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[spirit of norm smith 16,570]

He’s gone from being the Dees “most likely” (young key forward) (in Knightmare phantom drafts) to “please JT, do not consider”.  Given our recent draft recruitment of young key forwards has been generally unfulfilling.   

[dazzledavey36 55,314]

1 minute ago, spirit of norm smith said:

He’s gone from being the Dees “most likely” (young key forward) (in Knightmare phantom drafts) to “please JT, do not consider”.  Given our recent draft recruitment of young key forwards has been generally unfulfilling.   

If our recruiting team continue on with this mindset then why bother ever drafting a key forward again?

Gotta back JT's team in that eventually we'll actually recruit a future key forward who'll go and play a 10 year career for the Dees.

Remember it also comes down to our development and coaching team. At the end of the day it's up to them to develop the player. The recruitment team just picks them.

I'm personally not a fan of Jefferson myself but that shouldn't stop us looking at other options like a Phoenix Foster or Harry Lemmey who I rate much the Jefferson. 

[Grouse 192]

 

Compare his highlights to phillipou. I agree that Jefferson looks a long way off. Phillipou looks much more robust. I'd be trading up to make sure we get him. Contested marking and kicking them from 55. 

[Mach5 4,768]

Neat kick & good hands... all icing, no cake?

[Superunknown 4,223]

On 10/5/2022 at 10:56 AM, monoccular said:

But beware - his American great great great grandfather’s brother’s second cousin  may have owned slaves which means he should be cancelled.  

Seek help

[Demons1858 1,766]

We need more mature support alongside JVR in his first few years. If tmac or BBB dont come up we absolutely need to pick up one of around 4 or 5 good KPPs that are free agents next year. Another junior burger doesnt help us while we are contending now

[monoccular 17,570]

7 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

We need more mature support alongside JVR in his first few years. If tmac or BBB dont come up we absolutely need to pick up one of around 4 or 5 good KPPs that are free agents next year. Another junior burger doesnt help us while we are contending now

Sure but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t be looking for another developing “junior burger”, as you put it, in the draft. 

[Nascent 9,280]

Highlights from a player some have around our part of the draft.

First minute is from his 7 goal game vs WA.

[BC_1718_DC 1,354]

Didn’t know Melbourne had so many recruiters that weren’t actually employed by the club going off this thread 😂😂

[Ugottobekidding 1,192]

19 hours ago, 12345_54321 said:

Didn’t know Melbourne had so many recruiters that weren’t actually employed by the club going off this thread 😂😂

They are all experts...

[Demonstone 22,792]

It's a footy fan forum.  People are going to post their opinions and thoughts.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,408]

On 11/5/2022 at 6:54 AM, Nascent said:

Highlights from a player some have around our part of the draft.

First minute is from his 7 goal game vs WA.

What have I missed, in that highlights package he looks good. I read earlier in the thread he avoids the contest but he seems to take plenty of contested marks, also kicking them from various angles.

[adonski 12,414]

2 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

What have I missed, in that highlights package he looks good. I read earlier in the thread he avoids the contest but he seems to take plenty of contested marks, also kicking them from various angles.

He looks a bit laconic in general play but brave in the air 

[Demonstone 22,792]

47 minutes ago, adonski said:

He looks a bit laconic in general play but brave in the air 

One of those words that mean something completely different to what many people incorrectly assume.

Laconic definition:  Using as few words as possible; pithy and concise. The definition of laconic refers to someone who doesn't talk a lot or uses very few words. 

[adonski 12,414]

10 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

One of those words that mean something completely different to what many people incorrectly assume.

Laconic definition:  Using as few words as possible; pithy and concise. The definition of laconic refers to someone who doesn't talk a lot or uses very few words. 

I'll have to adjust my draft rankings 

[The Great Pretender 473]

On 10/28/2022 at 9:08 AM, dazzledavey36 said:

If our recruiting team continue on with this mindset then why bother ever drafting a key forward again?

Gotta back JT's team in that eventually we'll actually recruit a future key forward who'll go and play a 10 year career for the Dees.

Remember it also comes down to our development and coaching team. At the end of the day it's up to them to develop the player. The recruitment team just picks them.

I'm personally not a fan of Jefferson myself but that shouldn't stop us looking at other options like a Phoenix Foster or Harry Lemmey who I rate much the Jefferson. 

There has to be something in the Harry Lemmey story that we don’t know about. Touted as a top five pick before the season started and now outside everyone’s top 40. 

[Salems Lot 2,621]

Lackadaisicle perhaps

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,233]

5 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

What have I missed, in that highlights package he looks good. I read earlier in the thread he avoids the contest but he seems to take plenty of contested marks, also kicking them from various angles.

Takes most of his marks clean and on the reach but not many if under any form of body pressure. Does not mean he cant but nothing that I see there would give me confidence in his body on body work. 

[adonski 12,414]

6 minutes ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Takes most of his marks clean and on the reach but not many if under any form of body pressure. Does not mean he cant but nothing that I see there would give me confidence in his body on body work. 

Has no issue jumping on blokes backs 

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3 hours ago, Salems Lot said:

Lackadaisicle perhaps

Better still, lackadaisical. 😉

[Docs Demons 1,792]

On 10/28/2022 at 9:00 AM, spirit of norm smith said:

He’s gone from being the Dees “most likely” (young key forward) (in Knightmare phantom drafts) to “please JT, do not consider”.  Given our recent draft recruitment of young key forwards has been generally unfulfilling.   

A recent draft recruit by the initials of JVR might be OK and better than unfulfilling.

[jnrmac 20,154]

Big Pass, nothing in those highlights says he is got the mongrel to be a player.

[Axis of Bob 11,839]

38 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Big Pass, nothing in those highlights says he is got the mongrel to be a player.

You're ruling him out as a player based on 2 minutes of loosely brought together junior highlights?

[58er 6,538]

On 10/28/2022 at 11:49 AM, Grouse said:

 

Compare his highlights to phillipou. I agree that Jefferson looks a long way off. Phillipou looks much more robust. I'd be trading up to make sure we get him. Contested marking and kicking them from 55. 

Easier trading up than said. 

[58er 6,538]

1 hour ago, Docs Demons said:

A recent draft recruit by the initials of JVR might be OK and better than unfulfilling.

Yes Docs  some D/Lers have got very short memories OR selective choice overruling the JT record for recruitment.

Yes Weid was not  tick but Jesse was largely successful. 

JVR is being willed as our next best forward yet JT can't be trusted to select the next best option available!!

Strange bedfellows some D/Lers. Of course we are all experts and we want a finished product hot off the draft ! No Casey training and improvement or Choco kicking school. Must just about kill his opposition and kick 55m both feet  .  Oh and no West Australians please they miss the family dog too much. 

Again JT we trust in the draft and often up trading in selections for our benefit.