11 at the most. Not pick 6 as well

[loges 6,767]

29 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

How bad is the Weagles list management if he is contracted for another two years at 800k?

He's done. Has been for two seasons.

Is Darling actually cooked or is it a result of them being so poor?

[Tarax Club 3,744]

 

Meanwhile in a parallel universe Ben Tom and Jack saddle up for a great season at Casey.

[samcantstandya 1,031]

28 minutes ago, mo64 said:

I gather that some people don't watch Eagles games. Darling is cooked, but let's pay him $800k for 2 years, and trade JVR.

Not a good move, it'd be like moving from the Bellarine to move to the Nullabor. No surf there.

[manny100 1,387]

Can someone please confirm our current pick holding for 2023:

5,11,39 (received for JJ), 81 (to pick Kynan Brown). 

Not sure whether i am correct on above.

[OutOfTheCentre21 179]

12 minutes ago, manny100 said:

Can someone please confirm our current pick holding for 2023:

5,11,39 (received for JJ), 81 (to pick Kynan Brown). 

Not sure whether i am correct on above.

6, 11, 42 and 93 I believe based on the website below. Hard to keep track!!! 

https://www.draftguru.com.au/years/2023/provisional-draft-order

Edited October 14, 2023 by OutOfTheCentre21
Updated website

[Gawndy the Great 9,009]

To me Darling changes our F2 to F1 with 6,11 on the table. That’s it- take it or leave it 

[Fat Tony 5,072]

At $800k, Darling holds negative trade value. 

[adonski 10,805]

You couldn't even guarantee Darling would have better output than T Mac next year 

[Redleg 40,064]

14 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

At $800k, Darling holds negative trade value. 

As a WA player with an apparently young family, he is staying and getting his money from the Eagles.

This is a salary dump being added to the already high price for 1, but the player imo will refuse to be part of it and why should he, when he can stay home and be paid a fortune for the next 2 years.

Edited October 14, 2023 by Redleg

[H_T 3,032]

2 hours ago, mo64 said:

JVR isn't KPF depth. He was essentially our no.1 KPF this year in his 1st season of AFL, and had to take on ruck duties later in the year. Naturally he tired, and his performance suffered.

As for the astute appraisal, what are the main avenues to goal for the likes of Lynch, Hawkins, King brothers. Larkey, Mitch Lewis, Marshall? I don't see them as goal poachers.

And how does our forward structure look if Ben King doesn't become available next year? 

With the long term contract signed by  Naughton at the Dogs, where would that leave natural KF Ugle Hagan in their forward set-up? They already have Bruce, Darcy, Lobb .. they have surplus. 
I know we have Jefferson in the wings, but if we’re seeking a young KF who has many strings to their bow, Ugle Hagan would be ideal to prise away at a cost. But the benefits would be huge.

[djr 1,313]

I believe we won't be able to outbid NM for P1 without offering a top 22 player. As much as it is painful to consider losing one of our top line youngsters, are we willing to do it if it means getting, and IF JT believes, a once-in-a-generation player? If so who would you trade that WC would find appealing? The draft picks can work itself out. 

[dazzledavey36 52,728]

 

[Lord Travis 10,457]

34 minutes ago, H_T said:

With the long term contract signed by  Naughton at the Dogs, where would that leave natural KF Ugle Hagan in their forward set-up? They already have Bruce, Darcy, Lobb .. they have surplus. 
I know we have Jefferson in the wings, but if we’re seeking a young KF who has many strings to their bow, Ugle Hagan would be ideal to prise away at a cost. But the benefits would be huge.

Bruce retired didn't he?

Darcy will be a KPD. They'll build around Naughton and JUH with Lobby as depth for a year or two more.

[demoniac 1,295]

5 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Bruce retired didn't he?

Darcy will be a KPD. They'll build around Naughton and JUH with Lobby as depth for a year or two more.

The issue for the dogs will be how many max contracts can they allocate to their forward line without impacting player retention in midfield and defence? And if JUH is offered a contract much higher than what they can offer will he stay?

[Bates Mate 4,422]

21 hours ago, Beetle said:

Club did everything they possibly could to try and get Tom Lynch this trade period and Richmond wouldn’t bite.

Good. Isn't the answer he's been injury prone and looked past it whenever on they park

[Jaded No More 67,627]

We are not going to trade JVR anymore than we are going to trade Petty. Not for pick one not for anything. Not unless they come out and demand a trade. 
 

[BDA 22,255]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned trading Petracca yet. We seem to have considered trading everyone else this week.

[Vineytime 836]

[picket fence 16,648]

2 hours ago, DaveyJones'sLocker said:

Gonna be hard to get it done for pick 1 without losing someone in our best 22. But 6, 11 and JVR is such a high price, no from me. 

 

Anyone here unhappy to see Chandler as part of this?

[Demons11 6,704]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Media spin.

WC have told all clubs that the majority of their players are up for trade at the right price 

[djr 1,313]

8 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Anyone here unhappy to see Chandler as part of this?

They have already said no to Ginniven so I assume they would not be interested in Chandler.